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Old 2009-06-26, 19:55   Link #181
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I'm sure it was the same with John Lennon.
Elvis would be a better comparison. Genius, excessive living, and sadly, self-destructive behavior.

"The candle that burns twice as brite burns half as long."
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:02   Link #182
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not as sad as the Crocodile Hunter's death, but still
Saddest. Day. Ever.

Everyone dies sometime, And it's always sad.. Wasn't really a fan but gotta say Michael was a pretty cool singer
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:04   Link #183
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Elvis would be a better comparison. Genius, excessive living, and sadly, self-destructive behavior.
Oh, I was referring to the post-death mourning process by fans comparision of Jackson and Lennon, not their lifestyles. My bad.
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:06   Link #184
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Lennon and Jackson went "suddenly", hence the similar outpour of disbelief.
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:06   Link #185
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He's last album was actually Invincible in 2001, and had that movie-like music video for "You Rock My World" with Chris Tucker, Michael Madsen, and Marlon Brando. Here it is:

What's funny is that it was considered one of his least popular albums (it was considered too long), yet it still went double platinum with 10 million copies sold.
Oh gosh yeah, thanks for that, it was the similar vibe as to now
"Michael Jackson, trying to make a comeback after being away so long, has he lost his magic, etc etc"
So that makes it 8 years or so for an official release then
By then Britney and the rest had popped about, so that generation shift in pop music had already begun...
If 8 years for his last album, was it his official concerts that they were counting 10+ years then?

And yeah his sales weren't as good as "thriller" or the other albums, but it's as one BBC correspondent said:
Music Industry is so fragmented now, people pirate or copy things from the internet, there'll never be a sale as high as thriller when we only had LP's and cassettes to go by.

Ironically the link about Japan suddenly buying his stuff yesterday upon news means that like Tupac and other late artists, his stuff will sell like hotcakes for a long long while.

I liked that video with Chris Tucker though, wasn't quite the same as "Smooth criminal" with the gangs and stuff, but just as fun <3
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:29   Link #186
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Oh, I was referring to the post-death mourning process by fans comparision of Jackson and Lennon, not their lifestyles. My bad.
Oh, sorry... I'm probably the one who misunderstood.

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Lennon and Jackson went "suddenly", hence the similar outpour of disbelief.
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/news..._of_rock.shtml

*just posting the first thing that comes up with an "Elvis/death/shocking" search*

I clearly remember the day Elvis died. I heard about it from a taxi driver after getting picked up at Sea-Tac airport. It was totally unbelievable and shocking. I thought he was joking.
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Old 2009-06-26, 20:36   Link #187
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Actually, I wasn't that surprised after I sat down and thought about it. He is 50, and been in decline musically for more than a decade. Health-wise, he has never been the most robust of people, and the stress caused by his troubles and the upcoming concerts just nailed it, it seems.

Elvis had been in decline for some time before his death, and he drank. Heavily, if my memory serves me.
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Old 2009-06-26, 21:57   Link #188
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I have just calmed down a little after some sleep, eyes stil sore from crying alot last night. Lighting some candles for Mike while playing his songs. Half way around the globe there are people thinking of him.
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Old 2009-06-26, 22:43   Link #189
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I agree, but what he did was not right. Now when unanimously people around the world agree that when and where a wrong is wrong, I shouldn't be waiting for that backlash to his conscience. Yes, by passivity, it is allowing no will to do good.

But if he should say something that leans on that subject - Michael's controversies - I ought he had shown moderation in his speech, so that it can be obvious to discern his points.

Sorry for the trouble sir. Just to regulate the behavior here. And thanks for sharing thoughts too.
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Old 2009-06-26, 22:48   Link #190
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It's a wierd thought, but I imagine the guy moonwalking his way to musical heaven, where other greats like Bob Marley, Elvis and John Lennon wait for him.

I can imagine he looks just like he did in Thriller. Red jacket and everything.
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Old 2009-06-26, 23:08   Link #191
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It's a wierd thought, but I imagine the guy moonwalking his way to musical heaven, where other greats like Bob Marley, Elvis and John Lennon wait for him.
Give me five Elvis!!
On the side Hendrix!!
Up High Lenon!!
Down Low Marley.... too slow!!

Wow, gotta work on the fanart of the Angels of Music now!!

Mr Jackson in center, of course.
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Old 2009-06-27, 00:01   Link #192
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MJ was most likely the "Last Superstar".

Diversification of interests in entertainment has progressed so much in the past few decades, the old fashioned "Superstar" recognized by the vast majority has become nigh-impossible to achieve.
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Old 2009-06-27, 00:16   Link #193
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^ - I concur.
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Old 2009-06-27, 01:21   Link #194
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Here's something a friend of mine pointed out.
"Try wrapping your brain around the idea that Keith Richards was born before Michael Jackson and is still around post-Michael."

My riposte was that "Keith Richards has always been one of the undead... whereas Michael only played one in a video".


(its always been a "running gag" that Richards actually died in the 1960s but was too stoned to notice... and his appearance only seems to add weight to the joke)
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Old 2009-06-27, 01:23   Link #195
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Oh, him of Rolling Stones fame. Undead is the right word, alright.
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Old 2009-06-27, 05:20   Link #196
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What's funny is that it was considered one of his least popular albums (it was considered too long), yet it still went double platinum with 10 million copies sold.
Well you've got to realize that a massive flop for Michael Jackson is like 1 million copies sold. That's the level of stardom he had.
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Old 2009-06-27, 05:24   Link #197
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It's a wierd thought, but I imagine the guy moonwalking his way to musical heaven, where other greats like Bob Marley, Elvis and John Lennon, Freddy Mercury wait for him.

I can imagine he looks just like he did in Thriller. Red jacket and everything.
Fixed. 8)

And yeah, Michael was one in a billion. When you say pop-music, it is like saying Michael and all the others. He was simply the best in whatever he was doing. One man's show.
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Old 2009-06-27, 05:55   Link #198
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MJ on himself~

Audio slideshow: Michael Jackson - man and music
Fans and contemporaries have been paying tribute to the king of pop - who has died at the age of 50. But what did Michael Jackson think of his own life and career?

Here - with the help of his music, and archive images from the days of the Jackson Five to the present - he reflects on his own vulnerabilities.

Link

As for other news surrounding him:
MJ BBC Homepage
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Old 2009-06-27, 05:55   Link #199
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Michael Jackson was the best. Now excuse me while I go listen to "Human Nature" and "Beat It".
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Old 2009-06-27, 07:34   Link #200
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I wonder who will be the next artist that will be like him. Well known, multi-talented and an electrifying performer.

There will be another probably, but there is only "ONE MICHEAL JACKSON".

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