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Old 2009-06-19, 03:06   Link #61
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I am not sure if I agree. Like I said earlier the way I see it Momo used 3 different Kido, 2 binding and 1 destructive in certain order and each for a specific purpoce.

Repeating my previous post
1st: 'Hakudo 31: shakkaho' : destructive force in net shape.
2nd: 'Bakudo 12: concealing fire' : hides the reatsu of Momo as well as the fiery net
3rd: 'Bakudo 26: bending light' : makes Momo & the net invisible
No actually I think it was number 12 which was the web-part of the combination, as Matsumoto stated she had never seen it in such a complicated form before
Number 26 conceals both presence and energy
And we have all seen Shakkaho many times before, and it usually did not involve net shapes
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Old 2009-06-19, 05:37   Link #62
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medigo: I know that shakkaho has always been a fireball up to now. And of course I can't prove any of the above, only KT could really tell us

I am not a manga reader, but when I watch raws I check the corresponding chapters to understand what happened.

In the ep. Momo said:
'Right. I integrated Red Fire with Concealing Fire and then made them invisible with Way of Binding No.26: Bending Light. Then I carefully spread it out over the net I'd already set up.'

In the manga she said:
'I used "Fushibi" and "Shakkaho" together. Then I covered them with Bakudo 26, "Kyakko", to conceal them. Then I carefully spread it out like a net.'

To be fair DB translation supports you, while the manga me. I really don't know who is correct.
I stuck with the manga translation because DB is well known to take liberties in translation.
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Old 2009-06-19, 07:14   Link #63
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I dont see how what the manga said disproves my theory though
Those 2 statements are pretty similar to me
*shrug*
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Old 2009-06-19, 08:01   Link #64
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Ok don't quote me on this but from the manga description Momo implies than none of the 3 Kido creates a net. The 3 Kido were given a net shape AFTER being combined.

Assuming the above is correct the way I understand what you said:
shakkaho is the destructive power
Kyakko hides reatsu and sight
Fushibi does absolutely nothing. It is just combined with shakkaho in a complicated manner, but actually does nothing. This doesn't make sense to me.
Why use a Kido if it does nothing.

If someone could give an accurate translation of 'fushibi' perhaps we could get a hint about it's use form it's name.

Also big mistake from my part in earlier posts, really sorry about it.
It is not mentioned if Fushibi if either Hakudo or Bakudo. I googled it and couldn't find an answer.
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Old 2009-06-19, 08:48   Link #65
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, same goes for gin and matsumoto...i doubt they'll fight since they've probably slept together, and as a general rule of thumb, you don't kill those whom you've slept with.

Kill Bill, Black Widow spiders...etc etc killing your lover is quite acceptable in some societies

and Matsumoto whilst a lazy beauty is all about loyalty to SS and her Captain, I see no turning for her...but for Gin, he is whipped and will do the right thing in the end (hmm that sounds weird) anyway, on with the show.
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Old 2009-06-20, 02:10   Link #66
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rofl...i couldn't agree more. im half expecting her to turn against the shinigami the moment aizen appears, same goes for gin and matsumoto...i doubt they'll fight since they've probably slept together, and as a general rule of thumb, you don't kill those whom you've slept with.

ukitake is just too much. i bet he wouldn't have fought against halibel or her fraccions either.
yep. ukitake and shunshui are two of the top 4 ftw
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Old 2009-06-20, 02:51   Link #67
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I can't find a screen cap, but was it just be or was there visible "deer"-toe

OK, I made my own cap
omg rofl cookies
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Old 2009-06-20, 04:33   Link #68
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It's a shame about her face, though...
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Old 2009-06-20, 05:36   Link #69
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Looks good to me...like the hair too. It is a cartoon...lol
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Old 2009-06-20, 16:04   Link #70
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Lool their ressurecions look stupid sometimes XD

Momo is always dumb to care about Aizen even if he's the enemy . She called him "Captain Aizen" -_- . Poor Hitsugaya , don't care about her ... GO FOR THE BIG BREASTS ! *Matsumoto* (even though she care about Gin )


If the tiger guy wasn't an arrancar but a Shinigami or else . It can be a good pairing with Soi Fon ^^
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It's a shame about her face, though...
her face is fine, its the horns i dislike the most her before release head thing was cool.
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Old 2009-06-20, 19:13   Link #72
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If the tiger guy wasn't an arrancar but a Shinigami or else . It can be a good pairing with Soi Fon ^^
Lol they sure would work great
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Old 2009-06-21, 11:15   Link #73
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im hoping Masumoto´s bankai has something to do with her breasts.....hahaha jk
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Old 2009-06-21, 22:46   Link #74
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the deer release is probably one of the least interesting releases to date. it looks like she put on some antlers and plopped on some skin tight fur suit.
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Old 2009-06-21, 23:09   Link #75
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the deer release is probably one of the least interesting releases to date. it looks like she put on some antlers and plopped on some skin tight fur suit.
im not getting the 'least interesting' part....antlers, skin tight suit, violent personality...seems nice to me
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Old 2009-06-22, 00:16   Link #76
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I can't find a screen cap, but was it just be or was there visible "deer"-toe

OK, I made my own cap


Wonderful discovery. Hooves ahoy!

Thanks to Kuroda and Ichiban Hayai for the explanation. Going by her dialogue, it looks like Hinamori laid her intricate trap way before she made her appearnce to save Matsumoto. The rest is history.
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Old 2009-06-22, 01:07   Link #77
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She is back <3 And her ability to use Kidou is still as great as always.
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Old 2009-06-22, 01:09   Link #78
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Old 2009-06-22, 08:31   Link #79
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One thing is certain...Momo learned planning and deception from Aizen, thus making her a match for those fraccion wimps.
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Old 2009-06-22, 12:58   Link #80
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I think its too soon to say that, she only had a couple traps set and now the arm monster will have its say.
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