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Old 2014-03-29, 17:51   Link #3781
Mr Hat and Clogs
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Maltheal's fight was awesome. Urzeal, however, was boring as shit - and took way to long.
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Old 2014-03-29, 19:59   Link #3782
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It's nice to get a melee tank type character that doesn't suffer the barbarian's weakness of generally going into fights with an empty mana pool. Also has an interesting mix of pure melee with mid-to-long range attacks.

I'm still working my crusader up through the first four acts, but I'll see how act five is when I get there. I am a bit disappointed that there was only a single new character class in this expansion. Surely they aren't all out of ideas?
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Old 2014-03-29, 20:03   Link #3783
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It's nice to get a melee tank type character that doesn't suffer the barbarian's weakness of generally going into fights with an empty mana pool. Also has an interesting mix of pure melee with mid-to-long range attacks.

I'm still working my crusader up through the first four acts, but I'll see how act five is when I get there. I am a bit disappointed that there was only a single new character class in this expansion. Surely they aren't all out of ideas?
As I said earlier, the main suspicion is that they intend to have a second expansion, so only release one character for now.
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Old 2014-03-29, 20:31   Link #3784
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It felt like they took a long time for one expansion if they're planning another, but maybe I've gotten used to DLC release rates, and forgotten how long it takes for expansions to come out. They do seem to have done a good job of fitting the crusader into the game as if it was a character class that had been there the whole time, with individual dialogue and comments and the like at all the appropriate times when other characters have them, and different dialogue from other people sometimes, depending on what the crusader says.
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Old 2014-03-29, 20:42   Link #3785
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I don't have RoS yet, but as far as the characters go I don't care. I wanted a knight-type melee class that wasn't black, and RoS delivered. I'm happy.
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Old 2014-03-29, 21:11   Link #3786
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I don't have RoS yet, but as far as the characters go I don't care. I wanted a knight-type melee class that wasn't black, and RoS delivered. I'm happy.
In most games it is nearly impossible to see the skin colour or indeed, any other kind of genetic features, after you give them full body armour. So I am not sure how it matters.
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Old 2014-03-29, 21:32   Link #3787
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Remember folks, in order to actually see if the two-handed weapon (that the crusader can use in one hand with a passive skill) is better than your one-hander, you need to actually select the passive skill in question, otherwise the comparison will be for you wielding it in two hands, and you won't see the bonuses from your shield. It may sound obvious, but I was thinking "oh, I'll switch to that passive when I find a two-hander that's actually worth using" without bothering to actually think it through any further than that, so of course all the two-handers looked worse than my one-handers.
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Old 2014-03-29, 23:31   Link #3788
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I'm pissed I couldn't get my revenge on Adria.
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Old 2014-03-29, 23:40   Link #3789
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Yeah, the Crusader is pretty awesome. So damn tanky, I love the hell out of Falling Sword though, my god. I have the most stun happy build though. Slash 25% chance to stun glyph, Sweep Attack 50% chance to stun glyph, Falling Sword 100% chance to stun glyph, Shield Glare aoe blind... Lastly, Consecrate... incase I do actually get hit and need a heal.


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I'm pissed I couldn't get my revenge on Adria.
Er, you do?
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Old 2014-03-30, 05:58   Link #3790
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I got a slow 2hander + shield setup currently going at Torment I with my crusader. It's pretty much a breeze right now but going forward into higher torment level i can see it hit a wall since amount blocked doesn't scale at all and doesn't work on a lot of ground based AoE.

I'm using
Punish + Roar for AoE dmg on block
Blessed Shield + Divine Aegis to get a bit more armor and life regen

Condemn + Eternal Retaliation = free 1160% dmg that can potentially have zero CD if i can hit 15 target
Judgement + Resolved = +80% crit chance and immobilize to help keep my target near me for condemn
Falling Sword + Rapid Descent = i can initiate quickly and gtfo earlier if thing goes south
Law of Justice + Bravery = resist aura + CC break on activate

Trait wise i got
Heavenly Strength for 2h +shield
Renewal for heal on block
Hold your ground for 15% block
Divine Fortress for +% armor based on block

The idea behind this build is to utilize the higher dmg of 2h instead of dps and bypass the speed issue with abilities that isn't affected by my weapon speed or wrath generation.

