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Old 2013-08-23, 00:03   Link #721
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Yeah I have no idea what you said. The game I played most was Gunz: The Duel, more of an MMO third person shooter. Though there was leveling and purchasable items in the store. FFXIV will be my actual first MMORPG.
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Old 2013-08-23, 00:55   Link #722
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I play MMOs for the endgame.

I am a raider; that's what I do in MMOs. In F2P MMOs, being an endgame raider even on the middle of the scale means you pay lots and lots and lots of money on the cash shop.

If I was just a casual player I'd agree with you, but the deal here is that most F2P MMOs, the endgame players are subsidizing the rest of the playerbase. It's not any sort of big mystery why someone like me would hate F2P games; we're essentially paying the subscription fees of everyone who doesn't spend money in the shop... and that's not exactly fair.
It also doesn't help that with some free MMO, some mechanism is tweaked in such a way that you either solo farm for a long time (system might be changed to make it extremely tedious) or u open ur wallet. For example, Dragon Nest SEA. Farming solo for item and in game gold is extremely limited with the introduction of the fatigue system last year, resulting in like half the item drop the moment you empty that bloody bar. Heck, the whole system have players using lots of mana for every action except for the useless normal attacks.
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Old 2013-08-23, 04:12   Link #723
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As an aside, I don't actually want F2P games gone. I think they have a place in the market; I just wish the place wasn't the WHOLE market.

I own GW2 and I keep it around for when I feel like messing around in it. I'd probably play it more often if I had a guild, but I don't know any guilds that'd really want to have someone who plays maybe five hours a week at most.

Subscription games are the ones I play daily or nearly so, the ones I log into intending to put the time in. With ARR, I'm running an endgame Free Company and I'm in it for the long haul--so long as the microtransactions stay far, far away.
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Old 2013-08-23, 05:40   Link #724
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is it true that all the ingame items you can buy are all made by players? the worker at ebgames was telling me about it.
Also how long till early access?
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Old 2013-08-23, 06:02   Link #725
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is there anyone else here on leviathan NA who plans to do endgame on friday and saturday nights? preferably 8 mans but the bigger raids will work as well. i don't plan to take endgame super serious as i have other things to do during the weekdays.

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is it true that all the ingame items you can buy are all made by players? the worker at ebgames was telling me about it.
Also how long till early access?
early access is saturday aug 24th 2AM Pacific time (not confirmed start time but beta always started 2AM PST)
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Old 2013-08-23, 06:06   Link #726
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so 22hrs from now?
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Old 2013-08-23, 06:07   Link #727
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so 22hrs from now?
around that timeframe yeah.
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Old 2013-08-23, 06:31   Link #728
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thats perfect then, i can start downloading it then go to bed ^^
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Old 2013-08-23, 07:16   Link #729
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square enix launched the official ff xiv forums and they put a few posting limits depending on what level your character is

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post1015217
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Old 2013-08-23, 07:18   Link #730
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.............thats damn stupid!! oh well ill be using this forum for final fantasy anyway ^^
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Old 2013-08-23, 07:20   Link #731
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Not really, a little limited but it'll keep lot of people from spamming.
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Old 2013-08-23, 07:26   Link #732
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oh i forgot about those spamming bastards..........but still though a noob like me to FF mmo cant seek help in starting the game till im lvl15 seems a bit off
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Old 2013-08-23, 07:53   Link #733
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oh i forgot about those spamming bastards..........but still though a noob like me to FF mmo cant seek help in starting the game till im lvl15 seems a bit off
dun worry, it can be done in a day
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Old 2013-08-23, 11:18   Link #734
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FFXI didn't even have dedicated forums, so even a restricted forum is an improvement... considering how you look at it.

Personally I think official forums are just cesspits of inane trolling.
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Old 2013-08-23, 12:05   Link #735
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^Same, which is why I think they made it limited a bit.
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Old 2013-08-23, 13:03   Link #736
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I have to say they're starting to make me cranky with all the emails I'm getting telling me what to do with my pre-order code (including opening up the pre-order download site) but still no actual pre-order code. Blergh...
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Old 2013-08-23, 13:10   Link #737
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I have to say they're starting to make me cranky with all the emails I'm getting telling me what to do with my pre-order code (including opening up the pre-order download site) but still no actual pre-order code. Blergh...
Digital? Or physical copy?
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Old 2013-08-23, 13:14   Link #738
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Digital? Or physical copy?
I ordered a digital copy from Digital River. I have the pre-order for the silly Cait stuff, they're suppose to send me my pre-order code for the game "soon".

edit: oh, I'm an idiot (or rather, their english sucks). The Cait pre-order code is the game client early access code. Derp

Several hoop jumps later to get the actual game copy code, downloading the game (yeah, I know I could have used the beta 4 client but I had idiotically deleted that).

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Old 2013-08-23, 16:22   Link #739
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I can't patch yet. They're making me wait until launch.
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Old 2013-08-23, 17:26   Link #740
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Still downloading. Sounds like they are having handshake issues with folks authd for early access
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