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Old 2013-03-15, 10:15   Link #12801
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My respect for Zenkichi just went top notch.

I wonder if Nisio is gonna make an entire arc out of a farewell party.

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Anyway what happened to her boobs (even her body), they seem to have shrunk...
That uniform is very tight, I must say.
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Old 2013-03-15, 11:17   Link #12802
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Part of me is happy with this outcome and yet, I find myself not too please.

Without anything to hate on, what's the point. I might need to put this on the backburner for a while.
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Old 2013-03-15, 11:35   Link #12803
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We could honestly think of a number of parallels for...any two characters. I'll just throw in Akune and Oudo; arrogant suitors of Medaka who look down on others(Akune at least initially) and achieve popularity in different ways. Oudo forcibly makes people bow down, while Akune has legitimately earned affection as a gentlemanly figure(most of the time).

Kumagawa and Naze are both defined by suffering and a negative attitude, by while Kumagawa considers it an inevitability, Naze uses suffering more as a way to get more out of life.

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Old 2013-03-15, 11:39   Link #12804
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We could honestly think of a number of parallels for...any two characters. I'll just throw in Akune and Oudo; arrogant suitors of Medaka who look down on others(Akune at least initially) and achieve popularity in different ways. Oudo forcibly makes people bow down, while Akune is genuinely liked.
Well, there is a difference.

The parallels that orange brought up were obviously meant to be identified in the story, because they're always used in a context of contrast by either the author, narrators or the characters.

That one example you gave, well, not so much. I doubt Nishio even recognized it himself, or would care to.
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Old 2013-03-15, 12:22   Link #12805
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Well, there is a difference.

The parallels that orange brought up were obviously meant to be identified in the story, because they're always used in a context of contrast by either the author, narrators or the characters.

That one example you gave, well, not so much. I doubt Nishio even recognized it himself, or would care to.
True, I was just pointing out that parallels could be conjured of everything
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Old 2013-03-15, 12:54   Link #12806
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I think zenkichi deserves a women that makes him food or goes to cinema with him etc... something simple , only reason zenkichi being medaka was that his trauma with his father but after medaka left him for good to save the world all the burden lifted from his shoulders since medaka was the one who bailed not him . I dont think zenkichi will be back with medaka from now on anyway i hope medaka becomes happy with kuroki group lol .
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:00   Link #12807
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I think zenkichi deserves a women that makes him food or goes to cinema with him etc... something simple , only reason zenkichi being medaka was that his trauma with his father but after medaka left him for good to save the world all the burden lifted from his shoulders since medaka was the one who bailed not him . I dont think zenkichi will be back with medaka from now on anyway i hope medaka becomes happy with kuroki group lol .
They're still engaged though. I just can't see this manga ending with anything but a Medaka and Zenkichi wedding. If they had separated at the end of an arc, I might have thought it could be permanent, but I feel quite confident in assuming they'll be together again at the end of this arc (preferably after substantial growth for both Zenkichi and Medaka).
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:11   Link #12808
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They're still engaged though. I just can't see this manga ending with anything but a Medaka and Zenkichi wedding. If they had separated at the end of an arc, I might have thought it could be permanent, but I feel quite confident in assuming they'll be together again at the end of this arc (preferably after substantial growth for both Zenkichi and Medaka).
I think medaka leaving zenkichi to destroy the moon and not even saying a goodbye really hurt zenkichi inside so medaka is just being an idiot for waiting that zenkichi would forgive her like that , as i said medaka pretty much bailed on zenkichi like his father did and thats the only thing zenkichi cant forgive .
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:27   Link #12809
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kenjtr@ We are reading the same manga/story?
Because this ch have nothing to do with that or their *engagement *Zen answer to her like that no because he not like her or don't want go with her he epxlain pretty well the reason.
This ch just show us that both of them take their own path and again this have nothing to do with their love life.
Medaka was suprise or even shocked by his answer true but she understand what he mean with that and if you see his face /reaction before he answer her you can see that Zen was pretty happy.

Honestly poeple just see what is not there.
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:30   Link #12810
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All i saw was medaka bailing zenkichi like his father and zenkichi ending their realationship without hurting her much , zenkichi will never forget or forgive what medaka did .
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:33   Link #12811
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I think medaka leaving zenkichi to destroy the moon and not even saying a goodbye really hurt zenkichi inside so medaka is just being an idiot for waiting that zenkichi would forgive her like that , as i said medaka pretty much bailed on zenkichi like his father did and thats the only thing zenkichi cant forgive .
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All i saw was medaka bailing zenkichi like his father and zenkichi ending their realationship without hurting her much , zenkichi will never forget or forgive what medaka did .
Yeah...I haven't seen any indications that he's even slightly upset at what she did two chapters ago.
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:44   Link #12812
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All i saw was medaka bailing zenkichi like his father and zenkichi ending their realationship without hurting her much , zenkichi will never forget or forgive what medaka did .
Again he not ended their relationship at all.
That scene only served to show us the growth of both Zen and Medaka as person .
Again that scene have nothing to do with their private life a couple.
And I think the last page and how Zen talk with Nienami and how Medaka answer him.


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Yeah...I haven't seen any indications that he's even slightly upset at what she did two chapters ago.
Same here.
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:49   Link #12813
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I think zenkichi still loves medaka but he cant forgive her anyway i dont want medaka to be with zenkichi without trying at all , the way i see it zenkichi is just heart broken and i hope someone is there to fix it ( anshin )
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Old 2013-03-15, 13:57   Link #12814
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kenjtr, I know you don't like Zen and Medaka as a couple, but cmon, you just can't deny the evidence.

Going by the text in the last page, seems this new arc will finally have the wedding.
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:14   Link #12815
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^ So I'm not the only one who thought of this after reading the last page.

kenjtr@ Zen heart is fine.
Like Kurusu-Shirudo say you can't deny the evidence and if Zen heart was really broken (like you say) ,trust me he would act differently at the end of the ch.
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:17   Link #12816
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I have the feeling that kenjtr is saying what she wanted to happen, not what actually did. I also think that would have been the preferable outcome (instead of the author not thinking that maybe Medaka should talk to Zen before her go-to-moon business).

I still think the wedding is inevitable, mostly given the cover of vol. 18. Unless that was made to through us off-track...
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:30   Link #12817
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Lol Medaka talking about exposing her cleavage and navel. I bet anything you want she'll wear a very revealing wedding dress.
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:33   Link #12818
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^ So I'm not the only one who thought of this after reading the last page.
You're not alone on that one. Hopefully there would be a wedding at the end of the arc or at least a hint. Too tired to read delusional posts
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:37   Link #12819
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This time it should happen. Medaka's leaving studies and I can't see Zenkichi staying there any longer. I know they promised not have any lovey-dovey for 2 years, but...

But Zenkichi can't marry until he meets his dad...!!
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:10   Link #12820
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. I still think the wedding is inevitable, mostly given the cover of vol. 18. Unless that was made to through us off-track...
Hopefully your theory could be proven right with time.

I mean, Zenkichi did have some veeery interesting dialogue with Nienami in this chapter. Even though at no point did he say he didn't love Medaka anymore, or that the engagement was off, the undertones and vibes are still there.

I guess we'll wait and see.
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