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aohige · 2012-05-23, 02:21

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Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

Solo melee is fine, because the illusion provide targets for revenge (or quickening bug for monk). The "real" mob will always have more hp/seem more durable. Mobs who fly away though, is another story... monk can attempt to spam cyclone strike, barbs... well... should prob just fight another pack.

Illusionist really hurt range dps if they are not in an AoE spec because the clone will soak attacks intended for the real target.

There's TWENTY FIVE targets on the screen all RUNNING AWAY from you.
Normally this is not an issue, but when there's that many? The time you spend chasing illusions, they simply cast more.

It's an endless chase.

LoweGear · 2012-05-23, 03:22

... and this would be the first time curse words flowed from my mouth like honey trying to kill an Elite mob in Hell difficulty.

That had Invulnerable Minions, Molten, and Extra Health.

And they were inside the Warrior's Rest, where kiting is very difficult to do. It took me like the better part of half an hour to kill him

At least I got some good loot out of him though when I finally got smashed by my Comet

Squarecrow · 2012-05-23, 03:34

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

... and this would be the first time curse words flowed from my mouth like honey trying to kill an Elite mob in Hell difficulty.

That had Invulnerable Minions, Molten, and Extra Health.

And they were inside the Warrior's Rest, where kiting is very difficult to do. It took me like the better part of half an hour to kill him

I tried running past some tough Elites in Act II Hell once. Ended up pulling a Champion group too. Jailer/Molten/Something and Jailer/Fire Chains/Nightmarish. Then I managed to pull another Champion group, Wallers.

Damn bees.

Managed to separate the wallers and take them out. Then slowly chip away at the bees with Blizzard from as far away as possible.

I'm going to pretend Inferno doesn't exist. I can't even imagine the insanity...

LoweGear · 2012-05-23, 03:39

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Originally Posted by Squarecrow

I'm going to pretend Inferno doesn't exist. I can't even imagine the insanity...

I'll tackle Inferno sooner or later, but that's because I'm already insane

Makes me pale at the thought of Hardcore difficulty though. I realize now that the only reason I managed to breeze through Hardcore Normal and Nightmare in D2 was due to potion spamming, which can't be done here

Jazzrat · 2012-05-23, 05:17

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

I'll tackle Inferno sooner or later, but that's because I'm already insane

Makes me pale at the thought of Hardcore difficulty though. I realize now that the only reason I managed to breeze through Hardcore Normal and Nightmare in D2 was due to potion spamming, which can't be done here

You know what would be fun? Having a global stat of the numbers of Hardcore character that died and a global toast whenever a certain milestone is reached XD

Skane · 2012-05-23, 06:23

The difference between your typical softcore character and hardcore character is this.

A softcore character is a Rocketboyz. Full speed ahead, consequences be damned. Death is meaningless.

A hardcore character is an Adeptus Terminator Grey Knight. Steady pacing, built like a tank and can take an insane amount of beating. Death is a tragedy.

Cheers.

LoweGear · 2012-05-23, 06:46

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Originally Posted by Skane

A hardcore character is an Adeptus Terminator Grey Knight. Steady pacing, built like a tank and can take an insane amount of beating. Death is a tragedy.

This makes me lament the fact that we can't play as a Paladin class. Sure we already have the Barbarian as a heavy melee class, and the Monk as the "holy" warrior. But having a Holy Knight Warrior class both gameplay and aesthetics-wise would be a nice addition to the game, something like a playable Templar follower.

Paranoid Android · 2012-05-23, 08:14

PsyStarcraft nearly beat every boss on Inferno solo (while it's not Hardcore, playing solo doesn't have that ridiculous resurrect teammate in mid-boss-battle element) O:

A leaderboard for Hardcore deaths and accomplishments would be pretty neat xD

Ak3mi · 2012-05-23, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

PsyStarcraft nearly beat every boss on Inferno solo (while it's not Hardcore, playing solo doesn't have that ridiculous resurrect teammate in mid-boss-battle element) O:

Pretty sure the wizard from method, and a couple others completed solo inferno last week on like thursday. They did cheese their way through though.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-05-23, 09:06

Some other random guy from Denmark (?) I think beat even them. From what I heard.

