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Old 2012-12-15, 21:48   Link #11501
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I don't think Zen ever thought of Medaka as someone that was always right. He rearly agrees with her methods other then they some how seem to work out. I think the reason people see it that way is because if you boil it down Medaka's belife system is based off of Zen's all-be-it in a more childlike way, so of course he is going to think what she is doing is right most of the time it's what he would do.
If I remember correctly Zenkichi actually stated that Medaka was always right near the beginning of the series.
But like I said, this seems to have changed for a long while now.
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Old 2012-12-15, 23:58   Link #11502
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If you guys are following the anime he says the same thing again ("Medaka is always right", explicit words) during the Miyakanojou/Flask Plan confrontation. The most probable point you could note for when Zenkichi began wanting to disagree with Medaka is when Medaka decided to trust Kumagawa, and made him Vice President. In fact, that was the direct cause which lead Zenkichi to feel like he had to prove himself which lead to the Treasure Hunt incident.
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Old 2012-12-16, 02:35   Link #11503
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In fact, that was the direct cause which lead Zenkichi to feel like he had to prove himself which lead to the Treasure Hunt incident.
The direct cause of the Treasure Hunt incident was Zenkichi receiving Parasite Seeing more than anything else....
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Old 2012-12-16, 08:43   Link #11504
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Actually, to be more accurate, I guess you could call this "false" Plus, or "trying too hard" Plus.
In fact he's not a Plus, but a Zero
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Old 2012-12-16, 09:30   Link #11505
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The direct cause of the Treasure Hunt incident was Zenkichi receiving Parasite Seeing more than anything else....
I don't understand this...maybe I'm forgetting something but I don't remember PS being a factor in the creation of the Treasure Hunt.
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Old 2012-12-16, 13:13   Link #11506
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I don't understand this...maybe I'm forgetting something but I don't remember PS being a factor in the creation of the Treasure Hunt.
Nono.. I did not mean the treasure hunt itself,which was Medaka's creation, but the incident which happened with Zenkichi in the treasure hunt...that PS is more a cause of that incident than anything else.
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Old 2012-12-16, 13:29   Link #11507
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Nono.. I did not mean the treasure hunt itself,which was Medaka's creation, but the incident which happened with Zenkichi in the treasure hunt...that PS is more a cause of that incident than anything else.
Hmm...how so?
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Old 2012-12-16, 15:13   Link #11508
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I think he means once he got Parasite Seeing, he was no longer completely normal and there was an overall insecurity about it. It was only compounded by the successors arriving and upstaging him, albeit as a team.
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Old 2012-12-16, 16:27   Link #11509
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While he does say she is always right it is also clear that he doesn't belive she can't be wrong. And more offen then not in the earlier chapters he was anoyed when she is right. Durring the first chapter it is clear he thinks trying to reform the punks that took over the Kendo hall is a waste of time. and he also relates the story of her toutering for exams in middle school and completely missing the point by not going over any of the subjects just how to fill out the tests so there would not be any misunderstanding of what the answear was.

From Zen's veiw point, till resent chapters, that Medaka is aiways right is not a belife but a factual statement. She is never wrong about facts and since her whole ethical and moral out look are so heavly based on Zen's and she will stick to them no matter what, he can't belive they are wrong with out calling his own belife system into question.
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Old 2012-12-17, 02:19   Link #11510
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Hmm...how so?
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I think he means once he got Parasite Seeing, he was no longer completely normal and there was an overall insecurity about it. It was only compounded by the successors arriving and upstaging him, albeit as a team.
Yeah, pretty much this.
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Old 2012-12-17, 09:29   Link #11511
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Old 2012-12-17, 09:50   Link #11512
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Zen convinced the Student Council that they shouldn't rely on medaka to solve all their problems. To set her free

Maybe Zenkichi needs to be set free.

Has April Fiction even been explanied?
Has it's ability been explicitly stated?

We'rea ll assuming it does the same as All Fiction, but...doesn anyone else think that maybe Kumagawa wants her to change the ability
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Old 2012-12-17, 09:50   Link #11513
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I'll just copypaste what I already wrote elsewhere
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Also, according to 2ch Good Loser Kumagawa will get animated (last episode of Abnormal?) with Mizuki Nana as Ajimu and Hikasa Youko as Saki
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Old 2012-12-17, 12:49   Link #11514
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Well, at least it's not last!
at least it's not last...... ;_;

wasn't this the KumaxAjimu? I just don't know what to think anymore~~~


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Also, according to 2ch Good Loser Kumagawa will get animated (last episode of Abnormal?) with Mizuki Nana as Ajimu and Hikasa Youko as Saki
And awesome if true!! Thanks for that~
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Old 2012-12-17, 12:49   Link #11515
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Mizuki Nana as Ajimu
This works!
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Hikasa Youko as Saki
This does not. I wanted her to voice Wanizuka, damn it.
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Old 2012-12-17, 13:23   Link #11516
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Also, according to 2ch Good Loser Kumagawa will get animated (last episode of Abnormal?) with Mizuki Nana as Ajimu and Hikasa Youko as Saki
Hmmm I guess that can work actually... though I don't think that it would be the last episode - I heard that it would be original episode by Nishio again and I'm quite sure about that thanks to the opening. Maybe special(-s)/OVA for Blu-rays?

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I wanted her to voice Wanizuka, damn it.
That won't work because she'll never be animated
You just need to face the reality - Kuma's seiyu is asking for people to buy the BDs means that they'll maybe animate another season, at least, but I don't think that it will go farther than that.
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Old 2012-12-17, 15:33   Link #11517
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I'll just copypaste what I already wrote elsewhere
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Also, according to 2ch Good Loser Kumagawa will get animated (last episode of Abnormal?) with Mizuki Nana as Ajimu and Hikasa Youko as Saki
lol, are they serious. Seems kinda random. I can't imagine it doing too well if they do it without even adapting the Minus arc or introducing Kumagawa/Ajimu. Even the content of the manga chapter was way too kinda short and limited. While I guess an OVA/special episode would be cheaper/safer than another season, I wonder what they think they'd actually achieve with this.
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Old 2012-12-17, 16:44   Link #11518
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Isn't Shonen Jump(along with other magazines going on break soon? Is this the last chapter Redkey?
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Old 2012-12-17, 18:49   Link #11519
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No Kakegae & Medaka this chapter?

Imagine Iihiko bulldozing through all those Kakagae clones.
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Old 2012-12-17, 19:20   Link #11520
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Zen convinced the Student Council that they shouldn't rely on medaka to solve all their problems. To set her free

Maybe Zenkichi needs to be set free.

Has April Fiction even been explanied?
Has it's ability been explicitly stated?

We'rea ll assuming it does the same as All Fiction, but...doesn anyone else think that maybe Kumagawa wants her to change the ability
I'm kinda curious about it myself, Kuma-chans gonna be like, [April Fools! he's right here.... hmm where is he? I'm not really sure how this thing works.] /shrug
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