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Old 2009-07-24, 15:00   Link #141
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Robin will get back with the help of the revolutionary army and chopper will fly on a bird?
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Old 2009-07-24, 15:00   Link #142
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Are we sure there aren't any typos or anything...
Sengoku said Ace "conquered this sea with great speed and strength".. I'm like wtf?
Makes we wonder when he ate the DF because I doubt he could do it with his own being as though he can't use Haki..
Otherwise I don't think he would have lost to Blackbeard...
With makes me believe more and more that Logia's cant use Haki
Besides that, I liked it.
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Another thing, Whitebeard has a crew of 1600 men, what proof do we have that those pirates aren't part of his crew (the 16 Division Commanders). If they aren't part of his crew, I really thought Whitebeard would bring his own army out to the Battlefield. Another thing also, I wonder what happen to the Spades Pirates, I believe maybe the division that Ace is in charge of may be have his crew members from the Spade Pirates, along with his vice-captain. Or maybe a few of those pirates may be former Spade Pirates, Ace seemed to know them, and one of them did call him "Ace-Chan"
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Old 2009-07-24, 15:17   Link #143
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The chapter is epic .......

White Beard have more aids. Each of them probably have different motives (fame, allies, honour, pride, revenge.....) but it will be interesting seeing these two armies clashes......
100k Vs approximate 5k, we can easily realise which side have more cannon folders.


Ace's hidden cards are: Luffy's groups, Red's hair, Kuma+ Hancock, Dragon, Silver + Gold D's old groups, fishman group
WG's hidden cards: Blackbeard, the other Youko, Crocodile and army of pirates who want to take WB down (he may even be betrayed by some of his own "sons"),

I believe at least one of these hidden card will totally change the course of battle
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Old 2009-07-24, 15:18   Link #144
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Are we sure there aren't any typos or anything...
Sengoku said Ace "conquered this sea with great speed and strength".. I'm like wtf?
Makes we wonder when he ate the DF because I doubt he could do it with his own being as though he can't use Haki..
Otherwise I don't think he would have lost to Blackbeard...
With makes me believe more and more that Logia's cant use Haki
Besides that, I liked it.
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Another thing, Whitebeard has a crew of 1600 men, what proof do we have that those pirates aren't part of his crew (the 16 Division Commanders). If they aren't part of his crew, I really thought Whitebeard would bring his own army out to the Battlefield. Another thing also, I wonder what happen to the Spades Pirates, I believe maybe the division that Ace is in charge of may be have his crew members from the Spade Pirates, along with his vice-captain. Or maybe a few of those pirates may be former Spade Pirates, Ace seemed to know them, and one of them did call him "Ace-Chan"
He conquered it in the same way as luffy has conquered it. I mean he's already raised hell over half the grand line. So i think he meant it in that context.

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Old 2009-07-24, 16:32   Link #145
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Are we sure there aren't any typos or anything...
Sengoku said Ace "conquered this sea with great speed and strength".. I'm like wtf?
Makes we wonder when he ate the DF because I doubt he could do it with his own being as though he can't use Haki..
Otherwise I don't think he would have lost to Blackbeard...
With makes me believe more and more that Logia's cant use Haki
Besides that, I liked it.
____________________________________

Another thing, Whitebeard has a crew of 1600 men, what proof do we have that those pirates aren't part of his crew (the 16 Division Commanders). If they aren't part of his crew, I really thought Whitebeard would bring his own army out to the Battlefield. Another thing also, I wonder what happen to the Spades Pirates, I believe maybe the division that Ace is in charge of may be have his crew members from the Spade Pirates, along with his vice-captain. Or maybe a few of those pirates may be former Spade Pirates, Ace seemed to know them, and one of them did call him "Ace-Chan"

well they all had different marks on thier ships. Even though subdivisions arent on the same ship as whitebeard, they still would carry his mark.
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Old 2009-07-24, 16:47   Link #146
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Looking over the chapter again Admiral Garb is a pretty good person at heart but It must have been hard keeping Ace hidden from the navy and i can't believe Fleet Admiral Sengoku doesn't know about it. Another time Admiral Sengoku didn't know Luffy was Admiral Garbs Grandson until Garb said something.

Every time they reveal gold D. Rogers he gets cooler in personality wise.

There also seems to be a major difference between the old school pirates and the new generations. Especially in attitude.