Paranoid Android · 2012-05-23, 09:33

Psy was using Barbarian. I think Monk is the hardest to solo inferno (Maybe WD? Their dps is a lot worse than the other two glass cannon classes). Being melee is so hard when you want to dodge just about everything on the screen.

Didn't watch method's solo. I only saw their team inferno runs and they kept ressing each other in-battle which was very unexciting

Archon_Wing · 2012-05-23, 10:36

So I'm a level 37 monk in act 2 in nightmare sporting some 60ish dps weapon that my friend granted me and have some 400ish dps overall. I use way of the hundred fists, that kick thingy and the cyclone. I think passives are the dex armor, +100 spirit, and the mantra length increase (actually I should really ditch this one). Mantra is healing because if I do anything else that 6.5k life doesn't mean very much. :S T The killing speed is still not very impressive in games with more than one person. If not so, I'd have a pretty shitty weapon for about 1/2 the dps. So I'm gonna turn to the auction house. Now how does that thing work. It says it's unavailable but do you guys think I can get anything for the 40k gold I've been saving up?

Skane · 2012-05-23, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

So I'm a level 37 monk in act 2 in nightmare sporting some 60ish dps weapon that my friend granted me and have some 400ish dps overall. I use way of the hundred fists, that kick thingy and the cyclone. I think passives are the dex armor, +100 spirit, and the mantra length increase (actually I should really ditch this one). Mantra is healing because if I do anything else that 6.5k life doesn't mean very much. :S T The killing speed is still not very impressive in games with more than one person. If not so, I'd have a pretty shitty weapon for about 1/2 the dps. So I'm gonna turn to the auction house. Now how does that thing work. It says it's unavailable but do you guys think I can get anything for the 40k gold I've been saving up?

Unless you're filthy rich, set the "Buyout Filter" to a maximum of 10,000g. You can get a LOT of decent gear for Nightmare in that range. 20k can get you good stuff for Hell-A1/A2.

Things only get really pricey from Lvl-55 onwards(40k plus), with a high spike at Lvl-60 (100k or get out).

Cheers.

Archon_Wing · 2012-05-23, 11:04

It seems like it's better to spend money on that rather than blow money on crafting.

And that damned AH won't come on. :S

Skane · 2012-05-23, 11:16

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

It seems like it's better to spend money on that rather than blow money on crafting.

And that damned AH won't come on. :S

The current problem with crafting now is that it is TOO RANDOM. It's like sliding your credit card on an one-armed bandit and hoping for that miraculous jackpot.

With MILLIONS of players generating loot from killing monsters, you can either-

a) Craft six times with odds like one in a million, or

b) Draw upon the collective power of people generating 6 loot each, a million times over and posting that item you want on the AH.

Guess which is more realistic...

When you have a million players, "One in a million" chances happen all the time. Diablo 3 has sold 6.3 million copies, not counting Annual Pass holders like me, which is 1.2 million.

With such saturation in the AH, "lowbie gear" will sell for crumbs, because there are millions of players in Normal/Nightmare. Gear only starts being "rare" in Hell and beyond because it is beyond the scope of a lot of casual players. Inferno gear is pure gold because extremely few people are farming it in comparison to the other difficulties.

So Blacksmithing will only make sense for crafting end-game gear. Don't bother salvaging in Normal/Nightmare.

Cheers.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-05-23, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Skane

Unless you're filthy rich, set the "Buyout Filter" to a maximum of 10,000g. You can get a LOT of decent gear for Nightmare in that range. 20k can get you good stuff for Hell-A1/A2.

I got most of my stuff at lv 40 for 4k.
Yes, lot of people seem like they are just want to empty their stash.

Flying Dagger · 2012-05-23, 13:00

600dps weapons used to sell like cupcakes @ 200k, these days I have to throw the really good ones for 125k, the weaker ones for 85k... some people might sell them for 50k. Def a good first step investment.

