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Old 2011-08-17, 00:07   Link #1301
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And only the First and Koyomi have called her Kiss Shot. So it must mean a lot to her. Though i wish i knew the order in which her name is read (first, middle last.)
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Old 2011-08-17, 01:17   Link #1302
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Not only Hitagi's name was mentioned, Araragi also reported her thoughts on the recent Ishihara's policy.
This is why I can't stop loving her.
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Old 2011-08-17, 03:23   Link #1303
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Why is calling Heart-Under-Blade, Kiss shot a big deal?
I guess that in Japanese Kissshot is the equivalent of her first name. In Japanese people rarely call each other on first name's terms, that would imply a high degree of familiarity. If you notice, even Araragi calls other girls with their surnames.
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Old 2011-08-21, 17:23   Link #1304
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I have a question, did it say anywhere in the novels that vampires can't have children with other vampires? Someone in a chinese forum said so but I can't remember it being mentioned anywhere. We know for sure vampires can have children with humans since Episode's existence proves that.
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Old 2011-08-21, 21:55   Link #1305
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I assume they can, since Koyomi thought Kiss Shot/Dramaturgie were originals, and they would either have been a vampire since birth or born to two vampires. Though i wonder if there is a limitation with the females' ovaries, etc.
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Old 2011-08-22, 07:54   Link #1306
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I have a question, did it say anywhere in the novels that vampires can't have children with other vampires? Someone in a chinese forum said so but I can't remember it being mentioned anywhere.
Neither I do. At most, it seems vampires can't swim, but that's all.
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Old 2011-08-23, 01:58   Link #1307
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Black Hanekawa was a male when it was still a cat but when it's in Hanekawa's body does it have the mental state of a boy or a girl?
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Old 2011-08-23, 05:14   Link #1308
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Black Hanekawa was a male when it was still a cat but when it's in Hanekawa's body does it have the mental state of a boy or a girl?
Wow, never knew about that, very interesting question. I think it could very possibly be a male mindset, still... But a very sexually provocative one, lol. Thinking about the tsubasa cat arc, it's pretty ambiguous in the dialogue.
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Old 2011-08-23, 10:39   Link #1309
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Black Hanekawa was a male when it was still a cat but when it's in Hanekawa's body does it have the mental state of a boy or a girl?
It was explained in Shiro. The original Sawari Neko was a male cat, but Black Hanekawa was born from Hanekawa's heart, so its gender falls into a grey area. It does use the masculine pronoun "ore" though.
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Old 2011-08-23, 13:55   Link #1310
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I was wondering, what order are the Kaii's in, from when they were first in town? Tsukihi was first, since she wasn't really "born" right?
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Old 2011-08-23, 18:16   Link #1311
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I was wondering, what order are the Kaii's in, from when they were first in town? Tsukihi was first, since she wasn't really "born" right?
Tsukihi is technically born since the mind of both the phoenix and the child is mixed into one.

The order of when they came to town should be:
Araragi Tsukihi-14 years before Bake
Hachikuji Mayoi-10 years before Bake
Rainy Devil-7 years before Bake
Omoshi Kani-2 years before Bake
Kissshot‧Acerolaorion‧Heartunder‧Blade-1 and a half months before Bake
Dramaturgie-1 and a half months before Bake
Episode-1 and a half months before Bake
Araragi Koyomi-1 and a half months before Bake
Black Hanekawa-one week before Bake
Jagirinawa-During Bake
Ononoki Yotsugi-2 months after Bake
Kako-2 months and a week after Bake
Sengoku Nadeko-4 and a half months after Bake
Kuchinawa-san-4 and a half months after Bake
Numachi Rouka-11 months after Bake

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Old 2011-08-26, 00:52   Link #1312
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Can Kissshot‧Acerolaorion‧Heartunder‧Blade be interpreted into a Japanese name?
Well, Heart-under-blade is simply the radical for "heart" put on top of the radical for "blade", thus "Shinobu".
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Old 2011-08-26, 04:16   Link #1313
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Can Kissshot‧Acerolaorion‧Heartunder‧Blade be interpreted into a Japanese name?
Well, Heart-under-blade is simply the radical for "heart" put on top of the radical for "blade", thus "Shinobu".
I don't think that's possible.
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Old 2011-08-26, 12:28   Link #1314
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Can Kissshot‧Acerolaorion‧Heartunder‧Blade be interpreted into a Japanese name?
Well, Heart-under-blade is simply the radical for "heart" put on top of the radical for "blade", thus "Shinobu".
I tried, but I couldn't find any kanji that could have a connection. For example, in Japanese Orion is currently written in katakana. And I never found a kanji for "kiss" either. I think it's probably just a weird joke without any real meaning behind it.

And by the way, even if you know how to write a name, you don't necessarily know how to read it in Japanese. The reading is just a convention, a name could have plenty of different readings.
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Old 2011-08-26, 21:01   Link #1315
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Do you think it's even her real name? It seems like she might have just adopted parts of it.
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Old 2011-08-26, 21:49   Link #1316
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Her real name is probably John Smith.
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Old 2011-08-27, 04:52   Link #1317
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I have a question, did it say anywhere in the novels that vampires can't have children with other vampires? Someone in a chinese forum said so but I can't remember it being mentioned anywhere. We know for sure vampires can have children with humans since Episode's existence proves that.
Does this topic emerge from the latest Bakemonogatari doujin from Homunculus?
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Old 2011-08-27, 05:47   Link #1318
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Does this topic emerge from the latest Bakemonogatari doujin from Homunculus?
Yeah. Personally I have never questioned the possibility.
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Old 2011-08-27, 21:04   Link #1319
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Does the novels say anything about Koyomi's birthday? I'm curious to find out when is it.
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Old 2011-08-28, 04:45   Link #1320
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Do you think it's even her real name? It seems like she might have just adopted parts of it.
I've got the impression that a lot of the names Nisio conceives are written with kanji that are never used in real Japanese names, so yes, I think the fact it sounds bizarre proves it's her real name.
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