AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Related Topics > Manga & Light Novels

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2012-11-02, 02:16   Link #11021
SoloPanda
Not A Loli-con....
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Somewhere in the 11th dimension
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupus753 View Post
Anybody can make up demented pairings. Just like how I right this second made up the pairing of Medaka x male Medaka from another universe. They say you should be with someone who's deserving of you.
It's not demented! it's love! specialy since they are in they are Shiranuis they have to keep the blood line pure >.<
SoloPanda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 03:32   Link #11022
orangejuicetang
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Age: 23
Does anybody know what Shiranui meant when she told those two 'You would make talented doubles'? I mean, aren't they already doubles?
__________________
WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN

If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.
orangejuicetang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 03:43   Link #11023
novalysis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoloPanda View Post
It's not demented! it's love! specialy since they are in they are Shiranuis they have to keep the blood line pure >.<
A male Medaka and a Female Zenkichi might actually make for an interesting story

But honestly, I can't help but think of Maguro. If Medaka's mother had given birth to fraternal twins.... Oh the twincest! The horror!
novalysis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 10:10   Link #11024
DawnEmperor
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Somewhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by novalysis View Post
A male Medaka and a Female Zenkichi might actually make for an interesting story:
It would certainly make for some interesting implications.
DawnEmperor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 14:09   Link #11025
17Sevens
Member
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by novalysis View Post
A male Medaka and a Female Zenkichi might actually make for an interesting story
Heh, I wonder if more people would like Medaka if the character were male. All the cries of "Unfair! Broken!" would be replaced with "Brilliant! What a chessmaster!"
17Sevens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 14:54   Link #11026
Lupus753
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
It is also true that borderline abuse is roughly 542x as creepy when done by a male to a female rather than the other way around. Ever read those Neon Genesis Evangelion what-ifs that switch the genders of Shinji and Asuka? I rest my case.
Lupus753 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 15:31   Link #11027
DawnEmperor
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Somewhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17Sevens View Post
Heh, I wonder if more people would like Medaka if the character were male. All the cries of "Unfair! Broken!" would be replaced with "Brilliant! What a chessmaster!"
Really? I think Medaka's reminiscent of those cold, invincible jerks that are often in Shojo manga, that inexplicably get the affections of the female protagonist.
DawnEmperor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 15:45   Link #11028
Wolfenstein
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Falling View Post
lol, okay, edited this as well. I just wanted to mention that yeah, when talking about Medaka's changes/character development after ch. 140 we need to separate out Medaka's character development in general, versus Medaka's relationship with Zenkichi. Furthermore, when talking about Medaka and Zenkichi's relationship, given that Zenkichi explicitly refrained from influencing Medaka in a way which would directly benefit his romantic chances with her, I think that Medaka's reciprocity is a pretty big change/development in itself.
Yeah, it's a change in Medaka, for sure.

Still, the execution of it prevents me from actually enjoying it, like most things related to Medaka.

To me, it feels very much like a "tell" instead of a "show". Like a "more" instead of "less". "Over the top" instead of "subtle". I mean, she's literally telling him she loves him, but her other interactions are unchanged from the time she was completely platonically related to him. Makes it hard to feel for their relationship when she calls the guy she loves simple-minded when he worked his ass off to change that, ya know? Or by responding to him the same way as before.

Which...for Medaka is probably an accurate characterization, but that's just not something I find enjoyable.

Probably not making much sense, so sorry about that, Lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Falling View Post
Spoiler:
I spoil'd it as to not stretch the page. Hope you don't mind.

And, yeah. That's an interesting view, to say the least. It's certainly how a normal person could view such fantastic optimism, as too unrealistic. And if taken to heart for long, a detachment from the normal human condition. Which would be a regression for Medaka(though, honestly, I would't feel much of a difference) and a murder of Zen's character.

