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Old 2011-04-10, 02:18   Link #3481
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What would hurt the most is if Zenkichi left willingly. Imagine Ajimu offering him a place at her side because he no longer has a reason to be with Medaka.

Zenkichi's been told over and over that he'll never be good enough to be beside her.He wanted to protect her from negativity and emotional harm, but Medaka's proven that she doesn't need his protection as she overcame and defeated Misogi on her own.

Can you imagine how Medaka would react if he left because he feels like he's not needed? I'd love to see this, Zenkichi ditching Medaka and trying to find a new purpose by Ajimu's side. How could Medaka try and convince Zenkichi that she needs him without going against her morals and without re-iterating the fact that she doesn't actually need him.

This would be so awesome.....if it happened.
Considering whats constantly happened with his character so far, I'm not willing to make any bets at all on him ever deciding he doesn't need to be glued to Medaka anymore. Either way, Ajimu is probably the only one that can pull it off now.

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Okay, I have to correct myself about Ajimu´s abilities:

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I love her. Clearly Kumagawa was the one influenced by her when he made plans that went against shounen logic. That was a curve ball I was not expecting lmao.

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Old 2011-04-10, 05:01   Link #3482
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To clarify things, Kumagawa said himself that he sealed the "existence" of Ajimu with his "Booky Maker" ability. This is the most likely explanation for why Medaka/Zenkichi don't remember her.
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Old 2011-04-10, 06:29   Link #3483
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Considering whats constantly happened with his character so far, I'm not willing to make any bets at all on him ever deciding he doesn't need to be glued to Medaka anymore. Either way, Ajimu is probably the only one that can pull it off now.



I love her. Clearly Kumagawa was the one influenced by her when he made plans that went against shounen logic. That was a curve ball I was not expecting lmao.

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I'd say that halfway through this next arc Nisio sets things up so that it looks a new antagonist is going to come in after Ajimu but then it turns out Ajimu herself set that guy up to get an element of surprise on Medaka and the gang so she can pull out her final trump card. That or the next arc is about Medaka not being the actual main character but really Zenkichi or something.

As for Ajimu herself, any other raw readers reading her lines in Hitei-hime's voice now that she's got white hair?
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Old 2011-04-10, 07:45   Link #3484
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Personal opinion about the abilities:

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Old 2011-04-10, 10:22   Link #3485
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ChimeraOfWind@Thanks for clearing up the thing.

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Personal opinion about the abilities:

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Old 2011-04-10, 12:40   Link #3486
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ChimeraOfWind@Thanks for clearing up the thing.


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but zen got that ability from her, she would just take it back.
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Old 2011-04-10, 12:41   Link #3487
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Personal opinion about the abilities:

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Old 2011-04-10, 12:59   Link #3488
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but zen got that ability from her, she would just take it back.
Bingo.
This was the first thing that puzzles me.
I could not understand why she not already taken them back afterall the elections are over.
It seems that she is expecting something leaving parasite Seeing to Zen.
Maybe she expected that Zen seeing through her vision of the world he teams up with her and as we know it would be bad for Medaka.
Thas why I said it would be ironic if Zen uses them to understand her and do the same thing he did with Mukea.
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Old 2011-04-10, 14:00   Link #3489
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well, first you'll have to see their abilities before trying to explain them >.>
only after seeing some of those one can have an idea of how they work
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Old 2011-04-12, 18:06   Link #3490
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Newest chapter is out at mangafox.

Too Negative to be a Plus, too Positive to be a Minus.

Instead of a "Zero" maybe that's what Zenkichi is, "Not Equal"
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Old 2011-04-12, 21:02   Link #3491
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Newest chapter is out at mangafox.

Too Negative to be a Plus, too Positive to be a Minus.

Instead of a "Zero" maybe that's what Zenkichi is, "Not Equal"
Don't know about New 'Nui, but Kumagawa's Ex has a ton of abilities, while Zen does not, so I'd say no before I said yes.
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Old 2011-04-12, 22:54   Link #3492
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Making a list of Ajimu's abilties thus far:

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Old 2011-04-12, 23:19   Link #3493
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Did anyone notice that kumagawas bookmark are not consistent with the other minuses seen.
scar dead- open old wound physical and mentally. INCLUDING materials.
encounter-pushes stress and damage onto other people. INCLUDING materials.
bookmaker-puts them on same level as him physically and mentally. no affect seen on materials. and he need to have contact to use it.

my theory is in the future, we will see that he can bring materials down to his level. for example a advanced book on economics would be brought down to his level so that he could understand it. Imagine the possibilities.


when there was abnormals people tried to find a way to make zen one, then when minus came they tried to see if he was a type of minus, I think i know what will happen now.
I like zen because he is normal in a crazy world, i though thats what other people liked about him too. but they want him to be some...something.
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Old 2011-04-12, 23:20   Link #3494
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Btw, about 'not equals' and the new Shiranui guy being one of them. Logical conclusion: Shiranui (the one we already know) is a 'not equal' as well.

Real Eater could possibly provide a clue as to their characteristics. Yes/no?
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Old 2011-04-12, 23:28   Link #3495
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Making a list of Ajimu's abilties thus far:

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Old 2011-04-12, 23:32   Link #3496
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Btw, about 'not equals' and the new Shiranui guy being one of them. Logical conclusion: Shiranui (the one we already know) is a 'not equal' as well.

Real Eater could possibly provide a clue as to their characteristics. Yes/no?
real eater eats rules. I came to this conclusion from what zen said. some people go around rules, she goes through them, thats her personality trait.
what happened to hinokage could be her eating the workings of his mr. unknown and regurgitating a new ability? not sure on this one

some one who can eat rules could be described as not equal to those who have to follow rules.
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Old 2011-04-13, 04:05   Link #3497
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Old 2011-04-13, 06:00   Link #3498
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So, where is Multiply, Divide and Infinity groups?
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Old 2011-04-13, 08:02   Link #3499
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^ sooner than what you do expect :3 (i would like an imaginary number group x3)
don't judge a book from its cover, don't judge a group by its name :P

but this time there are only 2? still don't get what is the reason of ajimu for wanting to oppose medaka, maybe it'll be explained next chapter..
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Old 2011-04-13, 11:30   Link #3500
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Newest chapter is out at mangafox.

Too Negative to be a Plus, too Positive to be a Minus.

Instead of a "Zero" maybe that's what Zenkichi is, "Not Equal"
Honestly, I was thinking the same thing after reading chapter 92.
Also after reading chapter 92 I was thinking of something that could have happened.
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