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Old 2012-07-27, 21:15   Link #3261
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Out of boredom I tried playing again and found a 1300~dps 2 hander (why did it have to be 2 handed) with 140 str/vit. Just for lulz, I put it on my enchantress and her dps went from like 3800 to 4700. For some reason, that's enough to kill crap in Act 1 Inferno and she can actually kill elite packs on her own, unless she is noob and stands in a pool. She also has about 50k health so she can take a hit or two.

I should put in mystic ally and let them do the killing.
Edit: Just watched them kill Butcher.
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Old 2012-07-28, 18:41   Link #3262
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Now that I have a full set of gold find gear, I can finally make money doing Butcher runs from the Manor level. The inevitable deaths against supers are balanced by the gold drops on the way. I just wish the chests aren't a waste of time.
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Old 2012-07-28, 19:54   Link #3263
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Have you geared up your follower? Enchantress can greatly increase your survivability and it really doesn't cost that much to gear her up. (aim for 850ish dps 2 handers with good stats). Spend a few hundred k gold, and she can take monsters on her own with some support from you.

After I sold all my main gear on the RMAH, I was left with random crap in my stash and her, and she proved extremely useful in getting some gold back to buy some stuff to easily toast act 1 with. A brief while I was only doing 9k dps, but she was outpacing me with the aoe!

It's nothing special; just 13k dps 730 res all, 35k hp, with 110% gold find but I built that up from basically scratch and the last 50k gold that went unsold. Doesn't die til she hits the tougher guys in act 2 but act 1 is so much faster.
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Old 2012-07-28, 20:12   Link #3264
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Now that I have a full set of gold find gear, I can finally make money doing Butcher runs from the Manor level. The inevitable deaths against supers are balanced by the gold drops on the way. I just wish the chests aren't a waste of time.
So that's why you spent 5mil on Gold Find gear...You know, you could have spent under 50k and done Nightmare Act III (core of arreat quest) runs instead. It's not only more profitable, but you will never die and have to fork over gold for durability loss, either.

I was averaging 80k every 15minutes doing that.
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Old 2012-07-28, 20:13   Link #3265
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I use a Templar because he can use a shield that can have extra gold find. I don't have trouble killing things, and the extra healing helps when I kite with my wizard.

Still haven't mastered killing the butcher though. Still die to him once or twice.
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Old 2012-07-28, 22:04   Link #3266
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You have to not die in Act 1 period bar extreme negligence or lag if you want effective farming. Each death is like ~2-3% of your earnings, after all.

The thing about Templar is that monsters don't target followers enough. It's really hard to beat a 15% armor boost and 15% defense debuff on enemies.

If you want to stick with templar, eschew the healing (It doesn't do much anyways) and turn him into a suicide warrior with the intervention skills. You will die less.

To defeat the butcher; never face him directly or move to or away from him in a straight line; match his movements in a perpendicular fashion. This way if you get hit by the chains, his charge attack will never hit you, he'll be dizzy and you can shoot at him for a long while.

Also, for running Act 1, I recommend starting via Cursed Hold, jumping into the Festering Woods, and entering those 2 places (guaranteed elites). Run straight for them unless another elite pack blocks your way. Once you get that, try the cemetery and Highlands Passage which tend to contain elites. If you find Cave of the Moon Clan in the highlands, they are chock full of elites. Once done with those, you can easily have 5 stacks and run to the jailer, and Butcher will be there waiting for you still.

