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Old 2010-07-10, 10:00   Link #13581
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You can say plenty of things about the Invisible Pink Unicorn in any of the colors. After all, if it's right here and you can't see it, it must be invisible. You'll just have to take the pink part on faith, but it wouldn't be called the Invisible Pink Unicorn if it were green, would it?
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:10   Link #13582
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You can say plenty of things about the Invisible Pink Unicorn in any of the colors. After all, if it's right here and you can't see it, it must be invisible. You'll just have to take the pink part on faith, but it wouldn't be called the Invisible Pink Unicorn if it were green, would it?
Yeah but that red doesn't disprove it.

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Again unless it appear in the story you wouldn't even be able to make a gold text about it because it's out of context. None of the texts would even work hypothetically without a context.
I always have the feeling you don't really have in mind the golden truth said by Beatrice. That "magic" young sis Beato used had nothing to do with the story. It wasn't an event that happened in the game.
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:19   Link #13583
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I always have the feeling you don't really have in mind the golden truth said by Beatrice. That "magic" young sis Beato used had nothing to do with the story. It wasn't an event that happened in the game.
What do you expect? I haven't read the game yet!. All I've had is the red in the wiki to guess what the context is. I've been playing pin the tail on the donkey here thus far!
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:24   Link #13584
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Hum. So I (we) started to read EP6 and in the first scene of Battler in the closed room, he remebers something about his past.
Battler's sin in related to a closed room ?
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:27   Link #13585
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Hum. So I (we) started to read EP6 and in the first scene of Battler in the closed room, he remebers something about his past.
Battler's sin in related to a closed room ?
I'm spoilered enough to know this scene foreshadows to the logic error. I don't think it's about his sin. He might have been punished by being locked in a closet as a kid though.
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:33   Link #13586
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What do you expect? I haven't read the game yet!. All I've had is the red in the wiki to guess what the context is. I've been playing pin the tail on the donkey here thus far!
What the hell are you waiting for? Go play it right now!
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:36   Link #13587
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Spoiler for Screenshot:

I am sure you know the thing I want to link that with.
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:39   Link #13588
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Sorry, too many people and too many theories, and I suck at organizing. What do you link it to?
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:59   Link #13589
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Sorry, too many people and too many theories, and I suck at organizing. What do you link it to?
07151129
But I wouldn't be surprised if it was something about 07th Expansion. It starts with 07 after all.

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Old 2010-07-10, 11:28   Link #13590
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however the same process doesn't work. 07151129 is not the power of anything nor is its reverse.
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Old 2010-07-10, 13:11   Link #13591
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Spoiler for EP6:

It is just like the actual theory says...but I don't know if it was like with the mirror and Beatrice.
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Old 2010-07-10, 13:26   Link #13592
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WOW! a big hint was released in Ep6 after Battler starts the game. It's about the game pieces & their existence & how they compare to the real world..
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That's my theory on this situation.

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Old 2010-07-10, 13:50   Link #13593
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I wish that was true. But if that was really the case Kinzo couldn't be used as a piece ^^;
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Old 2010-07-10, 14:00   Link #13594
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I never played the game either. Partly because the 07th Expansion website is blocked here. I dunno why.
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Old 2010-07-10, 14:07   Link #13595
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I wish that was true. But if that was really the case Kinzo couldn't be used as a piece ^^;
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That's my theory on that ^.^

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Old 2010-07-10, 14:44   Link #13596
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Random note:

During the ep6 Kyrie/Jessica confrontation, Kyrie insinuates having a "master" who gave her "certainty."

So is Kyrie Lambda's piece?
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Old 2010-07-10, 14:47   Link #13597
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He... you noticed.

It seems to allude so. But I have he feeling that whoever follows the path of "certainty" is automatically considered Lambda's protegee.

Still it's fun to think that Kyrie seems to know that Lambda exists.
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Old 2010-07-10, 14:57   Link #13598
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So is Kyrie Lambda's piece?
It's not just Kyrie. Evatrice, early in Ep3, refers to her magic in a way very reminiscent of the whole 'certainty' concept... and then there's Beatrice comparing Natsuhi's magic to Lambdadelta's...

I think that all the adult women are Lambda's pieces, at this point.
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Old 2010-07-10, 15:03   Link #13599
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That only makes certain theories of Lambda/Battler collusion more credible, doesn't it?

EDIT: Incidentally, several times Hachijou speaks as if she is not actually the writer. Featherine never does this.
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Old 2010-07-10, 15:24   Link #13600
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Short, profound, abstract thought.

We are usually operating on the assumption that scenes where Battler is present to observe them are presented as he sees them. This does not always produce good results, but if we cast that off we got nothing to step on.

But let's try again from a different direction. What if an objectively observing narrator exists, but it is someone else?

That is, which other characters aren't seen when anything magical happens, survive for long enough, and can be believed to have a very factual point of view?
Kumasawa I think. Other than Nanjo she has a pretty high survival rate. She's only been in the first twilight once. And I think she has at least some common sense so her perspective should be semi-factual. She could also be narrating the boiler room scene in EP1 if you really want to stretch it.
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