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Old 2009-08-29, 18:47   Link #361
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and this just in... his death was ruled a homicide
So I heard, talk about a way to make more money and not let his kids rest and learn to survive to live without their prominent parent.
Princess Diana, round 2, that went on for 10 years before they officially ruled it in court that her death was not foul play.
(Though, few of us still beleive that though.)
What it did do is drag up every, single floorboard of her life and more 'exposed secrets', and I just felt sorry for her kids having to grow up with it until they were old enough a decade later to hold their own press conference and more or less tell the media to 'piss off already, none of it brings their mother back.'

Ironically, I don't believe it was outright murder a mere 17 days before his concert was to begin, at least not outright intention to end his life, hence I won't be following it all, my bet's on a headhunt tbh, Dilla.

The papers will milk it for what it's worth, more lame ass thoeries will spout, his father will probably be at the head of the brainless mob and demand someone's blood.
None of it will bring him back, thus I'm tuning out media wise and focusing on his music, fans and potential good times.

He left us something to dance and smile about for years to come, not to obsess over his passing or focus on general negativity.
That was something I remembered yesterday at the club, so gonna keep that memory with me to get on by with
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Old 2009-08-29, 18:59   Link #362
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In Princess D's case, the princes were almost certain to have a life full of exposure because of who they were, and not just because of their mother. Now, I remember Harry more for that trip to Afghanistan which was abandoned than anything else. As for Andrew, what's the fellow up to anyway nowadays?
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Old 2009-08-29, 22:36   Link #363
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What's a homicide?
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Old 2009-08-29, 22:42   Link #364
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At least he converted to Islam like he wanted and his brother jermaine wanted him to before he died

what so he's a Moslem?
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Old 2009-08-29, 22:45   Link #365
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What's a homicide?
Seriously?

It's murder.
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Old 2009-08-29, 22:52   Link #366
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Seriously?

It's murder.
Thanks, just making sure. So my "intuition" that it was a suicide was false after all---i feel like a loser. So the doctor is in jail?
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Old 2009-08-29, 23:39   Link #367
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In Princess D's case, the princes were almost certain to have a life full of exposure because of who they were, and not just because of their mother. Now, I remember Harry more for that trip to Afghanistan which was abandoned than anything else. As for Andrew, what's the fellow up to anyway nowadays?
Only on special instances like their birthdays or going to uni and so on. William was about Paris' age when Diana died, so the media didn't really have much to write bout them as kids (besides that's not where the smell of money flows)
The royals for most part have their privacy short of being clever and smoking weed (go harry, lol)
Scandals attract media faster than the speed of light, but they were haunted by the ghost of their mother by no other than by people who didn't know her, 10 years of your youth is a damn long time to put things to rest, methinks even Lisa Presley didn't get this amount of crap on her while she grew up after Elvis died :/

Methinks if the doc was at fault, the first couple of autopsies would have found instant foul play, but to prolong and have it pushed and not 'sastified' at the initial result, just reeks of a manhunt to be honest. *sighs*
(we must blame someone~)

PS: As for Andrew, noooo idea. If they're not getting divorced, married or something that sparks a scandal, the media couldn't care less
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Old 2009-08-30, 03:10   Link #368
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Methinks if the doc was at fault, the first couple of autopsies would have found instant foul play, but to prolong and have it pushed and not 'sastified' at the initial result, just reeks of a manhunt to be honest. *sighs*
(we must blame someone~)
well...accidents are brought by carelessness..so someone has to be blamed.

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Old 2009-08-30, 17:35   Link #369
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Seriously?

It's murder.
dude don't spoon feed him!

next time go to google, type
"define: homocide" (without quotation marks)
and it will give you the definition(s)

I wonder if anyone here knows this featyure...
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Old 2009-08-30, 19:43   Link #370
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Only on special instances like their birthdays or going to uni and so on. William was about Paris' age when Diana died, so the media didn't really have much to write bout them as kids (besides that's not where the smell of money flows)
The royals for most part have their privacy short of being clever and smoking weed (go harry, lol)
Scandals attract media faster than the speed of light, but they were haunted by the ghost of their mother by no other than by people who didn't know her, 10 years of your youth is a damn long time to put things to rest, methinks even Lisa Presley didn't get this amount of crap on her while she grew up after Elvis died :/

Methinks if the doc was at fault, the first couple of autopsies would have found instant foul play, but to prolong and have it pushed and not 'sastified' at the initial result, just reeks of a manhunt to be honest. *sighs*
(we must blame someone~)

PS: As for Andrew, noooo idea. If they're not getting divorced, married or something that sparks a scandal, the media couldn't care less
You know: I was reminded of Ted Kennedy, who also died recently. He too had some hauntings of his own, and guess what? He managed to get out of it by being himself.

Beyond the myths, Princess D, JFK and RFK all had something in common. For all their good work, we forget that they have weaknesses. They are human and so are not perfect. Perhaps, that is something we should remember about MJ as well.
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Old 2009-08-31, 05:48   Link #371
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For the record, homicide isn't necessarily murder. It's a broad term covering murder, manslaughter, death by negligence, etc. Basically anything you do that causes another person to die, whether deliberate or not. So nobody has said (yet) that MJ was deliberately murdered.
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Old 2009-08-31, 17:10   Link #372
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You know: I was reminded of Ted Kennedy, who also died recently. He too had some hauntings of his own, and guess what? He managed to get out of it by being himself.

