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Old 2010-09-23, 02:15   Link #1101
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Just ask a question.

I was in riichi, waiting for 3-Man. Shortly after (in the same game), the opponent opposite of my an'kan 3-Man. Can I chan'kan?
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Old 2010-09-23, 02:17   Link #1102
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Nope, it only applies to Kans promoted from open pon
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Old 2010-09-23, 13:54   Link #1103
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I play on Tenhou from time to time too. Got a new id 2 days ago and it seems that it's been giving me good luck so far. However my biggest weakness in riichi mahjong is in defense; anyone has any tips to dispense regarding to that?
The hardest thing to do is: giving up tenpai to prevent from getting hit.
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Old 2010-09-24, 03:04   Link #1104
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Last Ren-chan: Pair wait on a Dora. BAM.

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Old 2010-09-24, 08:59   Link #1105
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The other two han are from a san anko. Three concealed melds. (closed meld of 2 of circles, closed meld of 5 of circles, closed meld/kan of white dragons)

Suu anko is kind of a tricky yakuman to get. If you are on a pair wait, you can either win on a tsumo or on a discard. However, if you are on a double wait waiting for you to complete the last meld, you have to win on a tsumo. The reason for this is that if you won on a discard the last meld would be an open one, thus breaking the 4 concealed melds condition.
I hate to reference old posts, but can someone please clear this up for me?

Is a meld you ron off of considered open for the purposes of counting fu? Or just open for the purposes for suu ankoo? I went on a website that randomly generates mahjong hands to help you count points, and I saw a hand that had 3 concealed triplets. The problem though was that half the hand was opened and it had only 2 closed melds. The win was off of a Ron.

This doesn't make much sense at all. :/


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OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD!
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092423g...-4884483b&tw=3

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Old 2010-09-25, 10:37   Link #1106
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Links are working again. Tenhou...you don't usually screw up like that. >_>

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I hate to reference old posts, but can someone please clear this up for me?

(1)Is a meld you ron off of considered open for the purposes of counting fu? (2)Or just open for the purposes for suu ankoo? (3)I went on a website that randomly generates mahjong hands to help you count points, and I saw a hand that had 3 concealed triplets. The problem though was that half the hand was opened and it had only 2 closed melds. The win was off of a Ron.

This doesn't make much sense at all. :/
1. Yes
2. No
3. That should be wrong. The San An Kou must be completely melded in the player's hand (i.e, the winning tile did not complete any meld to be included in the San An Kou), though it could complete the pair or fourth meld. Exceptions while seeing two 'open' melds would be if the player declared a hidden Kan, called a tile, then won off of the Pon. Once a player calls a tile, the only way to win with a San An Kou is a Ron to complete the pair, or a Tsumo to complete the final meld or the pair.
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Old 2010-09-25, 23:04   Link #1107
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092612g...1935bc104&tw=3

That was pretty fun.
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Old 2010-09-26, 01:03   Link #1108
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Pass some of that luck along, please, lol.
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Old 2010-09-28, 03:14   Link #1109
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Links are working again. Tenhou...you don't usually screw up like that. >_>



1. Yes
2. No
3. That should be wrong. The San An Kou must be completely melded in the player's hand (i.e, the winning tile did not complete any meld to be included in the San An Kou), though it could complete the pair or fourth meld. Exceptions while seeing two 'open' melds would be if the player declared a hidden Kan, called a tile, then won off of the Pon. Once a player calls a tile, the only way to win with a San An Kou is a Ron to complete the pair, or a Tsumo to complete the final meld or the pair.
Thank you so much for clearing that up for me! It will be a lot easier for me to count points in real life!

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***NEW RECORD!!!***

It is official. This has strictly been the worst game of mahjong that I have ever played in my life. I played so terrible in this game... In fact, this is the perfect guide on how NOT to play mahjong...

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092816g...-2c58e15a&tw=2

So terrible...
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Old 2010-09-28, 06:36   Link #1110
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This games hurts my eyes, I don't get how you could play so terrible, It looks as if you yourself don't know what to wanted to do. even making ryanmen machi furiten is strange for me...Please don't play like this again!!
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Old 2010-09-29, 20:35   Link #1111
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010093010g...ccb0c9199&tw=0

Easy Game. I only needed 2 hands to win
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Old 2010-09-30, 05:21   Link #1112
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Mundane game. Though things started getting interesting in the South round. Too bad one jerk left once South started.

East 4-3: Basically fed the person to my right into a Chinitsu. Then he quit once everyone else defended against it. LOL.

South 1-5: Player to my left had Chitoi the round prior. So, I tried to replicate and failed. Oh well.

South 1-6: I had dual pon waits on 2 and 8-man. I dropped 5-man. Does that make me furiten?

South 3-0: Honitsu duel. LOL.

South 4-0: Game ends with Su An Kou. What a jerk. LOL.
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Old 2010-10-01, 22:44   Link #1113
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GRRR this game...

Skim through these games and tell me what you think. I was robbed most of these, wasn't I?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100212g...-7b9f0318&tw=3

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-f0b7c0ee&tw=3

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-6feb6f47&tw=1

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AND THIS GAME:
--> http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092906g...-88ddf047&tw=1
WHAT THE HECK!? None of my completed hands hit!!! And of course, the very last hand (south 4) I had a sexy baiman - Potential Yakuman - hand to rip into 2nd or 1st and I get beat by a... trash hand!!! ARGGGG!!! Watch South 4... that pretty much sums up my games recently >.<
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Old 2010-10-02, 20:00   Link #1114
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I feel marginally better if I feel that my hand was good enough to justify it discard. Sometimes. I read somewhere though that along the lines of Tenhou fixing the games for upper dan players, someone brought up the issue of getting a hot tile to test players and then later rewarding them with a big win if they break their hand. I'm always ready to write it off as occult, but I'm halfway convinced by your games and my own experience.
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Old 2010-10-02, 20:07   Link #1115
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By the way Dasaru, regarding your discussion about suu-ankoo, here's how not to do it:


Hint: auto-win.
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Old 2010-10-03, 00:57   Link #1116
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100314g...c504cc424&tw=1

I can has horseshoe up my ass?

Tacos + Iishanten hell = GG me
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Old 2010-10-03, 05:28   Link #1117
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100314g...c504cc424&tw=1

I can has horseshoe up my ass?

Tacos + Iishanten hell = GG me
GOOD GOD...

Ok, I have no right to complain about my games when you get games like that lol.
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Old 2010-10-04, 06:00   Link #1118
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Oh! Someone pulled it off! I don't believe it! And I think it was by accident too lol!

East Round 4-2
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100419g...-c9a9c162&tw=0
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Old 2010-10-06, 00:00   Link #1119
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Oh! Someone pulled it off! I don't believe it! And I think it was by accident too lol!

East Round 4-2
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100419g...-c9a9c162&tw=0
Doesn't look like an accident, unless y'can interpret his aim for an open tanyao, which resulted in this nagashi.
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Old 2010-10-09, 14:34   Link #1120
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Mmm, I'm in the mood for a November tournament. Anyone interested (just speculative at this point).
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