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Old 2010-11-15, 22:53   Link #2421
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Old 2010-11-16, 00:09   Link #2422
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Old 2010-11-16, 04:39   Link #2423
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Old 2010-11-16, 07:53   Link #2424
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Why? Kaijo isn't talking about anything spoilerific from this weeks episode. Just his/her opinion on a character.

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Old 2010-11-16, 08:23   Link #2425
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very tempting, very tempting!! but I'm gonna wait for 55 and watch ep 54 and 55 together.
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Old 2010-11-16, 08:58   Link #2426
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Well i think it's quite possible for Jellal to actually save Wendy before, after all he actually kind guy, just taken control by evilness.
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Old 2010-11-16, 11:25   Link #2427
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Well, whenever Jellal is involved, it brings out the most from Erza too. ( for better or worse, some people don't like how she has that attachment to that abusive boyfriend syndrome of a guy. )

Simon must be rolling in his grave.
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Old 2010-11-16, 11:31   Link #2428
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I would have thought so too if I haven't seen the credits. Jellal/Mystogan in the credits is also at the very young age and if Jellal was trapped in that tower there was no way he could have been out and venturing on his own...
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This is my theory anyway.
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Old 2010-11-16, 11:41   Link #2429
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Well, whenever Jellal is involved, it brings out the most from Erza too. ( for better or worse, some people don't like how she has that attachment to that abusive boyfriend syndrome of a guy. )
I for one like it a lot. As you've just said, it brings out a lot more of Erza's character, stopping her from just being the same all the time. It's why i'd say her backstory arc is the best Fairy Tail has to offer.
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Old 2010-11-16, 11:51   Link #2430
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Well, let's not forget that Jellal had his avatar, Sieglain to do a lot of the 'off-tower' wet works. Sieglain must have existed for a decent amount of time since he was trusted and established enough to both be a member of the 10 Great Mages as well as the Mage Council.

On the other hand, Wendy did call Jellal 'Jellal' so it's not like she knew him as a former member of 'Weekly Sorceror's Worst Guys I'd Like as My Boyfriend.'

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I for one like it a lot. As you've just said, it brings out a lot more of Erza's character, stopping her from just being the same all the time. It's why i'd say her backstory arc is the best Fairy Tail has to offer.
Indeed. It helps that I'm a shipper as well as a sucker for these kind of tragic scenarios, but really, it's refreshing to see Erza get so emotionally choked and it usually builds up to a stronger amount of emotional outpour. ( both good and bad )
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Old 2010-11-16, 13:56   Link #2431
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I'd say it's more like someone trying to save someone who was a friend. Jellal was initially good, until he was twisted by Ultear. It's not clear Erza has romantic feelings for him, and she does have a link to him from when he was good. So I don't put Jellal as an abusive boyfriend, per se, since it's not as much his fault and Erza isn't being stupid. She was very well prepared to end his life when she thought he was bad, and the only reason she didn't, was she though Etherion would kill them both.
It was an analogy, not a literal use of the word.

The point I was trying to get across is that, despite everything, Erza never 'hated' Jellal. Disgusted at him, prepared to kill him, angry at him, many things, but not 'hate.' In the end, she believed that she lived because Jellal, removed from the control of Zeref saved her. How optimistic... and I think that Jellal being alive here pretty much means that the voice she heard at the end of Tower of Paradise was her own delusions. And there's her reaction when she first saw Mystogan's true face. A turmoil of emotions, but it was pretty clear that it was more positive than negative.

Erza Scarlet cannot be disassociated from Jellal Fernandes. She holds dear to that small childhood memory of a young, charismatic boy, and despite the rough waters she had with Sieglain ( never a good relationship there, either ) and all the suffering Jellal caused, she could never hate him... Yup, pretty much similar to shoujo or tv-drama's 'abusive boyfriend' cliche. ( not literally, but similar. )

At least that's how I feel anyway. This write-up is more appropriate for the Erza thread.
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Old 2010-11-16, 14:56   Link #2432
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Finally i caught up with fairy tail anime.
Watched 53 episodes in 2,5 weeks, its too good
Lucky for me i stumbled on this by accident and i loved it right from the start
Good action with humor in it,a lot of possibilities and a great range of characters.
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Old 2010-11-16, 20:35   Link #2433
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I'm not excited about Jellal just because his presences messes up Erza so badly. It's fine to have her emotional and showing more sides of herself. But mostly she freezes up in shock and mixed emotions and gets beaten up. Hardly prime Erza material. She's having enough troubles with the poison and this huge fight against the Dark Guilds without getting extremely distracted. Will have to see how it goes.
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Old 2010-11-16, 22:43   Link #2434
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Old 2010-11-17, 01:59   Link #2435
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Why? Kaijo isn't talking about anything spoilerific from this weeks episode. Just his/her opinion on a character.
It's a spoiler for the arc that
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Old 2010-11-17, 02:51   Link #2436
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I think the more pertinent question on this whole Jellel/Mystogan with Wendy issue is, "how does brain know about Wendy's relationship with Jellel/Mystogan in the first place?" I doubt they were going to broadcast their encounter, unless it was a hugely public event. I hope they will at least answer that.
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Old 2010-11-17, 04:46   Link #2437
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But mostly she freezes up in shock and mixed emotions
Can you hardly blame her? Still it's not like it's going to happen every time Jellal makes an appearance, so have some faith in her.
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Old 2010-11-17, 05:10   Link #2438
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Can you hardly blame her? Still it's not like it's going to happen every time Jellal makes an appearance, so have some faith in her.
You're not being very convincing, since it had happened every time a Jellal-related issue comes crashing onto her face-first. Your reply would be more apt if you said "It's not like Jellal makes an appearance every time in Fairy Tail."

I don't see what's so bad. In almost every arc, we're treated to heavy doses of Erza's strictness, maturity, light, jovial humour, bright positive interactions with the group... pretty much all the things that make Erza 'Erza.'

A little bit of Jellal in her life every now and then to further fuel her character development and put her through irregular motions should be exciting to viewers, not the other way round. Just so long it's productive to her character development.

E.g. I thought it was a nice touch when Erza corrected Yajima's naming error on Jellal.
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Old 2010-11-17, 05:36   Link #2439
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Your reply would be more apt if you said "It's not like Jellal makes an appearance every time in Fairy Tail."
That would be lying though.

& what i said was just something mild. I don't want to get into the topic. Instead just let this arc takes it's course, and let the anime only watchers enjoy it.
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Old 2010-11-17, 15:31   Link #2440
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Can you hardly blame her? Still it's not like it's going to happen every time Jellal makes an appearance, so have some faith in her.
I'm not really blaming her it's just why I don't like Jellal showing up. The man kills Erza's momentum . As soon as she breaks her current streak I'll be less bothered by that guy.
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