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Old 2009-12-10, 11:42   Link #701
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I actually was thinking something like that also, although without the Battler = Virgilia part
Battler as Virgillia has destroyed my fragile little mind, I can never look at Lia the same way again.

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Lambda has no relation to Takano besides using her as a "piece" during her game with Bern. Higurashi and Umineko have no relations at all with eachother.
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Old 2009-12-10, 11:46   Link #702
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Quick question, what are the Umineko specials and when should I watch them? Right now Im on epi 18.
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Old 2009-12-10, 11:58   Link #703
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Lambda has no relation to Takano besides using her as a "piece" during her game with Bern. Higurashi and Umineko have no relations at all with eachother.
I understand that, but could Battler be a witch without knowing it and have used Keichi as a "piece" That might explain why Berkensteel wants to help him so much...

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Old 2009-12-10, 12:23   Link #704
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Bern helps Battler because she's bored.
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Old 2009-12-10, 12:30   Link #705
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I too feel that Battler's sin is somehow responsible for the birth/creation of Beatrice. Beatrice kept emphasizing that at the time of his sin she and Battler had not met. And since there was no immediate consequence, Battler isn't aware of it and cannot recall it, since it was probably something relatively ordinary.
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Old 2009-12-10, 12:55   Link #706
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I understand that, but could Battler be a witch without knowing it and have used Keichi as a "piece" That might explain why Berkensteel wants to help him so much...

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Old 2009-12-10, 13:55   Link #707
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Okay, Im just speculating
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Beatrice said Battler didn't know her 6 years ago, so how could he have done something to her?
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Old 2009-12-10, 14:29   Link #709
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Beatrice said Battler didn't know her 6 years ago, so how could he have done something to her?
One line of thought is that he said something that necessitated the murders on Rokkenjima. Perhaps Beato isn't all bad?
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Old 2009-12-10, 15:14   Link #710
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Quick question, what are the Umineko specials and when should I watch them? Right now Im on epi 18.
The specials are just short parody scenes from episode 1 and 2, they were included on the first DVD/Blu-ray release.
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Old 2009-12-10, 21:27   Link #711
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Beatrice said Battler didn't know her 6 years ago, so how could he have done something to her?
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The sin is not between Battler and Beatrice.

But Beatrice is a title, as EP 3 shows Virgilia once being called Beatrice before handing the name over to Beato.
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Old 2009-12-10, 21:45   Link #712
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Battler as Virgillia has destroyed my fragile little mind, I can never look at Lia the same way again.
Um...I think what rogerpepitone meant with Battler = Virgilia, was that Battler might have been the one that signed in Maria's diary and caused her to believe in witches, Sakutarou, and Mariage Sorciere stuff. Not that Battler dressed up as Virgilia or anything. But still, I don't think that would fit into the time frame. Since six years ago, Battler would be 12 and Maria would be 3. Maria recieved Sakutarou older than three years of age, and didn't remember Battler when she met up with him again, six years later at the airport.
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Old 2009-12-10, 21:47   Link #713
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Um...I think what rogerpepitone meant with Battler = Virgilia, was that Battler might have been the one that signed in Maria's diary and caused her to believe in witches, Sakutarou, and Mariage Sorciere stuff. Not that Battler dressed up as Virgilia or anything. But still, I don't think that would fit into the time frame. Since six years ago, Battler would be 12 and Maria would be 3. Maria recieved Sakutarou older than three years of age, and didn't remember Battler when she met up with him again, six years later at the airport.
Considering when we see Maria get Sakutaro I doubt she got it when she was 3. I'd say around 6 or 7. Sakutaro is gone by 1986 and Ange recalls seeing him with Maria on her last conference in 1985.
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I got the feeling that Battlers sin has something to do with his mother 0.0
sounds weird but still 0.0
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Or the sin is that he isn't really Battler...WHO KNOWS.
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Old 2009-12-13, 00:12   Link #718
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^ I was thinking that too.
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Old 2009-12-13, 00:48   Link #719
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Old 2009-12-13, 00:50   Link #720
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But the sin had something so do with Beatrice right? And his sin is what is causing the events on the island?
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