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Old 2009-06-29, 09:54   Link #81
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As if I would repeat the first Nanjo statement

-Nanjo inspected teh first six bodies
-The parents discussed the inheritance in some kinda away after dinner
-There are two keys


At 14:00 Battler just couldn't stand it anymore (that bott parted from them), also they wanted to have lunch soon
Kanon was locked as well
The second key is hold by Genji


Both theories are wrong due reasoning and stuff. The reason for the Rosa theory is really made up out of thin air and who said that he was only angry with George?

George and Sayo had no sexual intercourse on the forth or fifth october

And I'll give you a hint
George and Kanon dislike each other
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Old 2009-06-29, 10:29   Link #82
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Kanon hates George but why!

Repeat in red:
-The two magic circles (1st and 2nd) were circles Maria was able to recognize.
-George and Sayo chained the door.
-George and Sayo opened the door before they were killed.

Kinzo left his study and possibly attended the meeting. In this scenario Kinzo seems more sane and it possibly explains why Kinzo's body is in the dining room.

Kanon stole Battler's key then later on obtained the other key. I doubt it would take him an hour to walk to the boiler room if he already had both keys.
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Old 2009-06-29, 10:38   Link #83
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Maria could recognize the circles
George and Sayo chained the door
George and Sayo didn't open the door for anyone
Kinzo never left his study alive


Did you forget Kanon's main reason? He wanted to search for Maria!
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Old 2009-06-29, 11:00   Link #84
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Repeat in red:
-The only way to enter and exit Kinzo's room is with a key.

Request:
-In this scenario, does Maria teach Ange the magic stuff?

Maria was an excuse to leave and find the other key. Unless... between 15:00 to 18:00 Kanon left Kinzo's room and obtained the other key, probably while Maria stole Battler's key and left the room.

Maria's presence or knowledge was required to draw the circles.

George and Sayo's killer was in the room before it was locked. <--if this is false, then request possible entrances to their room.
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Old 2009-06-29, 11:10   Link #85
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-The only way to enter and exit Kinzo's room is with a key.
Maria is "cured" from her obsession never taughed Ange
Anyone with a good memory could draw the circles since Maria showed everyone how to do it a few years ago

George and Sayo's killer wasn't inside the room before it was locked
-The only entrances to their room are the door which was chained and the window


Why would Kanon want the other key?
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Old 2009-06-29, 11:31   Link #86
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T.T anyone with a good memory remembering something useless from 4 years ago >.> If Maria and Ange didn't bother with magic it would be obvious to identify Kinzo as a participant.

State in red:
-Battler is not involved in any murder.

Request:
-George and Sayo's body wounds.

The 1st twilight (first 6 bodies) was planned or caused by insanity. Even if you kill 1 person out of anger, I doubt one would go on and kill 5 more to cover it up.

Although Maria was magically cured, her disease was passed onto someone else. At least one adult became insane.

Kanon wanted the other key because he wanted to make sure Jessica would be absolutely safe (I guess he trusts Battler and Ange to not do anything lol) Having the police break open the door when everything is all right is no problem anyway or he could simply let the boiler leak hot water until he gets the keys back.

The one who killed George and Sayo entered from their window. If the lock was broken Battler would notice before he ran off, therefore it leaves only the window.
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Old 2009-06-29, 11:40   Link #87
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-Battler is not involved in any murder.
-Insanity is not the reason for the first twilight
-Kanon didn't steal Battler's key for that purpose
-At least one adult became insane (guess who xD)
-There was no dirt in George and Sayo's room
concludes that the window couldn't be opened and a killer from the outsde would have left marks

Oh and what is an adult!?
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:08   Link #88
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Because Sayo And George's door wasn't opened by them, the door was forced open.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:11   Link #89
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-The chain that locked the door made it impossible to enter without cutting it
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:15   Link #90
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The chain was cut.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:16   Link #91
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That's absolutly correct

Quote:
Jessica stood in the doorway, shaking; there was a garden tool in her hand. Battler saw the cut door chain on the floor.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:17   Link #92
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The person who cut the chain was Sayo and George's Murderer.

The chain was cut in order to get into the room.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:19   Link #93
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Ihihihihihihihihihi!!
Jessica said that she cut the door chain
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:23   Link #94
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She said that she did cut the chain, but she didn't.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:27   Link #95
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So you are just accousing her of lying? That's not nice. Explain, why should she lie?
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:29   Link #96
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Because she killed George and Sayo.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:30   Link #97
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And why would she kill George and Sayo?
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:49   Link #98
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George and Sayo's murderer entered via the window Jessica only had a mere 10 minutes to find the gardening tool (let's say she hid it all along), slowly cut through a metal door chain, overpower George and Sayo and kill them, then find two wierd stakes and stab them again (imo you can't hide 2 stakes and a gardening tool capable of cutting steel without being suspicious). This is obviously not enough time, and there would probably be blood on Jessica's clothes.
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:51   Link #99
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The murderer didn't enter via window
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Old 2009-06-29, 13:59   Link #100
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The murderer exited through the window.
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