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Old 2013-04-23, 09:05   Link #13341
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Just with the final part of the spoiler I already know I'm going to like this chapter a lot. Medaka and Zenkichi in their line, which I love, but what I like most is that the unexpected happened when I was one of the many who thought we would see their wedding

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Old 2013-04-23, 09:12   Link #13342
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The development of Medaka and Zenkichi's relationship in this chapter was very satisfying; everything else... not so much.

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Old 2013-04-23, 09:37   Link #13343
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Yup, so there's going to be one more final chapter chronicling Kumagawa, presumably timeskip Kumagawa. Guy gets a whole chapter to himself, gotta say, Jump has been rather kind to this series.
For a series with the sales it had and failure of an anime, not only does it have a proper end (in a sense), it also goes out with a color page and a fan book. Probably the best we could ask for tbh.
True, true.

Considering this manga's sales and situation, I guess it really got squeezed for the most it could. I can definitely take at least some comfort in that.
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Old 2013-04-23, 09:46   Link #13344
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I actually predicted this ages ago. None of the adults we've seen in the series have Skills with the exception of Hitomi, who is a permaloli.
So yeah, I'd assume it's the typical "only kids can pilot mecha have powers" kind of thing. *cough*Yet another reason why Medaka Box is bad.*cough*
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I like how the author doesn't even bother making a explanation for how Medaka and co lost their skills.

Definitely not trying anymore.
Sigh..

Actually, losing Skills as they grow up makes perfect sense. Skills are born from personalities, so the stronger and more unrealistic the Skill is, the more self obsessed the person is, whether they're Plus or Minus. But that sort of thing is child-like, and you can't keep that up as you get older and enter into the world of adults.

It's another one of Nisio's little subversions. This is a shounen manga, meant for young people to read, which is why the main characters are young people. Once they get older, well, they can't be main characters anymore, so they don't need the powers.
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Old 2013-04-23, 09:57   Link #13345
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Spoiler for Chapter 192 full spoilers:

The development of Medaka and Zenkichi's relationship in this chapter was very satisfying; everything else... not so much.

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Some raw out?
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Old 2013-04-23, 10:14   Link #13346
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Everyone talks about Nishio....but I will say this: I will miss Akatsuki's art, always found it to be orgasmicaly good xD
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Old 2013-04-23, 10:25   Link #13347
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It seems that the last part of Good loser Kumagawa will appear in Jump Next.
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Old 2013-04-23, 10:51   Link #13348
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Spoiler for Chapter 192 full spoilers:

The development of Medaka and Zenkichi's relationship in this chapter was very satisfying; everything else... not so much.

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In any case, the end of this series will also mark the end of one of the few major Nishio translation efforts in the west, particularly the only one with consistently regular releases. I will be enjoying the return of the Monogatari anime this summer, but hope the efforts on more of his written output can pick up soon.
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Old 2013-04-23, 12:59   Link #13349
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Old 2013-04-23, 12:59   Link #13350
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I also wanted to ask about that "last chapter of GLK" stuff... doesn't GLK consist only of one-shot and 2 novels?
Yes. But there's going to be one more chapter of GLK, so we can assume it's the epilogue of his story.
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Old 2013-04-23, 13:29   Link #13351
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Old 2013-04-23, 13:34   Link #13352
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Actually, losing Skills as they grow up makes perfect sense. Skills are born from personalities, so the stronger and more unrealistic the Skill is, the more self obsessed the person is, whether they're Plus or Minus. But that sort of thing is child-like, and you can't keep that up as you get older and enter into the world of adults.
Because adults can't be bratty and self-obsessed, right? Because a lot of adults aren't just pretending to be mature, acting in accordance with their internalized concept of adulthood, right?
Maybe the chapter offers an explanation that's not complete shit, but this sort of plot device is commonly used to devalue the usefulness and competency of characters over 20 years old, making teenagers seem far more powerful and important than they actually are in real life. It's a power fantasy thing.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but as someone who is no longer a teenager, I feel rather insulted every time an anime tells me that I'm worthless due to being ever-so-old.
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Old 2013-04-23, 14:50   Link #13353
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Yup, so there's going to be one more final chapter chronicling Kumagawa, presumably timeskip Kumagawa. Guy gets a whole chapter to himself, gotta say, Jump has been rather kind to this series.
For a series with the sales it had and failure of an anime, not only does it have a proper end (in a sense), it also goes out with a color page and a fan book. Probably the best we could ask for tbh.
Why is it a failure? every volume since the third has sold over 100,000 copies that's better than what most manga in shonen jump can get.
You only have to look at how many real failures there are like Cross・Manage, Hungry Joker, Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san and Koisuru Edison that's 4 out of only 21 current jump manga for instance without counting all the manga that have come and gone since Medaka started.
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Old 2013-04-23, 14:54   Link #13354
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Why is it a failure? every volume since the third has sold over 100,000 copies that's better than what most manga in shonen jump can get.
Probably because the amount of advertisement + an anime, which still resulted in shit sales(relatively). It just wasn't paying back.
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Old 2013-04-23, 16:36   Link #13355
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Why is it a failure? every volume since the third has sold over 100,000 copies that's better than what most manga in shonen jump can get.
You only have to look at how many real failures there are like Cross・Manage, Hungry Joker, Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san and Koisuru Edison that's 4 out of only 21 current jump manga for instance without counting all the manga that have come and gone since Medaka started.
I said the anime was a failure. I spoke about the manga sales in the sense that it kinda just stayed at average. Which, considering that it got anime and light novels, is not a good look.
It kinda just speaks to how poorly the anime did. However, with all they put into this, I can only imagine Medaka Box performed below expectations, which is why I'm rather happy
that Jump supported it as they did up until the end and then some.

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Old 2013-04-23, 17:16   Link #13356
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Why is it a failure? every volume since the third has sold over 100,000 copies that's better than what most manga in shonen jump can get.
You only have to look at how many real failures there are like Cross・Manage, Hungry Joker, Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san and Koisuru Edison that's 4 out of only 21 current jump manga for instance without counting all the manga that have come and gone since Medaka started.
Well Magazine itself did support this manga and was much more patient with it than with some other manga's in its place so you have to take that into account too just as big advertisement stuffed into this project.

Manga sales are alright but not something spectacular too and considering it did get anime the sales should have been higher too.

All and all I am happy it ended - giving some space for new manga's and hopefully Nisio will go back focusing on novels more because lately I felt that even his novel works were kind of getting worse too, specially when compared to his first ones.
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Old 2013-04-23, 17:55   Link #13357
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I guess Zen being normal was actually a good thing in the end for him.
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Old 2013-04-23, 18:26   Link #13358
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Volume 21 will be on sale 4th June and Volume 22 on September.

Next WCF J-Stars figure sets for October, November and Dicember, Medaka figure here

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Old 2013-04-23, 19:00   Link #13359
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is it ever explain who the father of the baby is?
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Old 2013-04-23, 20:23   Link #13360
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