But, Nishio dosen't seem to think this is such a bad thing, to be honest. Some people do enjoy reading and marveling at the whimsy of the impossible and such(cause it's a manga and that can't happen in life) and that seems to be the path Nishio is taking with Zen/Medaka. I mean, Christ. They're marrying pretty soon. Dosen't seem to be any tangent to change to.

Not that I like this engagement, though, as I'm sure you know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 17Sevens
Heh, I wonder if more people would like Medaka if the character were male. All the cries of "Unfair! Broken!" would be replaced with "Brilliant! What a chessmaster!"
Honestly, I'd probably hate the character even more.

I mean, if it was a male, there wouldn't even be any tits or ass to keep me occupied while her boringness takes up the screen.
__________________
Wolfenstein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-02, 16:35   Link #11029
Alpha Knight
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfenstein View Post
I mean, if it was a male, there wouldn't even be any tits or ass to keep me occupied while her boringness takes up the screen.
O-ho, so you finally admit
Alpha Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 05:27   Link #11030
IronicTruth
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Have to say about a rule 63 Medaka and Zen

A pixiv artist has done a lot of work on it, buts its not really 'pure' fandom, its just a funny reactions of gender switch.

The pixiv artist is called 水森好美. Just see some of the work and you will laugh.
IronicTruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 08:53   Link #11031
kenjtr
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
I think medaka and zenkichis relationship recebles edese and tatsumi in akame ga kiru , edese is a dominant women who totally lacks emphaty and she wants to love a person who has potencial and brilliant smile , also edeses lack of emphaty makes her the perfect killer . Medaka is just like that she lacks emphaty and probably never be able to feel like others , medeka also seems a sadist ( if you look at her past actions she tortures people more then helping them and she seems to enjoy it , even medakas mother was like that ) . Medaka is a sadist , emotinless darkness but thats why she wants zenkichi who has emphaty , light and masocism ( for gods sake i never saw a character masocist as zenkichi lol ) . I dont think medaka will ever change she will always be a sadistic who lacks emphaty and rule people since she needs to be dominant . I think its zenkichi that needs to be changed he needs to go in his own way and stop being a masocist , selfless idiot , in the first place zenkichi didnt have to suffer that much since no matter what medaka will love him since he is like the perfect mate for her .
__________________

Last edited by kenjtr; 2012-11-04 at 09:31.
kenjtr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 08:58   Link #11032
Randrak42
ANEGO Worshiper
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjtr View Post
I think medaka and zenkichis relationship recebles edese and tatsumi in akame ga kiru , edese is a dominant women who totally likes emphaty and she wants to love a person who has potencial and brilliant smile , also edeses lack of emphaty makes her the perfect killer . Medaka is just like that she lacks emphaty and probably never be able to feel like others , medeka also seems a sadist ( if you look at her past actions she tortures people more then helping them and she seems to enjoy it , even medakas mother was like that ) . Medaka is a sadist , emotinless darkness but thats why she wants zenkichi who has emphaty , light and masocism ( for gods sake i never saw a character masocist as zenkichi lol ) . I dont think medaka will ever change she will always be a sadistic who likes emphaty and rule people since she needs to be dominant . I think its zenkichi that needs to be changed he needs to go in his own way and stop being a masocist , selfless idiot , in the first place zenkichi didnt have to suffer that much since no matter what medaka will love him since he is like the perfect mate for her .
I swear...if I could draw I'd be using this idea as we speak...
__________________

