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Old 2009-10-30, 10:15   Link #821
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Beatrice herself looks like she is trapped in her own game where she is not the one pulling the main strings but Bernkastel and Lambdadelta do.
I can see where your coming from there... Im looking at it as she is in to deep. I play alot of Magic the Gathering and Im looking at this show through that light. For me it almost looks like she underestimated her opponent.

I have an opponent like Battler that I play every weekend. I never can guess what he is going to pull out of his hat and while I should most likely beat him every time we play just based on the match up, he is constantly throwing kinks in my plans. Thats how I look at Battler. This should be SOOOO easy for Beatrice to win, but Battler is giving her heck by playing cards most players wouldnt touch..

As far as Lambdelta and Bernkastel are concerned I look at them as the other competitors in the room. Some of those competitors are like Bernkastel and want to help my friend win while others are like Lambdelta asking how the heck I havent won the match yet...
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:26   Link #822
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I don't think that Bernkastel is helping Battler for his sake, but rather for her own.
She is shown emotionless up until now. I see a big bomb ticking in her where she will pull a main string in the future and reveals her true self.
Bernkastel is far more dangerous than Battler. I don't think even Beato/Beatrice can match her.
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:49   Link #823
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Oh most of the people that are cheering for my friend are doing it for there own reasons...

I do agree that Beatrice is the weakest of the witches in this story. People that are confident and full of power dont have to show it off. Its usually those without that are running there mouth the most. Beatrice is the one here having to prove she's a witch, not Virgilia Berkenstal or Lanbdelta
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Old 2009-10-30, 18:29   Link #824
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After watching 18, I think I've developed a general idea around some stuff. In fact, I've actually think that its easier to try to figure out whos NOT going around murdering people. While I do believe magic exists within this series, the actual murders are not committed with it.

Spoiler for Episode 18:

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Old 2009-10-30, 19:46   Link #825
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After watching 18, I think I've developed a general idea around some stuff. In fact, I've actually think that its easier to try to figure out whos NOT going around murdering people. While I do believe magic exists within this series, the actual murders are not committed with it.

Spoiler for Episode 18:
Spoiler for spoilers:
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Old 2009-10-30, 20:48   Link #826
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Spoiler for spoilers:
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Old 2009-11-01, 02:29   Link #827
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After watching episode 18, I have but a few things to say:

1) Battler is an idiot for any woman who knows to pull a simple manipulation trick. He almost lost again, but at least he squeaked by with an inch more space than he did in the previous arc -- and this only thanks to the new arrival. In other words, he just barely got lucky this time.

2) Beatrice isn't just a witch. Put a 'b' where the 'w' is, and you'll see my sentiments with regards to her at this point.

3) Never trust a witch in Umineko no naku koro ni. Not even one. Ever.
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Old 2009-11-01, 02:37   Link #828
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^

So true.
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Old 2009-11-01, 03:19   Link #829
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and this only thanks to the new arrival.
no, it wasn't. it's more rushed than in the novel, but if you watch closesly, it goes like that:
ANIME:
- "Battler, sign here.^^" <-still nice act and stuff.
- Battler hesitates.
- Beato and Virgilia start to nag him to sign
- goats grab him
- Battler hesitates even more
- TROLLFACES
- Battler goes WTF
- Ange comes in
Spoiler for same scene in VN:


so yeah. in both cases it's more like they threw out their act before he could sign. i don't think he would sign, even if Ange didn't appear so conveniently. ...unless the goatmen forced him to. which i wonder if still would work as him signing, they could as well just kill him and sign with his corpse or something. XD

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Old 2009-11-01, 03:24   Link #830
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3) Never trust a witch in Umineko no naku koro ni. Not even one. Ever.
Not even Ange?
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Old 2009-11-01, 03:29   Link #831
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Not even Ange?
I must've missed the part where it said Ange was a witch.

Sure her official title now may be "Ange-Beatrice" but I'm not gonna consider her a witch until I see her use some form of magic.

And no the time traveling doesn't count cause that was Bernkastel's meddling.
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Old 2009-11-01, 04:28   Link #832
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3) Never trust a witch in Umineko no naku koro ni. Not even one. Ever.
How long have I been saying this for?
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Old 2009-11-01, 04:52   Link #833
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How long have I been saying this for?
So you are saying that even nice little Bernkastel will torture Battler to death if it furthers her goals or she is getting bored?
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Old 2009-11-01, 05:09   Link #834
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So you are saying that even nice little Bernkastel will torture Battler to death if it furthers her goals or she is getting bored?
Oh, please. Where in that statement did I imply she was going to do horrible things to Battler?
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Old 2009-11-01, 07:58   Link #835
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She don't need to, after all she is supposed to be an ally for Battler, but we don't know to where she is ready to go....
If she is like the Frederica of Higurashi who is ready to suicide by stabbing herself several time in the neck...
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Old 2009-11-02, 00:08   Link #836
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Regardless of whether or not Ange could be considered a witch, I think she'd be the very first person to tell you that NO, you should not trust any witches in Umineko. No matter who they are, or what their intentions might be.
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Old 2009-11-02, 05:36   Link #837
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How long have I been saying this for?
Rejoice then, my friend, for someone is agreeing with you! ^^ Again. I've said it before as well, heh. But it bears repeating, doesn't it?
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Old 2009-11-02, 14:15   Link #838
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She don't need to, after all she is supposed to be an ally for Battler, but we don't know to where she is ready to go....
If she is like the Frederica of Higurashi who is ready to suicide by stabbing herself several time in the neck...
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Old 2009-11-02, 21:46   Link #839
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she hides it in plain sight.
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Old 2009-11-03, 09:27   Link #840
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with a well placed Ni-Pah to hide it all behind
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