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Old 2010-01-07, 00:42   Link #241
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And my God, the animation is unbelievably awful, this is from the studio that brought us Kannagi? Even ignoring the animation, the girl kept going off model and there was very little attempts at movement during crowd scenes.... and it can only get worse from here given that this was the first episode.
If you thought the animation for Sora no Woto was awful, then you don't know what awful is
I thought it was done quite nicely.
At least it wasn't just static talking heads appearing throughout the whole episode. It could've been worse, you know. Ignoring the crowd scene, there was quite alot of movement, especially along the lines of Konata's set of expressions (which I thought were cute but a bit cringe-worthy for me lol) There's only so much "cute" I can take in.

I guess that song-insert scene didn't do enough for you either?
It IS a bit messy and simple (not very shiny-desu) but the style & such is still pleasing to look at...at least to me.
But to each their own.
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Old 2010-01-07, 00:57   Link #242
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At least it wasn't just static talking heads appearing throughout the whole episode. It could've been worse, you know. Ignoring the crowd scene, there was quite alot of movement, especially along the lines of Konata's set of expressions (which I thought were cute but a bit cringe-worthy for me lol) There's only so much "cute" I can take in.
Reading the past paging is making me point this out due to slight annoyance, but how long do you guys plan to keep calling her Konata instead of Kanata Sorami?
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:09   Link #243
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Well I suppose some sequestered people would find a person in non clingy clothes military getting wet "hot".... Thankfully, I'm not one of those.

Hmmm... I think you're reading way too much into this, seeing bondage, demeaning things to females all in one poor town's festival as this in no way looks like its counterpart in hentai.
I'm running with Orion on this, Sol Falling. You may see BD/Humiliation in this, but again I'm guessing that is coming from your own frame of reference, not from the scene itself or directorial intent. It has been said that everything can be interpreted as sexual/fetishistic, but that does not mean that everything actually carries that annotation or connotation; simply that some mindsets will read it in places where it was never intended.

That being said, yeah, we're a bit off topic..My apologies.
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:12   Link #244
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Reading the past paging is making me point this out due to slight annoyance, but how long do you guys plan to keep calling her Konata instead of Kanata Sorami?
Considering you can still find debates between Holo vs. Horo; I'd say forever, but if it really is "a" rather than "o", I'll run with it
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:19   Link #245
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Considering you can still find debates between Holo vs. Horo; I'd say forever, but if it really is "a" rather than "o", I'll run with it
Holo vs. Horo is because there is no distinct "r" and "l" in Japanese; ホロ, being a name and thus more flexible when it comes to Romanization, could really be either.

However there's no way to argue "Kanata" because the five vowels are quite distinct; she clearly says "Kanata" when introducing herself, and the ending credits clearly list her as "Kanata," as well; "ka" looks like カ and "ko" looks like コ.
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:26   Link #246
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Holo vs. Horo is because there is no distinct "r" and "l" in Japanese; ホロ, being a name and thus more flexible when it comes to Romanization, could really be either.

However there's no way to argue "Kanata" because the five vowels are quite distinct; she clearly says "Kanata" when introducing herself, and the ending credits clearly list her as "Kanata," as well; "ka" looks like カ and "ko" looks like コ.
Actually, that was mostly a joke, really
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:31   Link #247
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Old 2010-01-07, 01:44   Link #248
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It's okay, I'm a fan of that blue haired character.

The first episode feels like a mixed bag. It feels like it can get serious with the plot but I also feel like it can be lighthearted with character interaction. Yeah, I'm confused. Regardless, I enjoyed the first episode and I'm definitely curious.
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Old 2010-01-07, 02:37   Link #249
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Well, the plot almost feels too forced at this point and I'm sorta scared they're going to jump the fiction/fantasy shark anytime soon with this one. As for the characters... yeah... I never thought I'd see such an unlikable cast right off the getgo. I mean, all the characters (especially the girls) are total modern anime stereotypes.. I sort of wished they would have opted for a more toned down feel with the characters, but instead, we get a total cliche-fest like some harem anime.
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Old 2010-01-07, 04:31   Link #250
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Promising. That's all I can really say. Not necessarily good nor bad. I just hope that it keeps moving in the same direction without deteriorating into silly slice of life antics. For now, I'll hold faith in Sora no Woto and give it the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I find it kind of funny how some are comparing this to Strike Witches, and after watching Sora no Woto's ED (and, well, not really liking it at all considering everything that lead up to it in the first episode), I decided to run an experiment of sorts. There's obviously rough spots (of which are inevitable), but at times, it syncs surprisingly well:

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Old 2010-01-07, 07:11   Link #251
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I'm running with Orion on this, Sol Falling. You may see BD/Humiliation in this, but again I'm guessing that is coming from your own frame of reference, not from the scene itself or directorial intent. It has been said that everything can be interpreted as sexual/fetishistic, but that does not mean that everything actually carries that annotation or connotation; simply that some mindsets will read it in places where it was never intended.

