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Old 2012-05-12, 12:28   Link #4581
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Looks like I get the answer to my *where has Gildarts been?* question from earlier in the next episode. yey.
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:37   Link #4582
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The action and comedy mix was good. Villains came across as a bit too OP, considering how they beat a large percentage of the guild easily. I know they have to establish them as a threat, but...
Well i think everyone has to remember a few things:

1. Look who was fighting them. A lot of powerful mages like Gray, Erza, Juvia, Cana, and Gajeel were missing. And the Tenroujima folks are still a bit rusty.

2. They didn't know anything about these guys or how their powers worked.

3. Not really too you, but people are surprised that the Earthland folks are stronger than their Edolas versions, but it's not shocking. In Edolas, their magic was limited and no one had innate magic ability. Plus the counterparts can have different levels of power.
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:53   Link #4583
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Great episode! The fight managed to unfold without making too many people look bad, aside from Lily and Mirajane, who should've been able to do more against the slime.

Mary Hughes's power is cheap as hell; It's like Voodoo without the hair requirement.
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Old 2012-05-13, 17:40   Link #4584
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Great episode! The fight managed to unfold without making too many people look bad, aside from Lily and Mirajane, who should've been able to do more against the slime.

Mary Hughes's power is cheap as hell; It's like Voodoo without the hair requirement.
Yhep, I too thought that Mary Hughes's power is way too overpowered. I hope there's some sort of condition to her using it otherwise I can predict some sort of plot device used to beat her and cheapen up the entire thing.

Btw I've been thinking this for a bit but this episode reminded me of this: are we 100% sure Michelle is who she says she his? I mean she did know about two of the Lucy spirits that she didn't recall telling her about and I think we had some similar things happens before with her. Maybe she's a magical entity that's passing as Lucy's cousin or maybe she's just pretending like Mest/Doranbolt did back on the S-Class arc.

Oh well, I get the feeling I'm just over thinking this and they're just throwing in these moments of Lucy forgetting saying something as a running gag and nothing major.
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Old 2012-05-13, 21:21   Link #4585
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Yhep, I too thought that Mary Hughes's power is way too overpowered. I hope there's some sort of condition to her using it otherwise I can predict some sort of plot device used to beat her and cheapen up the entire thing.

Btw I've been thinking this for a bit but this episode reminded me of this: are we 100% sure Michelle is who she says she his? I mean she did know about two of the Lucy spirits that she didn't recall telling her about and I think we had some similar things happens before with her. Maybe she's a magical entity that's passing as Lucy's cousin or maybe she's just pretending like Mest/Doranbolt did back on the S-Class arc.

Oh well, I get the feeling I'm just over thinking this and they're just throwing in these moments of Lucy forgetting saying something as a running gag and nothing major.
Actually, no we aren't 100% sure that Michelle is who she says she is. Laki's research turned up a Lobster family that had close ties to the Heartfilia family, most of whom were dead. Thus making Michelle's story of being a relative that had been working with Jude plausible. The problem, presumably because they were trying to be discrete, is that they don't seem to have gotten confirmation from anyone at Love & Lucky that Jude Heartfilia had an assistant named Michelle Lobster who was a relative of his.

And as they were discussing her being a survivor of the incident that killed her family, the scene switched to the investigation of one of the church attacks. Where the building was corroded, there was an unidentified body inside, and the only priest for the church had been away during the attack, and said no one should have been inside.

And while it's entirely plausible for Lucy to have mentioned the spirits she had at some point and forgotten about it, the ones Michelle listed were "the goat, Aquarius, and the crab". It could be mere coincidence, but those three spirits are the ones that originally belonged to Lucy's mother.

Michelle also was said not to talk much about herself.

So on the whole, there's plenty to be suspicious of.

A running gag would be someone asking Michelle if she needs a tissue every time she cries.
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Old 2012-05-14, 00:52   Link #4586
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Yhep, I too thought that Mary Hughes's power is way too overpowered. I hope there's some sort of condition to her using it otherwise I can predict some sort of plot device used to beat her and cheapen up the entire thing.
Here's my hypothesis: her Command Magic doesn't make her targets move to her will, but rather against to their own wills. If they try to attack her, they attack someone else or themselves. But if they were to attack themselves or their friends, then maybe they'd end up attacking her or her companions. Because there'd a possibility for the target to move in ways the commander doesn't will, it wouldn't be as powerful as Kain Hikaru's magic. In fact, if they find any way to make it so that they can resist the user's will, I'll be able to swallow it better because Hikaru's would clearly be the superior magic in that case.

