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Old 2013-03-08, 19:10   Link #12721
K. Shiruto
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But are we really going to redo Zenkichi vs Medaka part 3 or swap him for another character. I can't see Nisio turning Medaka into an actual villain as we've been through this twice. I just don't see it. Even in the Aijimu arc Zenkichi never actually fought Medaka, despite the fact he originally specifically trained for it.
When did I say Zenkichi should fight her again? It's more about saving Medaka than facing her off. I've long come to the conclusion that one day her own abnormality will end up eating her up. The End God Mode is a clear sign.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:12   Link #12722
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huuh so Medaka fought against War-Gold huh? http://medakabox.wikia.com/wiki/Grea..._King_War-Gold
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:16   Link #12723
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When did I say Zenkichi should fight her again? It's more about saving Medaka than facing her off. I've long come to the conclusion that one day her own abnormality will end up eating her up. The End God Mode is a clear sign.
But like I said we've been through even that plot point, just exchange The End eating her up with Medaka II, or her distorting Zenkichi's ideal. We've "saved" Medaka twice. I just find it weird if we save her a third time. She's not the sort of character that really needs saving.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:16   Link #12724
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They don't have to fight, but The End should be a major plot point of the next arc.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:20   Link #12725
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And it will. Funny fact, only Oudo knows what it is exactly.

Even more reason if this next arc ends with the wedding.

And I must also point, I'm delighted with Nienami's character development, and for the fact she's now part of the main cast.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:21   Link #12726
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@Tenchi: Zen has fought Medaka once before (I don't consider that second time "fighting"), but much more could be done with it. Then again, that might be reason enough for Nisio to not go through with it. But I certainly don't consider The End swallowing her up to be at all equivalent.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:26   Link #12727
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@Wolfenstein Tell me how you would set up Zen vs his dad. It's an interesting idea.
Eh, I'd so something pretty simple with it.

Something like his father powers-up out of his contempt for his own mediocrity. Raises a group of followers(which would inevitably fight Zen's Student council), and sets out to rid the world of extraordinary people, people with skills. Maybe Nishio can even shoehorn in something to stop skill-usage to make it feasible. Or just don't include overpowered characters in the arc.

But I'd end it kinda like this.

Well, that's how I'd do it. Sure, it's standard, but I feel the manga needs a break.

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Well, Zen's school graduation speech was painful to read. In that regard, it was highly realistic.
I'm confused as to what you mean.

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They don't have to fight, but The End should be a major plot point of the next arc.
Nah. All he really needs to do is follow Tenchi's advice, and just give the manga a break from Medaka.

Any material that he writes, which dosen't include her, generally comes out very decent.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:29   Link #12728
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Just read the latest chapter, Nishio could've ended Medaka Box then and there and it would've been great..... Why another arc.....
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:29   Link #12729
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We have already discussed many times that Medaka's portrayal is written this way on purpose, though. So I don't know why it should be bad to have her along.

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Just read the latest chapter, Nishio could've ended Medaka Box then and there and it would've been great..... Why another arc.....
Where have I read this befor... oh, yeah, at the end of the Treasure Hunt arc.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:29   Link #12730
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@Wolf: It was a dumb joke on how I hate sappy speeches, like those for graduation.

I never felt like Zen's father was more than background info, myself.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:32   Link #12731
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It wasn't dumb, I was just wondering, but I agree. That's definitely something you'd hear out of a high school graduation. Except for the part about "People like that don't know how to be alone and stuff".

But the rest, about, 1 + 1, yeah. That's totally how a normal speech would go. I guess Nishio wanted to give off the school vibe to that place.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:35   Link #12732
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huuh so Medaka fought against War-Gold huh? http://medakabox.wikia.com/wiki/Grea..._King_War-Gold
Haaa... I never noticed that. xD That's awesome.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:42   Link #12733
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The break would be beneficial. More time to come up with ideas, brainstorm and overall just get a break to recharge your batteries and get the creative juices flowing.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:44   Link #12734
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Exactly for what an author who is already one year ahead of the latest chapter that is released needs a break?
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:51   Link #12735
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Exactly for what an author who is already one year ahead of the latest chapter that is released needs a break?
Dang, I didn't know that. Sorry.
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Old 2013-03-08, 19:55   Link #12736
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ok chapter...
Munakata getting a single small panel at his graduation.. seriously... I am disappointed. And was Ninenami a third year??
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Old 2013-03-08, 20:03   Link #12737
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Holy... Oh well. Now it seems Medaka Box will become the new
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Unless the next arc can seriously IMPRESS.
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Old 2013-03-08, 20:07   Link #12738
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I predict next arc will feature a super saiyan time traveller.
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Old 2013-03-08, 23:26   Link #12739
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Destroyed the moon, saved an alien, fought an evil king in another universe, and got caught in a war between light and dark? Oh, Nisio, you card.

I liked the speeches. Kumagawa was fun as usual, and Zenkichi was a little less lame. And I only just noticed that Kumagawa dropped his brackets a couple times in the last two chapters. Almost makes me want to check the raws to see if it really happened. If it did: cool.
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Old 2013-03-08, 23:29   Link #12740
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Hold on for a second, we didn't even go through the Freiza saga. Couldn't resist.
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