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Old 2009-07-24, 17:38   Link #147
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I wonder how long this war is gonna last? Oda could easily draw this out for a half year or longer if he wanted.

With so many characters, old and new, I wonder how he's gonna play this out... Will each major character get his own chapter for a battle, or will we just see glimpses of everyones power, while skipping to the outcome.
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Old 2009-07-24, 17:47   Link #148
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I wonder how long this war is gonna last? Oda could easily draw this out for a half year or longer if he wanted.

With so many characters, old and new, I wonder how he's gonna play this out... Will each major character get his own chapter for a battle, or will we just see glimpses of everyones power, while skipping to the outcome.
He'll probably dedicate 2-3 panels for each shichibukai, It wont be like bleach where the fights just drag on and on.
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Old 2009-07-24, 20:48   Link #149
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He'll probably dedicate 2-3 panels for each shichibukai, It wont be like bleach where the fights just drag on and on.
I hope so, minor characters like them shouldn't have a chapter for themselves and say something cheesy.
Besides, if they do, that would be too early to show the true power of the high ranking pirates. The strawhats haven't been to the New World yet and Oda is going to show how they fight? That'll make the story a bit boring.
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Old 2009-07-24, 21:51   Link #150
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Yeah, I pretty much agree, just a few panels will do for the majority of characters. I'm wondering if Luffy is gonna end up fighting Smoker again, since he's so gung ho on catching Luffy.
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Old 2009-07-24, 23:04   Link #151
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He'll probably dedicate 2-3 panels for each shichibukai, It wont be like bleach where the fights just drag on and on.
...............This ain't a war nor a battle drama Manga then.

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I hope so, minor characters like them shouldn't have a chapter for themselves and say something cheesy.
.........The likes of Mihawk, Newgate, Doflamingo etc etc are minor characters? Ha ha

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if they do, that would be too early to show the true power of the high ranking pirates. The strawhats haven't been to the New World yet and Oda is going to show how they fight? That'll make the story a bit boring.
Guess One Piece will go down the drain, since the strongest Pirate/crew in the OP world at this time is about to throw down with the WG.
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Old 2009-07-24, 23:13   Link #152
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This has to be one of the most epic chapters yet.

I really hope WB and Sengoku end up fighting, or at the very least WB and Garp. I also hope Dragon shows up eventually.
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Old 2009-07-24, 23:14   Link #153
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I wonder if Shanks will hear of the news and come rescue the son of his former captain. Rayleigh has to have known Ace is Roger's son too. If both of them show up, this war is going to be so much more epic than what it already is.
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Old 2009-07-24, 23:40   Link #154
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He'll probably dedicate 2-3 panels for each shichibukai, It wont be like bleach where the fights just drag on and on.
While I do doubt that the Shichibukai will really have their time to shine (i.e. no long drawn out battles for them), I expect far more than a few pages per Shichibukai (unless Oda wishes to save specific characters, making them future opponents (only DoFlamingo and Mihawk meet this criteria, though, considering that Kuma, Moria, and Hancock have all revealed their powers)). Rather, I am expecting at least 3-4 chapters dedicated solely to the Shichibukai fighting whatever opponent they will fight (more chapters could follow based on whether Oda wants to show Kuma or Hancock (or Moria) really unleash on their opponents). To reiterate, though, I am not really expecting to see much from Mihawk, and I doubt we will see much from DoFlamingo (but that's only because I think he would be a great villain for Luffy down the line, so Oda might decided to hide DoFlamingo's popwer until then).

That being said, Whitebeard's battles, and whatever Luffy will do, will take up the majority of the war. I'm personally expecting/hoping-for at least 30 chapters until the completion of the entire event.
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Old 2009-07-25, 01:26   Link #155
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While I do doubt that the Shichibukai will really have their time to shine (i.e. no long drawn out battles for them), I expect far more than a few pages per Shichibukai (unless Oda wishes to save specific characters, making them future opponents (only DoFlamingo and Mihawk meet this criteria, though, considering that Kuma, Moria, and Hancock have all revealed their powers)). Rather, I am expecting at least 3-4 chapters dedicated solely to the Shichibukai fighting whatever opponent they will fight (more chapters could follow based on whether Oda wants to show Kuma or Hancock (or Moria) really unleash on their opponents). To reiterate, though, I am not really expecting to see much from Mihawk, and I doubt we will see much from DoFlamingo (but that's only because I think he would be a great villain for Luffy down the line, so Oda might decided to hide DoFlamingo's popwer until then).