Basically I just wade into the enemies and watch them kill themselves on my block. 1 v 1 is really slow but that's not a problem since the most dangerous time is during the start when there's a group of elites tossing tons of special abilities at me and blocking my escape path.
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Old 2014-03-30, 06:23   Link #3791
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My Crusader is still very young and in Act 1, but I've found myself happy with mostly Punish and Sweep Attack. The side effect of Punish keeps me unharmed most of the time and Sweep Attack clears the path against enemy groups. Shield Glare from time to time, but stuff like Taunt and Iron Skin? For solo play rather unnecessary on Normal. I admit, though, that Blessed Hammer is also very nice and its memory of D2's Hammerdin . For some reason, Malthael was somehow easier on my Monk than on my Wizard (both on Normal) and I can't recall that there was a major sheet DPS gap between them (as both had around 100k).
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Old 2014-03-30, 06:58   Link #3792
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My Crusader is still very young and in Act 1, but I've found myself happy with mostly Punish and Sweep Attack. The side effect of Punish keeps me unharmed most of the time and Sweep Attack clears the path against enemy groups. Shield Glare from time to time, but stuff like Taunt and Iron Skin? For solo play rather unnecessary on Normal.
You'll find (or I found) Iron Skin to be more useful as time goes on. Works well in combination with Condemn+Vaccuum rune, for instance, but also helps in certain mobs and certain boss fights. Just a useful all around tool for a tank to have. Of course, I've stopped using Punish in favor of the group damage effect of Slash, so maybe the difference is significant.
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Old 2014-03-31, 13:36   Link #3793
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I just started playing this weekend a friend from my Guild in GW2 got me a code . So far I love it I'm playing Wizard and its awesome currently at lvl 24 and I just spent all my money leveling up my blacksmith. Hopefully this game will keep me occupied till DS2 for PC gets released. I also will be buying the expansion pack on Friday, so let me get some names so I can play with some of you guys :3 .
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Old 2014-03-31, 13:48   Link #3794
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Arrow

Finally decided to give the game another try, and I got to say... the Crusader is mighty fine. An actual tanking character.

The much improved loot helps too... doesn't feel like I'm grinding for scraps any more. The absence of the AH also makes it much more easy-going, without having to constantly worry about grinding out enough gold to buy better gear.

Also, shield throwing is awesome. I fully expect to see all manner of "Steve Rogers" in public games.

Cheers.
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Old 2014-03-31, 14:31   Link #3795
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I am tempted to try RoS, since I have heard a lot of good things about it.

Although my ARPG mood has more or less been oversaturated after the paragon grind in D3 and then recently starting Path of Exile... I wouldn't even have touched that PoE a few others I know started the game.

Even with that, somewhere in my mind that I refuse to acknowledge... RoS is calling out to me... I probably at the very least want to try the crusader and do the new Act to find out more about the story (which as I have read isnt all too satisfying).

le sigh.
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Old 2014-03-31, 14:53   Link #3796
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Is it "Lord of Destruction" level improvements though?
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:48   Link #3797
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I'm not a hardcore diablo 2 player but i have played PoE and Torchlight 2. Here's what i think about the features in the expansion.

Crusader class
Plays like a paladin from D2 and WoW. There's a lot of option in play variety with skill and rune set that lets you specialize in melee or range and a lot of focus in AoE dmg. I leveled with a range spec and now i m up to torment 3 using a melee tanking spec. It does need some balancing to bring on par with all other classes but it does have a unique play style that's fresh to play with.

Adventure Mode
This mode flags 5 quest in each act for you to complete and gives you Rift fragment and blood shards when you finish each set in the specific act. It encourages player to move around more instead of just farming a specific zone. Blood shards are just currency for you to gamble for more items ( ala Gheed in D2 but not using gold) while Rift fragment opens up a randomized dungeon for you to tackle.

Nephalem Rift dungeons is built with all the different tileset and with randomized monsters and a random boss mob at the end of it. To spawn the boss, you need to kill enough monsters in the Rift.

Loot 2.0 Don't need RoS to access
No more AH, better unique drop rate, smart loot that tailor drops for your class better. Just good stuff all around that addresses the probably weakest part of the game.

Mystic crafter
This crafter allows you to change the looks of your gear and reroll a single stat in your gear. This made a lot of drops very useful because you can just change the junk stats to something you want with it.

Act V
The tile set is great with a variety of gloomy city, dark swamp and derelict angelic fortress. While the bosses isn't spectacular like Belial, they are decent and Maltheal was a pretty interesting fight. Story-wise is kinda weak but then again, other than Diablo 2, very few ARPG had good stories. Cutscene wise though is disappointing especially at the end. They went with the art book style cutscene all around and while it's a nice aesthetic, it's never as exciting as the CG that Blizzard games are well known for.
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Old 2014-04-01, 23:45   Link #3798
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Diablo 3 finally looks very promising and I would love to buy it, but come on... how greedy can blizzard get? Demanding freaking 80 dollars for the game plus expansion is just... oh well...

Maybe one day the complete game will retail for $40 or so... one can only hope.
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Old 2014-04-02, 00:58   Link #3799
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Finished act V. Well... that was a pretty blatant setup for a followup expansion pack.
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It had been months since I played, and compared to what I remembered the Crusader felt really powerful. Able to both dish it out and take it better than any character I'd made before. Although patches since the last time I played may have made other classes more powerful than they used to be, and the improvements to the loot system definitely help. Now that I've won with my Crusader I may have to test out my other kids, although since my old characters were made before the changes to the difficulty settings they may be underleveled to take into Act V.
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Old 2014-04-02, 05:40   Link #3800
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Finished act V. Well... that was a pretty blatant setup for a followup expansion pack.
Spoiler:
It had been months since I played, and compared to what I remembered the Crusader felt really powerful. Able to both dish it out and take it better than any character I'd made before. Although patches since the last time I played may have made other classes more powerful than they used to be, and the improvements to the loot system definitely help. Now that I've won with my Crusader I may have to test out my other kids, although since my old characters were made before the changes to the difficulty settings they may be underleveled to take into Act V.
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