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Old 2010-11-19, 10:09   Link #18901
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The evidence for Battlertrice mounts by the day. Maybe chronotrig can clarify what that TIP specifically says?
戦人と二人。

It's ambiguous, it just says "the two people including Battler", it can't really be translated in English. But basically it doesn't specifically says whom Battler was with. Although what precedes clearly stated that he was killed by Eva.
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Old 2010-11-19, 10:31   Link #18902
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But the important thing there is that it mentions two people, right?
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Old 2010-11-19, 10:38   Link #18903
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yes that's definitely two people.
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Old 2010-11-19, 11:38   Link #18904
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Jessica's death tip mentions "Kanon is with her".

...Is that the same syntax used with the above line?
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Old 2010-11-19, 11:57   Link #18905
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nope that's totally different

嘉音も一緒だよ。


"She's together with Kanon"
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Old 2010-11-19, 14:19   Link #18906
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Actually the "best" variation of Battlertrice would be one where nothing dramatic ever happened on Rokkenjima Prime.

It'd make a wonderful Everyontrice theory.



Tho a bit more seriously, I was wondering... the maturity of many conversations about serious topics that are brought up constantly by several characters seems to heavily constrast the total lack of experience, delusions, and imaturity of Yasu. It seems hard to believe she actually manage to write many of these dialogs.

Tho I'm not putting this in doubt, more ... wondering if Yasu's mind really works as arc 7 pretends.
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Old 2010-11-19, 14:33   Link #18907
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Yasu's read many novels with mature content in them, is friends with Jessica, and she's implied to have savant-like cognitive talents. It's not far fetched at all.
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Old 2010-11-19, 14:59   Link #18908
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Ah, well my point is that no amounts of books will ever replace true experience, no matter if their proponents claims so.

She might be a genius but that clearly don't make her wise. If anything her tripple love relationship shows that.

Another way to put it would be that Umineko is too "Seinen" in it's approach for having been written by a sheltered teenage.

Unless I'm proven wrong, maybe that's what Ryukishi is.
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Old 2010-11-19, 16:56   Link #18909
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It's not like anything is really all that realistic, so what's the problem? Everything complex enough to require a mature mindset is something she knew through experience.
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Old 2010-11-19, 18:08   Link #18910
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You don't necessarily NEED personal experience to write fiction. Especially with romance and mystery novels. You just need a very active imagination.

Besides there are plenty of things in Umineko that would make sense if it was written by a sexually, frustrated, Japanese, teenager. I mean in episode 2 Yasu gets to go to an aquarium, a school festival, AND a concert all in the same episode! How cool is that?
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Old 2010-11-19, 20:13   Link #18911
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Yea, though there's still the possibility that this stuff actually happened. No one said Yasu had to make up everything from scratch.
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Old 2010-11-19, 20:21   Link #18912
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You don't necessarily NEED personal experience to write fiction. Especially with romance and mystery novels. You just need a very active imagination.
That reminds me of that passage in the catcher in rye where the protagonist told to his brother who has returned from the war that he can use that experience to better describe in his stories what he has witnessed. And the Brother at that point asked him which was the poet who wrote the most touching poems about war. After a while the protagonist answered: Emily Dickinson.
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Old 2010-11-19, 20:49   Link #18913
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Yea, though there's still the possibility that this stuff actually happened. No one said Yasu had to make up everything from scratch.
Also, Krauss really did punch a goat demon. She was just giving credit where it's due.
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Old 2010-11-19, 21:35   Link #18914
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Well, yea. It was Gohda on Halloween, and Krauss was drunk as hell, but that doesn't change how awesome it was.
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Old 2010-11-19, 23:23   Link #18915
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However, I'm not complaining about the story being written by Yasu, but that characters in it have conversations about serious topics presented from a pov I consider much more mature then Yasu's.

Of course like Aura said it could've really happened, at least for convo, since she should know most of them pretty well.
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Old 2010-11-20, 09:54   Link #18916
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I still wonder how they got all the background info for the stories. Things like Rosa meeting Beatrice in 1967 should be known by almost no one, and that was presented in EP3, which was supposedly not written by Yasu (who would, probably, know about it).
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Old 2010-11-20, 10:21   Link #18917
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The title for Episode 8 has been revealed !

Spoiler for EP8 name:


Also, a new sound novel for Umineko has been announced, its title is :

Spoiler for new SN name:


source is the official website ^^ http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm
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Old 2010-11-20, 10:29   Link #18918
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The title for Episode 8 has been revealed !

Spoiler for EP8 name:


Also, a new sound novel for Umineko has been announced, its title is :

Spoiler for new SN name:


source is the official website ^^ http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm
...*extreme happiness*...there is no other thing to say.
*jumps everywhere*
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Old 2010-11-20, 10:32   Link #18919
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Oh and another game has been announced with an OP movie up on youtube! It's a fighting game

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Old 2010-11-20, 10:54   Link #18920
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The cover for EP8 is nowhere remotely as good as EP4's in my opinion, though.
I like it does have art similar to the PS3's designs - probably not similar, but the same.

Spoiler for EP8's cover:

The fighting game looks cool.
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