I don't know; I don't like the first level of Halls of Agony, for whatever reason. The reason for doing this is that act bosses have been rather nerfed and all the good stuff is concentrated on elites, so it's more important to have 5 valors running asap and killing crap than to kill the Butcher.
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Old 2012-07-28, 22:51   Link #3267
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See, the thing with gold farming, is that the elites are not my main source of income; I actually earn most of my gold from normal monsters after getting the 5 valour. So I am not sure rushing for elites and boss kills is useful for my setup. It would probably work better that way if I was wearing magic find gear instead.
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Old 2012-07-29, 22:25   Link #3268
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NV also boosts your gold find though. Getting 5 stacks asap is always optimal.
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Old 2012-07-29, 23:29   Link #3269
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Hmm, I'm finding my solo build for my Daemonhunter isn't quite working out so well whenever I join my barbarian friend for Act 2 farming. While I can kill things faster than he can (25k DPS unmodded/unbuffed), the monsters can also kill ME just as quick. No One With Everything shenanigans after all.

I swapped out Sentry with Caltrops, and I've found that with stacking caltrops I can actually tank many of the white mobs in the act. When we run into any of the blues though, uhm, well lets say that I've been hemmoraging gold for the past few days as a result, ahaha. With my low Discipline (I only have the base 30) I can't cast caltrops fast enough to save my hide.
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Old 2012-07-29, 23:41   Link #3270
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I give up, every damn party I join i get silent morons that don't share loot, leave after one death from a elite group or cant even play their class right.

I Asked this barbarian if he'd like this nice gold belt that had a lot of strength and vit. he said yes and i inspect him 5mins later, he's not wearing it. Turns out he just savaged it...... /facepalm
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Old 2012-07-30, 01:04   Link #3271
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Anyone wants to play with me?
Playing solo is kind of boring and I don't want to join the Public Games.
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Old 2012-07-30, 06:19   Link #3272
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Two days ago i sold a hand crossbow for 7 million gold, my first multi million gold sale. Was so happy. (780 dps with 830 life on hit and a socket, found in inferno act 1)
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Old 2012-07-30, 08:51   Link #3273
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Two days ago i sold a hand crossbow for 7 million gold, my first multi million gold sale. Was so happy. (780 dps with 830 life on hit and a socket, found in inferno act 1)
But now all the decent items need 10million gold or more now. Inflation is out of control. And those with money are buying up affordable items and re-listing them at ten times the price. A pair of pants I lost the bid to because I wasn't online, was sold for 500,000. It is now listed for 22million.
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Old 2012-07-30, 09:09   Link #3274
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Yeah, the prices are getting out of control now. On one end, there's the people like me who are struggling to get rid of stuff, that we have to sell them on discount. On the other end, are the folk who are posting things where the BUYOUT PRICE is 150 BILLION.
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Old 2012-07-30, 09:13   Link #3275
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No, people can't buy stuffs with normal price then sell it with much higher price. They can only buy something cheap then sell it at its true value.
And the ones who control the price are not the sellers but the buyers. If there are many people want an item and willing to pay for it then of course the price will go up.
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Old 2012-07-30, 10:44   Link #3276
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It's way easier to find decent item on AH currently anyway. With so many suppliers, you can hardly sell anything higher than its worth price, and I don't think you can be scammed when with only 50k golds, you can find a decent weapon for act 2 Inferno.

Btw, thing that is listed more than 1 billion usually just for show, and no one buy them. I follow several item until their expired time, and I believe it's still stuck there without anyone bother, so don't let the buyout price deceive you.
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Old 2012-07-31, 17:01   Link #3277
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You can get good 800ish dps weapons for 2-3 million now; I think it would be easier tbh.

Also, they should have a browser version of the AH. Imagine people doing that shit on their phones.
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Old 2012-07-31, 18:45   Link #3278
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I think I am bored enough now to try a Throw Weapon barb.

Still waiting for the Summon fix for WD...
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Old 2012-08-01, 09:53   Link #3279
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Summons are fine in inferno but you have to really gear specifically for them since pets share your defense stats. Life regen and fierce loyalty really helps. I'm playing wizard now at the moment but i have beaten act 1 with wd and pets and others have done later acts. Wd is getting pets buffed still, so that's nice.
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Old 2012-08-01, 14:23   Link #3280
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Funny i havent seen a witch doctor for 30 public games
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