But in any case, this magic clearly doesn't seem to have the added benefit of changing the target's attributes to other things such as iron or cotton. So it wouldn't be quite as effective as Hikaru's magic even in the even that Hughes really is in complete control.
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Old 2012-05-14, 10:23   Link #4587
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Here's my hypothesis: her Command Magic doesn't make her targets move to her will, but rather against to their own wills. If they try to attack her, they attack someone else or themselves. But if they were to attack themselves or their friends, then maybe they'd end up attacking her or her companions. Because there'd a possibility for the target to move in ways the commander doesn't will, it wouldn't be as powerful as Kain Hikaru's magic. In fact, if they find any way to make it so that they can resist the user's will, I'll be able to swallow it better because Hikaru's would clearly be the superior magic in that case.

But in any case, this magic clearly doesn't seem to have the added benefit of changing the target's attributes to other things such as iron or cotton. So it wouldn't be quite as effective as Hikaru's magic even in the even that Hughes really is in complete control.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it doesn't make the target move against their will, otherwise she wouldn't be able to have Michelle walk of a cliff like she did.

We really need to see more of it to determine it's weaknesses. Thus far she doesn't seem to be able to use it on the environment (which is what Edoras's Hughes magic did), just on people and possibly their magic. For all that she's mentioned a couple times that she can control multiple people with it, she hasn't controlled multiple people yet. So either she can't actually control more than one, or the more people she controls, the more difficult it is to maintain control.
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Old 2012-05-14, 18:22   Link #4588
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It was another exciting episode, except we've all seen this before. The guild gets beat up by a new group for reasons that will totally be reversed later on. Also, the thing that bugged me the most was that Lucy refused to use her powers right away from the start. She was not even putting up a fight, which is very uncharacteristic of her.

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No Gray, Juvia,Cana, or Erza. or Master or Gajeel. Hope they come in later. I feel like Gray can freeze Sugarboys sutff.
However, with the same train of thought, Natsu should be able to burn and melt Sugarboy's stuff. I felt that the current members at the fight should have been adequate to hold off the attack, but they had to lose for plot's sake.

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And while it's entirely plausible for Lucy to have mentioned the spirits she had at some point and forgotten about it, the ones Michelle listed were "the goat, Aquarius, and the crab". It could be mere coincidence, but those three spirits are the ones that originally belonged to Lucy's mother.
You bring up some interesting points. The goat, especially, is new to Lucy, so it would have been impossible for Lucy to mention him to Michelle years ago. There is definitely more of a connection with Lucy's mom than we are led to believe.
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Old 2012-05-14, 21:07   Link #4589
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It was another exciting episode, except we've all seen this before. The guild gets beat up by a new group for reasons that will totally be reversed later on. Also, the thing that bugged me the most was that Lucy refused to use her powers right away from the start. She was not even putting up a fight, which is very uncharacteristic of her.



However, with the same train of thought, Natsu should be able to burn and melt Sugarboy's stuff. I felt that the current members at the fight should have been adequate to hold off the attack, but they had to lose for plot's sake.
1. She didn't use her powers from the start since that would give away who she was. Remember they were trying to not have the real Lucy singled out. Even at the end Mary Hughes didn't know which one was real, so she'd take one down at a time.

2. Not necessarily. There are substances that will freeze but take a while to burn if they burn at all. Well we'll find out in the next episode i guess.
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Old 2012-05-14, 21:39   Link #4590
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1. She didn't use her powers from the start since that would give away who she was. Remember they were trying to not have the real Lucy singled out. Even at the end Mary Hughes didn't know which one was real, so she'd take one down at a time.

2. Not necessarily. There are substances that will freeze but take a while to burn if they burn at all. Well we'll find out in the next episode i guess.
1) Lucy did not know that they knew she was a celestial user. All she knew was that they were looking for Lucy, but apparently seemed like they knew nothing about her. It was much, much later in the battle when they proclaimed that she was a celestial user. Hence, it did not make sense for her not to participate in the battle right away. Also, what if her participation was the difference maker? She does not back away from helping defend the guild, so this was absolutely out of place.

