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Old 2013-03-15, 15:25   Link #12821
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Hopefully your theory could be proven right with time.

I mean, Zenkichi did have some veeery interesting dialogue with Nienami in this chapter. Even though at no point did he say he didn't love Medaka anymore, or that the engagement was off, the undertones and vibes are still there.

I guess we'll wait and see.
I also thought the same zenkichi seems really hurt inside but he just cant show it .
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:32   Link #12822
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In fact it is certainly stupid/typical love story drama. But all will be well.
Meaning of words Zen is not that he does not love Medaka.
He said he does not want to be behind Medaka.
He wants to be with Medaka.
And it may even be ahead of Medaka.
Medaka has changed - it's time to change me.

Most likely all goes to plan. According to the plan developed by Nishino.
Never believe Nishino in three cases:
- He will kill Medaka
- He will kill Zen
- He will break a couple of Medaka x Zen
It's a lie IMHO
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:38   Link #12823
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Damn, the Medaka x Zenkichi haters are constructing some powerful delusions. I'm not necessarily suggesting that it's completely impossible for Zenkichi to fall out of love with Medaka in some distant future, but I think some are reading far too much into a few lines from Zenkichi that most likely simply indicated a desire to better himself before he's able to leave the school and marry Medaka. It would take considerably more to damage his love for Medaka.
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:42   Link #12824
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I also thought the same zenkichi seems really hurt inside but he just cant show it .
I don't think he's "hurt" or anything.

I think, after he shed all the skin that Naze stated he did from beating the crap out of the manga's strongest villain and all, maybe he's just maturing.

Sure, dosen't mean he's called off the engagement. Probably hasn't. Yet. Hopefully.

It just means he's got some veeeery interesting dialogue to show for now:

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Only the future will tell.

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And besides, whether you are pro-MedakaxZen or whether you're anti-MedakaxZen, I think both sides can easily agree that this chapter was a massive service for Zenkichi's whole character. Him deciding to live his own life for now, simply because he wants to and is having fun, and deciding that he can't just be satisfied anymore just by being with Medaka(ala Hanten and Anshin), is certainly extremely cool and understandable.

Now, the bigger issue: what's up with Nienami? I'm starting to think she might really be Anshin'san, she's so interested in Zenkichi's life, what the fuck...
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Old 2013-03-15, 17:15   Link #12825
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I don't think he's "hurt" or anything.

I think, after he shed all the skin that Naze stated he did from beating the crap out of the manga's strongest villain and all, maybe he's just maturing.

Sure, dosen't mean he's called off the engagement. Probably hasn't. Yet. Hopefully.

It just means he's got some veeeery interesting dialogue to show for now:

Spoiler:


Only the future will tell.

Edit:

And besides, whether you are pro-MedakaxZen or whether you're anti-MedakaxZen, I think both sides can easily agree that this chapter was a massive service for Zenkichi's whole character. Him deciding to live his own life for now, simply because he wants to and is having fun, and deciding that he can't just be satisfied anymore just by being with Medaka(ala Hanten and Anshin), is certainly extremely cool and understandable.

Now, the bigger issue: what's up with Nienami? I'm starting to think she might really be Anshin'san, she's so interested in Zenkichi's life, what the fuck...
I don't know why but Zenkichi's face when he says I'm no longer satisfied by just being by her side reminds me of the Soul eater Excalibur face. It's basically like he just saw his future and went nope fuck that.
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Old 2013-03-15, 17:20   Link #12826
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Tenchi Hou Take@ More than that I think he don't want a future like that where he is with Medaka ..yes but not the way he want.
So he know that he need to do this ,if he want to be with her in the right way.

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Now, the bigger issue: what's up with Nienami? I'm starting to think she might really be Anshin'san, she's so interested in Zenkichi's life, what the fuck..
This is something that I wondering as well.
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Old 2013-03-15, 17:58   Link #12827
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Now, the bigger issue: what's up with Nienami? I'm starting to think she might really be Anshin'san, she's so interested in Zenkichi's life, what the fuck...
So I'm not the only one. Even from that time where Zenkichi heard her voice resounding at this back, and who was the one who was there, behind him, in that very instant? Yep, she.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:04   Link #12828
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I don't know why but Zenkichi's face when he says I'm no longer satisfied by just being by her side reminds me of the Soul eater Excalibur face. It's basically like he just saw his future and went nope fuck that.
Now that you mention it, the face is eerily familiar.

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Tenchi Hou Take@ More than that I think he don't want a future like that where he is with Medaka ..yes but not the way he want.
So he know that he need to do this ,if he want to be with her in the right way.
Don't mis-understand, though.

All he just did had nothing to do with "being with Medaka in the right way". He's not doing this for her sake, or because he loves her, or anything of the sort.
He's changing, precisely for that reason, precisely because he can't be satisfied anymore with *just* Medaka. He dosen't want to be like Hanten anymore. He realizes that he can't stay like that forever.

He's not doing anything for anyone this time, except for himself. Maybe Nishio played some Metal Gear Rising recently...

Dosen't mean he grew out of loving her, though. Unfortunately.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:05   Link #12829
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TBF considering hasn't so much as had a proper conversation with Medaka, Zenkichi's the only guy she can stick with to remain in the "spotlight".
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:10   Link #12830
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Meh, it sounds like Nishio's going to make an entire arc out of this party, so I'm sure we'll be seeing her.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:15   Link #12831
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So I'm not the only one. Even from that time where Zenkichi heard her voice resounding at this back, and who was the one who was there, behind him, in that very instant? Yep, she.
Well that wouldn't be a surprise, she does have terminals everywhere after all.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:17   Link #12832
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And if you notice, Nishio purposefully gives her some of Anshin's mannerisims. Well, at least, I think so. Can't really be sure.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:19   Link #12833
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I'll stick with my theory that Nienami inherited Anshin's spirit and will and is slowly becoming like her.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:45   Link #12834
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You know, Nienami x Zenkichi?

I could ship it. They have some cool scenes.
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Old 2013-03-15, 18:58   Link #12835
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I don't discard this. Wanna know why? Because I've read/watched other Nisio's works and I know how they ended.
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Old 2013-03-15, 19:04   Link #12836
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This far into the series, and we finally see teachers.

I'm most interested to see the -13 Homeroon teacher in action.

Moreover, a hint to Medaka's past of desperation of not being alone anymore, asking Zenkichi to come with her. And kudos to him for not bending to her will and telling her what he wanted for a change.

Wonder what'll happen now. Anyone think she'll get a job at Hakoniwa as a teacher?
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Old 2013-03-15, 19:09   Link #12837
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@Wolf: Should I call it ZeNami or NienIchi?
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Old 2013-03-15, 19:12   Link #12838
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Zenami sounds better.
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Old 2013-03-15, 19:24   Link #12839
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Zenami sounds better.
^

This.

Now, to kick-start, I would have to find some fan-art, but there probably is none.
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Old 2013-03-15, 19:27   Link #12840
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You can always draw one yourself...



no, forget what I've just said.
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