That being said, Whitebeard's battles, and whatever Luffy will do, will take up the majority of the war. I'm personally expecting/hoping-for at least 30 chapters until the completion of the entire event.
The thing is though, Dedicating 3 or 4 chapters to fights in which the Shichibukai are fighting characters we know nothing about would be a mistake.

What i mean to say is that characters who have had no build up at all in the past, To have them start taking up a whole chapter of fights is just ridiculous. I don't care if its White beards captains or the whole lot of awesome new world captain's just introduced, Having them indulge in long fights would just not be interesting.

Remember the 9 super-novas? They didn't just start fighting immediately as soon as they were shown. First we were introduced to them and their personalities before we actually got to see them fight with Kizaru.

Oda has never shown us such a fight before and i hardly think hes gonna be showing it now.

And dont we already know DonFlamingo's power? The one where he's able to control others?

I hardly think there are going to be 12 chapters for this battle, Let alone 30 unless some other pirates decide to crash the party.
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Old 2009-07-25, 01:56   Link #156
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For some reason, I get the feeling that we wont see the fights. Like something will happen that will pospone it or that Luffy wont stick around. That he would only think to rescue Ace and get out of there.
It's weird that Oda would introduce everyone's power all at once. Because if this fight would go on now and we get to see it to the end then what next? What would happen that could make the story continue? I just dont think the war will be condensed to everyone fighting one another in this final battle
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The thing is though, Dedicating 3 or 4 chapters to fights in which the Shichibukai are fighting characters we know nothing about would be a mistake.

What i mean to say is that characters who have had no build up at all in the past, To have them start taking up a whole chapter of fights is just ridiculous. I don't care if its White beards captains or the whole lot of awesome new world captain's just introduced, Having them indulge in long fights would just not be interesting.
That would be the purpose of the Shichibukai and Whitebeard commanders battle, for development. Not too mention Oda plans for this thing to ride out for a year. Oda has had volumes of straight dragged out battles before [Enies Lobby].

Too much build-up not to go all out on this thang!!
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Old 2009-07-25, 02:41   Link #158
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I seriously do not knows how strong White Beard can be. Can he hold out with all three Admirals in the same time? Or his two division leader will aid and let more minor characters to keeps the Shichibukai busy..

I knows some1 will drop in one hit just to demonstrate White beard super power and shows that: White Beard gonna beat this whole place up
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Old 2009-07-25, 03:29   Link #159
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If any big player is going to die just to prove Whitebeards power it can be Kizaru.We know that Kizaru is %95 immortal unless some great haki confronts him.Having a fight between Whitebeard and Kizaru may give Kizaru to unleash his final move (that three treasure myth about jewel,sword and mirror) and die peacefully.Aokiji is not a totally bad guy and Akainu is just too mysterious so far to die.But Kizaru deserves death the most for his merciless attitude towards pirates.
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Old 2009-07-25, 10:03   Link #160
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Another thing, Whitebeard has a crew of 1600 men, what proof do we have that those pirates aren't part of his crew (the 16 Division Commanders). If they aren't part of his crew, I really thought Whitebeard would bring his own army out to the Battlefield. Another thing also, I wonder what happen to the Spades Pirates, I believe maybe the division that Ace is in charge of may be have his crew members from the Spade Pirates, along with his vice-captain. Or maybe a few of those pirates may be former Spade Pirates, Ace seemed to know them, and one of them did call him "Ace-Chan"
They are famous pirates from the New World, who have their own crews.

WB's commanders are on board the 4 ships that surfaced at the port of Marineford.


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If any big player is going to die just to prove Whitebeards power it can be Kizaru.We know that Kizaru is %95 immortal unless some great haki confronts him.Having a fight between Whitebeard and Kizaru may give Kizaru to unleash his final move (that three treasure myth about jewel,sword and mirror) and die peacefully.Aokiji is not a totally bad guy and Akainu is just too mysterious so far to die.But Kizaru deserves death the most for his merciless attitude towards pirates.

No one has to die in order to prove how strong WB is. They only need to be beaten like Moria or Crocodile were. Also,m out of all of them, Akainu is the most ruthless. Kizaru seems to be a combo of Ao Kiji & Akainu's in regards to his attitude. And of course he will be merciless towards Pirates, he's a Marine Admiral, thats his job.
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