Because BSing is so useless: selling something pre-inferno on the AH for even 10k is better than disenchanting.

aohige · 2012-05-23, 13:53

Nice patch eh? Not a single buff, ALL nerfs.
I guess Blizzard was pissed people were actually progressing inferno.

Jazzrat · 2012-05-23, 14:05

afaik, the blacksmithing system is really just an inflation control for the AH. If things become too expensive on the market, BS becomes more attractive and double as a gold sink. If things are too cheap.. well no complains about that from me XD

Just found out a free voice conference service today call RaidCall if anyone is looking for one to chat with their friends. Much better compare to Skype/google hangout that i was using with my cousins to communicate in diablo.

LoweGear · 2012-05-23, 14:32

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Originally Posted by aohige

Nice patch eh? Not a single buff, ALL nerfs.
I guess Blizzard was pissed people were actually progressing inferno.

Where are the recent patch notes anyway?

2012-05-23, 03:22	Link #1902
LoweGear Device Meister Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Everywhere and nowhere at once	... and this would be the first time curse words flowed from my mouth like honey trying to kill an Elite mob in Hell difficulty. That had Invulnerable Minions, Molten, and Extra Health. And they were inside the Warrior's Rest, where kiting is very difficult to do. It took me like the better part of half an hour to kill him At least I got some good loot out of him though when I finally got smashed by my Comet __________________ On Righteousness: "You don't just have the moral high ground, you have moral orbital supremacy being overseen from your headquarters on the armour plated moon. Your moral space fleet patrols the entire fucking solar system."

2012-05-23, 06:23	Link #1906
Skane Anime Snark Join Date: May 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 30	The difference between your typical softcore character and hardcore character is this. A softcore character is a Rocketboyz. Full speed ahead, consequences be damned. Death is meaningless. A hardcore character is an Adeptus Terminator Grey Knight. Steady pacing, built like a tank and can take an insane amount of beating. Death is a tragedy. Cheers. __________________ Diablo 3 Battletag: Skane#1425 [Can't GIF This], [Jail's House of Rock], [Kanon In The Snow], [She Ain't Dead Yet... She's In Quantum], [She Stabs] Founder of "The Cult of Psycho-Moe", Member of "ARIA the Social Group" & the "Belkan Saint Church".

2012-05-23, 09:06	Link #1910
Mr Hat and Clogs Troublemaker Fanclub Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 30	Some other random guy from Denmark (?) I think beat even them. From what I heard. __________________

2012-05-23, 13:53	Link #1918
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Nice patch eh? Not a single buff, ALL nerfs. I guess Blizzard was pissed people were actually progressing inferno. __________________

2012-05-23, 14:05	Link #1919
Jazzrat Bearly Legal Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 30	afaik, the blacksmithing system is really just an inflation control for the AH. If things become too expensive on the market, BS becomes more attractive and double as a gold sink. If things are too cheap.. well no complains about that from me XD Just found out a free voice conference service today call RaidCall if anyone is looking for one to chat with their friends. Much better compare to Skype/google hangout that i was using with my cousins to communicate in diablo. __________________

2012-05-23, 08:14	Link #1908
Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 22	PsyStarcraft nearly beat every boss on Inferno solo (while it's not Hardcore, playing solo doesn't have that ridiculous resurrect teammate in mid-boss-battle element) O: A leaderboard for Hardcore deaths and accomplishments would be pretty neat xD

2012-05-23, 09:33	Link #1911
Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 22	Psy was using Barbarian. I think Monk is the hardest to solo inferno (Maybe WD? Their dps is a lot worse than the other two glass cannon classes). Being melee is so hard when you want to dodge just about everything on the screen. Didn't watch method's solo. I only saw their team inferno runs and they kept ressing each other in-battle which was very unexciting

2012-05-23, 13:00	Link #1917
Flying Dagger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	600dps weapons used to sell like cupcakes @ 200k, these days I have to throw the really good ones for 125k, the weaker ones for 85k... some people might sell them for 50k. Def a good first step investment. Because BSing is so useless: selling something pre-inferno on the AH for even 10k is better than disenchanting.