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Old 2012-04-19, 02:00   Link #8041
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Isn't that typical Niosion (however you spell it) though?

Ridiculously overpowered characters?

*Is reminded of a certain red-haired contractor from Zaregoto
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Old 2012-04-19, 02:08   Link #8042
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Isn't that typical Niosion (however you spell it) though?

Ridiculously overpowered characters?

*Is reminded of a certain red-haired contractor from Zaregoto
I wouldn't say they're typical (for starters neither Risuka, Monogatari, nor Katanagatari ever got this ridiculous). I really don't like dwelling on power level discussions, but I've previously commented that Zaregoto cast can tear Medaka's cast apart very easily if they were battling each other EVEN after Anshinin appeared, but I just so highly underestimated Anshinin's brokenness (welllll I can still bank on a certain character from Zaregoto to beat Ashinin, but cross series spoilers are not really encouraged here ... not to mention that I have 0 substantial fact to back up my claim ...).

Still for now, I would have to say Anshinin's still way too abnormal AND broken.
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Old 2012-04-19, 02:14   Link #8043
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So, wait, Zaregoto is actually a supernatural series? I've heard some stuff about "Four Worlds" or something, but I thought it was some kind of metaphor.
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Old 2012-04-19, 02:20   Link #8044
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So, wait, Zaregoto is actually a supernatural series? I've heard some stuff about "Four Worlds" or something, but I thought it was some kind of metaphor.
No, eeehhhhhhh, not really, but the characters can kill supernaturals ... probably, I don't know how to explain it. I would say they're the strongest humans if that make sense. If you really want to argue, you can definitely make a case that Medaka cast is stronger (which would make for a fun discussion actually). The Four Worlds thing is true though, and the crazy people are obviously the ones in the "Violence World" (but they're all crazy to some degree too ).
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Old 2012-04-19, 02:24   Link #8045
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I personally think it might be less about 'ridiculously overpowered' and more about some sort of 'genius fetish' that Niosion seems to have, if you look at his works (Zaregoto is all about genius's, that one faust one shot is about some genius weapon designer who looks suspiciously similar to Tachiarai from Medaka box imo, Katanagatari had mr completed blade and miss strategist, even Monogatari has Tsubasa, let alone Medaka box which had the entire flask arc).

But I digress, this is more becoming a post about Niosion rather than Medaka Box.

Anyhow, it's been on my mind, but has anyone else been somewhat wondering about the logic of choosing a person who despite being quite powerful, is famous for always losing? (Kumagawa)
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Old 2012-04-19, 03:07   Link #8046
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Old 2012-04-19, 03:45   Link #8047
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Old 2012-04-19, 03:59   Link #8048
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Old 2012-04-19, 03:59   Link #8049
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Not suprising that naze and emukae is on his council to be honest they are 2 of his biggest supporters in his efforts.
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Old 2012-04-19, 04:07   Link #8050
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Is there a possibility that Zenkichi expanded the number of student council positions? Yes, officially there are four other members, but he could still have allies and other members.
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Old 2012-04-19, 04:07   Link #8051
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Not suprising that naze and emukae is on his council to be honest they are 2 of his biggest supporters in his efforts.
True though I wonder why Kijira joined aside from the fact Zenkichi most probably really wanted her. I mean during the Aijimu arc she did it because she wanted Medaka to be happy and also partly because she thought Medaka was a Mary Sue.

Now she's seemingly permantly removing her bandages (something she's only really done once) and is part of his council for seemingly some other reason.

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Is there a possibility that Zenkichi expanded the number of student council positions? Yes, officially there are four other members, but he could still have allies and other members.
Actually he pretty much has. His entire manifesto was that everyone should sort out their own problems, so basically his aim is for the school to be autonomus which would require help form outside the student council or rather the entire school.
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Old 2012-04-19, 04:34   Link #8052
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Bandages issue could be to seem more open to regular students similar in the way that they all wearing proper school uniforms now.
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Old 2012-04-19, 04:38   Link #8053
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Bandages issue could be to seem more open to regular students similar in the way that they all wearing proper school uniforms now.
True could be, still seems a bit weird that for the entirity of her school life she didn't bother, you'd think the bandages would her most identifiable feature.
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Old 2012-04-19, 06:01   Link #8054
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Here we go.

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I already know Anshinin is broken as hell when she was introduced, but to have her skills put into an actual list just shows that she's probably the most ridiculous character in all of anime/manga/game history.



Just the highlighted ones: stronger than anyone, can absorb others, return others to level 1, instant kill upon eye contact, can take others' skills, can't die, will always win if the opponent's stronger (?), can continue fighting if dead (among other stuff like controlling black holes, reversing cause and effect, creating universe etc ....).

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

EDIT: Supposedly no rebirth skill (though skills that might as well give the same effects exist).
Loooooooooooooooooool Ooooh Ajimu, I love you so much
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Old 2012-04-19, 06:25   Link #8055
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HEY !
One of the girls look like Remilia Scarlet !
Who are them ?
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Old 2012-04-19, 06:58   Link #8056
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Spoiler for chapter 143:
I'd just like to point this out.

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Old 2012-04-19, 07:56   Link #8057
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Just because the minuses did lose against the council, doesn't mean they have to lose always. They just don't care if they do lose.
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Old 2012-04-19, 07:57   Link #8058
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Just because the minuses did lose against the council, doesn't mean they have to lose always. They just don't care if they do lose.
Which makes it even harder to win.
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Old 2012-04-19, 08:33   Link #8059
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But Kumagawa is the one who has specifically mentioned having 'never won' (although in essence, some of those might as well count as wins)
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Old 2012-04-19, 10:07   Link #8060
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I said she knows how to lose, not that she doesn't know how to win. It's completely different.

As for the general point: Minuses are naturally prone to losing. That's what makes them the opposite of abnormals, who can do things like always roll all 6's or open a door with a randomly changing password. Kumagawa is more Minus than the rest (just like Medaka is more Plus), so maybe they've won a few times in their lives, but they're still Minuses. Losing is who they are.
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