2) We don't really know, since the fire never reached the substance. Also, Grey will have the same problem as Natsu with the conductor magic.
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Old 2012-05-17, 01:08   Link #4591
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got to see other faily tail mages in action other than the usual ones, the episode was good and looks like the plot is starting to speed up
some comedy moments in the episode were too good like huges being a woman ,and romeo's stinky flame........
they were keeping the action off for sometime , but now filled this episode with all the action,
the earthland byro looks pretty powerfull and gildarts is also coming , we might get to see some heavy action in the next episode
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Old 2012-05-17, 13:07   Link #4592
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he guys I'm new here

I am currently at episode 53 I want to Ask about Gray After what happened in the Fighting Festival Arc I'm concerned that he is Turning into the Yamcha of the team What I mean the character that always geting his ass kicked to show how the enemy is Dangerous
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Old 2012-05-17, 13:19   Link #4593
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1) Lucy did not know that they knew she was a celestial user. All she knew was that they were looking for Lucy, but apparently seemed like they knew nothing about her. It was much, much later in the battle when they proclaimed that she was a celestial user. Hence, it did not make sense for her not to participate in the battle right away. Also, what if her participation was the difference maker? She does not back away from helping defend the guild, so this was absolutely out of place.

2) We don't really know, since the fire never reached the substance. Also, Grey will have the same problem as Natsu with the conductor magic.
I don't really get what you're saying. Well, yes i do, but it's just as circumstantial as mine might me. I guess you're saying that since Lucy didn't know that they didn't know she was s celestial mage at the start she could have fought. But on the other hand, i easily can see her logic. If people come to my home looking for me in a hostile way, i would assume they might know things about me. Lucy kept herself pretty hidden until she was about to fight. I see what you're saying, but i understand her logic and why she did what she did. I found it more human and fitting. But we'll see this week what happens, since she does fight Mary in it.

And for #2, that's what i was saying.

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I am currently at episode 53 I want to Ask about Gray After what happened in the Fighting Festival Arc I'm concerned that he is Turning into the Yamcha of the team What I mean the character that always geting his ass kicked to show how the enemy is Dangerous
Ehh I'd say you wouldn't have much to worry about. Some of his fights later on are pretty good, quite a few actually.

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Old 2012-05-17, 13:31   Link #4594
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Ehh I'd say you wouldn't have much to worry about. Some of his fights later on are pretty good, quite a few actually.

And welcome here =]
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Thanks for the welcome I started reading the Thread from page 1 I love reading what members think after ending Watching the episode

At first I was hesitant to join because everyone was complaining dam it
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Old 2012-05-17, 13:43   Link #4595
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Thanks for the welcome I started reading the Thread from page 1 I love reading what members think after ending Watching the episode

At first I was hesitant to join because everyone was complaining dam it

This sight is, in my experience, better than other ones. One manga probably has the biggest one i know of, it's folks can be all over the place. Fairytail base is good, but there are some people who all they do is complain. Fairy law.net is one too, but no one ever goes there, so this is my preferred forum. It just could use more people.

But umm since there is only a general anime thread, you may be spoiled a bit. You're on episode 53 and episode 131 airs this week lol
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he guys I'm new here

I am currently at episode 53 I want to Ask about Gray After what happened in the Fighting Festival Arc I'm concerned that he is Turning into the Yamcha of the team What I mean the character that always geting his ass kicked to show how the enemy is Dangerous
Gray is certainly not someone who's ass will be kicked that easily, he is one of the strongest members of the guild,
ans as sergel02 said his fights gets better as the series progresses
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This sight is, in my experience, better than other ones. One manga probably has the biggest one i know of, it's folks can be all over the place. Fairytail base is good, but there are some people who all they do is complain. Fairy law.net is one too, but no one ever goes there, so this is my preferred forum. It just could use more people.

But umm since there is only a general anime thread, you may be spoiled a bit. You're on episode 53 and episode 131 airs this week lol
Do not worry I do not have a problem with being spoiled Knowing what will happen does not prevent me from enjoying
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Old 2012-05-17, 14:21   Link #4598
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Do not worry I do not have a problem with being spoiled Knowing what will happen does not prevent me from enjoying
lol that's like me. Most of the spoilers won't make sense anyway. Do you read the manga too?
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lol that's like me. Most of the spoilers won't make sense anyway. Do you read the manga too?
no i am a anime guy I prefer my characters with movement, sound and color


about Taurus, "The Golden Bull I am fully convinced that Sanji from One Piece after his death was reborn as a bull


about Gray Habit With clothes i have the same habit, but I swear I just do it in my house
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no i am a anime guy I prefer my characters with movement, sound and color


about Taurus, "The Golden Bull I am fully convinced that Sanji from One Piece after his death was reborn as a bull


about Gray Habit With clothes i have the same habit, but I swear I just do it in my house

lol that's good. I'm like that too, i feel like the sound and voices add a ton to the story and feel. Plus, the anime elaborates on things not in the manga, like there was a fight Levy and Cana took part in that wasn't in the manga at all. Sometimes there are complete arcs only in the anime that give some nice back story.
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