Beyond the myths, Princess D, JFK and RFK all had something in common. For all their good work, we forget that they have weaknesses. They are human and so are not perfect. Perhaps, that is something we should remember about MJ as well.
Bout MJ? How could we forget?
Half his number 1 tunes are targeted towards the media who did nothing but shred him to pieces, not bout his work, but him.
Thus you have haters and lovers.
The idol aspect, purely comes from his art, Diana and JFK, from their actions. By hauntings, I'm talking about his kids and not laying someone's memory to rest part death.
The dead are dead, it's the living who has to deal with the aftermath, and while no one is perfect, don't you think a child/wife/hubby have more rights and more knowledge about that, than the media who mercilessly attacked and hounded your relatives?

2 months down the line 'oh wait.. it's homicide!'
They should let it go.
Tupac got murdered, but geee they sure left that alone pretty fast instead of actually implicating someone. -.-
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Old 2009-09-01, 09:45   Link #373
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Tupac has a minor case of the Elvis syndrome.

What relatives see of celebrities is but one side of the person. It's a private side, but still, it's one side. It's when you try to put the many sides together and get your own conclusions that you go, "...I need more readings/sources." After reading some snippets of how the Kennedy brothers' father viewed his sons, you get a sense that you have here an ambitious father who wanted a dynasty, but was instead left with attending funerals of his sons. The only son he didn't live to bury was Ted.

Sorry, talking shop here. Once a history student, always a history student.

So, for MJ's case, when the kids get older, they would want to find out the things that Daddy didn't tell them about. They are home-schooled, so I don't know how they are going to develop their social skills.
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Old 2009-09-01, 10:27   Link #374
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Old 2009-09-14, 21:50   Link #375
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Tupac has a minor case of the Elvis syndrome.

What relatives see of celebrities is but one side of the person. It's a private side, but still, it's one side. It's when you try to put the many sides together and get your own conclusions that you go, "...I need more readings/sources." After reading some snippets of how the Kennedy brothers' father viewed his sons, you get a sense that you have here an ambitious father who wanted a dynasty, but was instead left with attending funerals of his sons. The only son he didn't live to bury was Ted.

Sorry, talking shop here. Once a history student, always a history student.

So, for MJ's case, when the kids get older, they would want to find out the things that Daddy didn't tell them about. They are home-schooled, so I don't know how they are going to develop their social skills.
I know some home schooled peeps who'd attack you for that, their social skills (mix of getting part time jobs too) far surpass those who go through the regular education system and are shut ins regardless with zero social skills, refusing to get over their shyness to interact with people around them.
Depends on the environment they're now going to be raised in anyways.

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This is it movie to be released globally on Oct 28th for 2 weeks only.
Trailer, ticket bookings (there are national website links on the page) and the chance to be part of a moasic (submit your picture to the website) all included in here, ofc latest news too
http://thisisit-movie.com/



Simply a behind the scenes of the set up 17 days before his first performance in London, but hell it's magical, music time, I'm up for checking it as long as people are prepared to sing and dance in the cinema xD
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Old 2009-09-14, 22:33   Link #376
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Looks amazing, have to see it when it hits theaters.
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Old 2009-09-15, 09:17   Link #377
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I know some home schooled peeps who'd attack you for that, their social skills (mix of getting part time jobs too) far surpass those who go through the regular education system and are shut ins regardless with zero social skills, refusing to get over their shyness to interact with people around them.
Depends on the environment they're now going to be raised in anyways.
Both groups are just too big for an easy generalisation. Same goes for most things, really. Stereotypes are a rule of thumb. They are never 100% or 0% true.
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Old 2009-09-15, 20:55   Link #378
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Both groups are just too big for an easy generalisation. Same goes for most things, really. Stereotypes are a rule of thumb. They are never 100% or 0% true.
Well that's a given, so to use them to make a quick statement which encompasses a mass number is fine.
To use it to back up your thoughts is asking for trouble
'They're homeschooled so you don't know how they're gonna develop their social skills';
On what basis have you seen that they lack any anyways.
A lot of celeb kids have private tutors and lessons within their homes, some go to private schools and so on, but it stems from their upbringing and their own character to want to interact with people, or be curious about to explore and investigate, regardless of being homeschooled or put though the education system.
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I was feeling mischievious enough to nit pick ya, it's been a while since I've been active on Asuki, so lurking bout the GC forums again, looking for tempting openings
Feel free to stalk my profile wall though if you wanna continue, I should be able to accomodate you ^^
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Old 2009-09-16, 18:48   Link #379
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Well, home schooling always gave me an elitist feel, as if these kids do not want to mix around with others outside their usual social circle. As for MJ himself, I don't think that he is elitist, but......

Anyway, looking forward to next year's memorial concert. Now, that show will go on.
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Old 2009-09-18, 01:32   Link #380
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This is moving. The whole world is dancing to MJ as a tribute.

Stockholm


Monstreal


Seatle


Hong Kong


Singapore


Hollywood


Romania


Sydney


Korea


Paris


there are more...

How can you not move by this. I know. I can't find one from Japan..
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