Spoiler for Top 10 Harem Protagonists:
Randrak42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 09:39   Link #11033
DawnEmperor
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Somewhere
Hey, what if it turns out that Zenkichi's mom married one of the Kurokami family(or one of the Tsurubami families)? And then Medaka turns out to be Zenkichi's cousin?(I mean, it's not like marrying your cousin is that taboo in Japan right)!!!!11111
DawnEmperor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 11:45   Link #11034
kenjtr
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnEmperor View Post
Hey, what if it turns out that Zenkichi's mom married one of the Kurokami family(or one of the Tsurubami families)? And then Medaka turns out to be Zenkichi's cousin?(I mean, it's not like marrying your cousin is that taboo in Japan right)!!!!11111
Marrying cousins is acceptable everywhere in the world its nothing weird .
__________________
kenjtr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 12:06   Link #11035
Guernsey
The GAP Man
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 26
Send a message via AIM to Guernsey Send a message via MSN to Guernsey Send a message via Yahoo to Guernsey
Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnEmperor View Post
Hey, what if it turns out that Zenkichi's mom married one of the Kurokami family(or one of the Tsurubami families)? And then Medaka turns out to be Zenkichi's cousin?(I mean, it's not like marrying your cousin is that taboo in Japan right)!!!!11111
Is that a joke?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjtr View Post
I think medaka and zenkichis relationship recebles edese and tatsumi in akame ga kiru , edese is a dominant women who totally lacks emphaty and she wants to love a person who has potencial and brilliant smile , also edeses lack of emphaty makes her the perfect killer . Medaka is just like that she lacks emphaty and probably never be able to feel like others , medeka also seems a sadist ( if you look at her past actions she tortures people more then helping them and she seems to enjoy it , even medakas mother was like that ) . Medaka is a sadist , emotinless darkness but thats why she wants zenkichi who has emphaty , light and masocism ( for gods sake i never saw a character masocist as zenkichi lol ) . I dont think medaka will ever change she will always be a sadistic who lacks emphaty and rule people since she needs to be dominant . I think its zenkichi that needs to be changed he needs to go in his own way and stop being a masocist , selfless idiot , in the first place zenkichi didnt have to suffer that much since no matter what medaka will love him since he is like the perfect mate for her .
I agree on the sadism and sociopathy, Medaka was never normal by most standards but she is no less abnormal than any shonen hero.
__________________
Guernsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 12:39   Link #11036
Kurosu
KORA!!
*Scanlator
 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Age: 23
Send a message via MSN to Kurosu
Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnEmperor View Post
Hey, what if it turns out that Zenkichi's mom married one of the Kurokami family(or one of the Tsurubami families)? And then Medaka turns out to be Zenkichi's cousin?(I mean, it's not like marrying your cousin is that taboo in Japan right)!!!!11111
On the contrary, even marrying an in-law seems to be against their marriage laws, let alone blood related.

Quote:
Most people related by blood, by adoption or through other marriages cannot get married in Japan.
via http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/acs/tacs-7114a.html
Kurosu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 12:43   Link #11037
kenjtr
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guernsey View Post
I agree on the sadism and sociopathy, Medaka was never normal by most standards but she is no less abnormal than any shonen hero.
If medaka became a villain she would be no different from "edese in akame ga kill " so i dont see her as a shounen hero at best medaka is misguided overlord But in this manga medaka isnt the weird one its zenkichi , we know lots of things about medaka but zenkichi is still a black box and even his mother seems really has shaddy plans for him . Medaka seems to have a monster inside and she can control it because she is a sadist dominant sociopath , this itself recembles edese controling ice teigu since they are both cant be controled by anyone . Even with all that superiority zenkichi can control medaka so i sometimes woder if zenkichi has much more sinister thing inside him .
__________________
kenjtr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 14:41   Link #11038
DawnEmperor
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Somewhere
Yes, I was being facetious with that. I was just exaggerating how much influence the Kurokami/Tsurubami family has, and how many connections with the plot they're making.
DawnEmperor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 18:15   Link #11039
mark1246
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Florida
does any one know the summary of the light novel regarding with Kumagawa? or an translated version anywhere?
mark1246 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-11-04, 18:18   Link #11040
kantou
Member
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangejuicetang View Post
The suitors as nurses. Plus, it's the two whose abilities we haven't seen yet.
we will be able to see their ability is cool.
kantou is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
action, comedy, harem, nishio, romance, shounen, student council

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:42.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.