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Old 2011-12-21, 04:53   Link #1601
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That's probably one of the most unpredictable thing I've ever read in a while. So much that I feel like I was trolled.
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Old 2011-12-21, 05:11   Link #1602
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A lot of people are explaining the title with Nadeko's story, actually.

Hitagi put an END to Nadeko's sordid tale of miserable one-sided love, her Koimonogatari if you will, so that she might follow her dreams.

It fits pretty nicely if you think about how all the Season 2 books have been wrapping up the loose ends of the heroines (Hitagi's self, Tsubasa's lingering stress and insecurity, Kanbaru's future, Mayoi's... death, and now Nadeko's love) to make way for a Zaregoto-style showdown with Ougi in Season 3.
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Old 2011-12-21, 05:14   Link #1603
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That's probably one of the most unpredictable thing I've ever read in a while. So much that I feel like I was trolled.
Hence why everyone said they were tricked. The thing is, at the end of Otori the narration set up the situation as if an epic battle was about to unfold. I mean we see Araragi, Hitagi and teenage Shinobu slowly walking towards Nadeko and we see her saying how their vampirism has nothing over her poison.

I just hope that the epic battle did happen and it's just that they lost and Kaiki came to save the day at the end.

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A lot of people are explaining the title with Nadeko's story, actually.

Hitagi put an END to Nadeko's sordid tale of miserable one-sided love, her Koimonogatari if you will, so that she might follow her dreams.

It fits pretty nicely if you think about how all the Season 2 books have been wrapping up the loose ends of the heroines (Hitagi's self, Tsubasa's lingering stress and insecurity, Kanbaru's future, Mayoi's... death, and now Nadeko's love) to make way for a Zaregoto-style showdown with Ougi in Season 3.
To be fair, Hitagi's self was resolved in Nise.

Also, I think the reason why Nisio did it like this is because he wants to set up Nadeko as an ally when the battle with Ougi happens. I also think the battle will probably happen AFTER HANA.
Araragi and Shinobu - Vampirism
Hanekawa - Energy absorption and fire breathing (assuming she can use her Kaii powers)
Kanbaru - Devil parts (as far we know she still has them)
Nadeko - Poison and snake summoning

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Old 2011-12-21, 05:24   Link #1604
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To be fair, Hitagi's self was resolved in Nise.
True, true, but I suppose that I meant it as more of a general progression than an actual trichotomy.

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Nadeko - Poison and snake summoning
It would seem that Nadeko
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(The Koimonogatari summary in my post at the top of the page describes this extraction process in more detail.)
So she's just a normal human now, as far as we know.

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Old 2011-12-21, 06:41   Link #1605
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And though it kind of goes without saying, it also seems fairly likely that Oshino will eventually come back in some capacity, what with Tsubasa going to the trouble of looking for him and the presumable significance of Ougi
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But knowing Nisio, Oshino will probably come back as the secret bonus villain or something crazy like that.

We also still don't know what Araragi and Episode were up to from back in Nekomonogatari, either.
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Old 2011-12-21, 06:43   Link #1606
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Old 2011-12-21, 07:01   Link #1607
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What!?? So this DOESN'T take place in March....the hell!!! Okay, okay, upon closer reading in Otori, Nadeko said the day the three of them came was in March but she didn't know exactly which day. So IT IS possible that Nadeko actually had no sense of what day it was and just assumed it was March.

As for the graduation event Kanbaru talked about in Hana....I'm just confused.

Also, boo on Nadeko losing her powers. However I guess it was inevitable since it's pretty clear now that Ougi tricked Nadeko into eating the charm so that it couldn't be used against her.
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Old 2011-12-21, 10:26   Link #1608
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Also, I love how the very first sentence in the novel is, "For all the readers who thought it'll be Senjougahara Hitagi that's telling the story, you've been tricked."

On a scale of 1-10 of how much we were trolled during these past novels I would list them as such:
Bake 1 - 1
Bake 2 - 1
Kizu - 1
Nise 1 - 1
Nise 2 - 5
Neko 1 - 6
Neko 2 - 1
Kabuki - 9
Hana - 2
Otori - 1
Oni - 6
Koi - 10

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Old 2011-12-21, 12:44   Link #1609
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There also seems to be something that Nisio's written in the book's afterword that makes everyone feel better about why the book isn't what we all expected it to be.
Can you tell me what is it?
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Old 2011-12-21, 12:57   Link #1610
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Can you tell me what is it?
I was going to ask myself but it doesn't seem like anyone posted anything.
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Old 2011-12-21, 18:21   Link #1611
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Old 2011-12-21, 19:54   Link #1612
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Old 2011-12-21, 22:44   Link #1613
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Old 2011-12-22, 00:35   Link #1614
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Damn, Hitagi as the narrator was going to be so beast, I guess a bit too beast.
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Old 2011-12-22, 01:13   Link #1615
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If you're talking strictly about endings, Nisio's very first work had a practically ideal ending.
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Old 2011-12-22, 02:15   Link #1616
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I'm talking in terms of both, development and ending.
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Old 2011-12-22, 03:10   Link #1617
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As long as Senjogahara is fine, it will remain as happy ending regardless of how many others are killed.
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Old 2011-12-22, 08:37   Link #1618
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BTW I'm probably not going to get my wish but I actually really want Nisio to explore Tsukihi being a phoenix more.
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Old 2011-12-22, 14:01   Link #1619
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The B&W image inside Koimonogatari.
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Old 2011-12-22, 14:20   Link #1620
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Just found out Maaya Sakamoto isn't able to sing as her characters....who do you think will do Shinobu/Kissshot's OP?
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