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Old 2012-11-30, 13:00   Link #11261
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I surmise from this that you don't really know what a hater is. In fact, I didn't mention you, or anyone specifically as a hater.

FYI, the term "haters gonna hate" isn't about proving that my opinion is the right one or that any opposing opinion is invalid.

It's about not letting the opinions of other people bother you, because as you yourself pointed out, everyone has different opinions, and no one's opinion is greater than anyone's. So you can stop with the strawman argument.
A hater, from what I've always seen, is someone who hates something completely and utterly that no amount of convincing will even make them see good points about the object in question. On top of that, they get angry when any support is shown for the object at all.

On the opposite side, a "fanboy" is someone who likes something without question, ignoring all flaws and much like a hater, gets upset when someone dislikes something.

As I mentioned previously, both terms have negative connotations to them.

As Kurosu said, that was the point I was trying to make.

Anyway for the new chapter:

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Old 2012-11-30, 13:04   Link #11262
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Also, is it possible that the Tsurubami thing was a mistranslation?
Nnnnope.

「アブノーマル」と「マイナス」そして彼女が初めて体験する「スタイル」の三つを同時に操る鶴 喰鴎に黒神めだかは大層な苦戦を強いられた。
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:05   Link #11263
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Also, is it possible that the Tsurubami thing was a mistranslation? He can use Pluses, Minuses and Styles? Maybe they were talking about Medaka for a minute there, in contrast to Bami's style use.

But if he can, he's more badass than I imagined.
nope, it's right, he's just badass

edit: lol, ninja'd
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:07   Link #11264
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Well we ARE talking about a kid who not only developed his own style by himself (without even knowing what styles were) but also kicked Medaka's ass for a while.
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:12   Link #11265
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Well, damn.

Now, I can't read japanese, but I don't have any reason to doubt a confirmation.

So I hope this Minuses/Pluses belonging to Tsurubami don't get swept away and are explained. :P
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:32   Link #11266
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Wow, we really barely know anything about Kamome(and he's become one of the major supporting characters!). Similar to Zenkichi and Shiranui, does he really have much of a connection to his father?
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:37   Link #11267
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Somehow this chapter gave me the feeling that someday zenkichi will turn to a great evil , zenkichi gives me same feeling as griffith .
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:46   Link #11268
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:48   Link #11269
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I'm more concerned about the song, actually. Ok, it's Sukinasaki's, but why is Medaka singing that? Anything goes for a Style? I thought it needed certain word configurations.

I spent quite a long time searching for hidden meanings, word puns or references which would have been lost in translation, but I found nothing about toyboxes, gods and demons anywhere. Unlike Joutou's, which references old Japanese lullabies, it seems that her song is original. I just hope Nisio won't tell us many chapters later that it did actually contain important elements which I overlooked, at least not important enough to warrant a re-translation
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Old 2012-11-30, 13:49   Link #11270
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Somehow this chapter gave me the feeling that someday zenkichi will turn to a great evil , zenkichi gives me same feeling as griffith .
Okay I've been coming to this board for a while and never say anything, but because of you I felt the need to respond. Please stop with your annoyingly obvious terrible trolling.
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:02   Link #11271
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I'm more concerned about the song, actually. Ok, it's Sukinasaki's, but why is Medaka singing that? Anything goes for a Style? I thought it needed certain word configurations.

I spent quite a long time searching for hidden meanings, word puns or references which would have been lost in translation, but I found nothing about toyboxes, gods and demons anywhere. Unlike Joutou's, which references old Japanese lullabies, it seems that her song is original. I just hope Nisio won't tell us many chapters later that it did actually contain important elements which I overlooked, at least not important enough to warrant a re-translation
She is singing about her box and how it is locked for two more years...
Well I am outta here
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:03   Link #11272
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She is singing about her box and how it is locked for two more years...
Well I am outta here
Medaka's Box! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:08   Link #11273
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*Rimshot^

It all makes sense now, this is the true title drop!!
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:20   Link #11274
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I love how one of the Plus Six was brought up this chapter. Proof that Nisio hasn't completely forgotten about them, at least.
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:36   Link #11275
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*Rimshot^

It all makes sense now, this is the true title drop!!
It is finally beginning to make snese, now but still #&@# Nisio for actually making some sense,.

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I love how one of the Plus Six was brought up this chapter. Proof that Nisio hasn't completely forgotten about them, at least.
Whatever happened to them anyway?
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:43   Link #11276
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I'm actually surprised the plus six got referenced again. My take one the plus six was that they where meant to be ignored. In other shonen shows, if a character gets introduced with abilities and what not it usually means they'll get expanded on or fought against. Neither of those happened and they got forgotten because it's part of Nisio's tendency to be contrary.

Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:55   Link #11277
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Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?
Well, according to Fukurou this was all his plan to make Hansode stop being her double. All according to keikaku.
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Old 2012-11-30, 17:46   Link #11278
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about kamome having plusses and minuses, it could have just been some lent abilities from ajimu
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Old 2012-11-30, 20:18   Link #11279
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It's damn suspicious that we never saw that fight between him and Medaka. If nothing else we better get a flashback to it.
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Old 2012-11-30, 22:36   Link #11280
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Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?
More and more human like. Though, even as early as Unzen, I think it is hinted that as much as Medaka tries to be like a human, odds are, she'd never truly be "human", just "Human-like."

Medaka is a class of being probably more closer than Ajimu in nature than any other character, besides Hanten.
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