That being said, yeah, we're a bit off topic..My apologies.
I don't really see how a shot of a soaked girl crawling around on the floor at the complete mercy of people dumping water on her can be seen as not fetishistic. The question is not whether or not the intention to fanservice is there, it might simply be whether you have the frame of reference to recognize/appreciate it. Certainly, the 'dark and demeaning' interpretation may have risen out of my own conception of this kind of thing, but as I said in my second post, even objectively, the fetishistic aspect of focusing on a girl crawling on the ground getting water thrown all over her is clearly present.

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Lite only if you're sequested and desperate.

If it's water, then they'd use it. They only ones that got doused with the water and dousing with water was the maiden. The demon/dragon firebombed the city so people died. The red liquid that the people are spraying so happily in the town could represent the blood of the dead from the firebombings or the destruction that rained from the skies caused by the demon. Being a European setting, my bet is for "blood" or demon destruction.

It's prob left up to the individual for interpretation until the anime tells us.
Standard (sexy) fanservice is for people who are desperate. The condition of being able to get off on the humiliation of others has much more to do with antisocialism and mysogyny than desperation. :P The fetishistic element of that scene blatantly comes from the heroine's percieved helplessness under the watery assault of her captors. I don't know what exactly your point is in trying to say that will appeal only to an audience of a certain mindset but that it is there is certainly clear.
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Old 2010-01-07, 12:00   Link #252
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I know atm So.Ra.No.Wo.To is currently being compared with K-ON to death by now (especially in 4chan) but regardless. Something I posted on /a/ for the lulz but for some reason it doesn't get any accurate than this.

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Old 2010-01-07, 15:15   Link #253
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I don't really see how a shot of a soaked girl crawling around on the floor at the complete mercy of people dumping water on her can be seen as not fetishistic. The question is not whether or not the intention to fanservice is there, it might simply be whether you have the frame of reference to recognize/appreciate it.
They had to show the festival scenes with her otherwise it would be a blank. So its not they meant it as fanservice, but rather they had to show that much. Even if you think of it as more violent then it is, that hardly makes it "enticing"; as someone said earlier you have to be "desperate" to find things like that fan service.
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Old 2010-01-07, 15:53   Link #254
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Just caught this and it was a really nice starting episode. God that terrible playing really reminded me of first year highschool music class . Now there's a bit of nostalgia. Anyways looks pretty good and the characters so far are pretty likable. Never really got into K-ON so won't really be comparing this to that series.

In terms of the crawling on the floor thing I thought that was more sad than fanservice. Poor girl has no idea what's going on and yet people are pouring stuff on her head .
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Old 2010-01-07, 15:53   Link #255
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I just finished watching the first episode and strangely...I really liked it! Especially the music (Kalafina FTW!), especially that song in French! I wonder if that's gonna be included in the OST later on? I love Kanata already, and the series has some sort of mythical yet gentle feel to it.
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Old 2010-01-07, 22:25   Link #256
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I think it was a good first episode. Not great, but I'll keep watching. The setting was the best part of the episode, it just kept hitting me how epic and almost mythological everything seemed.
However, I kept having uncomfortable flashes of K-ON which sort of kept me from fully "entering into" the episode, if you know what I mean.

Also, I find Kanata irritates me. I would say that it's the whole airhead personality, but Yui never annoyed me this way.
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Old 2010-01-08, 03:09   Link #257
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Um. There is no need to get cynical or outraged over the K-ON comparisons. The character design just is a mirror image. They really didn't bother to change it all that much after all. That said, the forced-plot-point and heavy stereotypical outlook of the girls at first glance for Sora no Woto irks me a bit more because at least K-ON tried to go the moe and normal slice of life formula, while Sora no Woto seems to want to take itself seriously.. Sora no Woto started out a bit awkwardly IMO, with the heavy cramming of the culture they're trying to show, which is basically like 3 or 4 real life cultural mythologies and traditions mashed into one. Well, that and the extreme anime character archetypes. Or shall I say, stereotypes.
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Old 2010-01-08, 03:30   Link #258
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Yeah, I bet they are hoping that the K-On! selling luck rubs off on them. It may be a good thing.
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Old 2010-01-08, 03:56   Link #259
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Hmmm.... gg says they're dropping this because CR licensed to stream Sora no Woto.
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Old 2010-01-08, 06:10   Link #260
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Kanata has the absolute pitch. It’s because she could find Rio’s bell necklace. Hence came Rio-Kanata relationship and recognition. Perfect plot.

I hope Kanata will be a great trumpet player someday.
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