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Old 2012-03-26, 12:38   Link #1981
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Coming from watching further spoilers it's apparently now confirmed that...

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T_T For someone who's supposed to be the main character (Vivi[d]o).... she lost the match T_T (and I thought she died cause she became a clone and reached zero HP)
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Old 2012-03-26, 13:01   Link #1982
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T_T For someone who's supposed to be the main character (Vivi[d]o).... she lost the match T_T
To be fair that's not something entirely unheard of, but yeah, it's a bit unusual.

Comes to mind Yusuke Urameshi in the last Arc of YuYu Hakusho, Goku didn't win the Tenkaichi Budokai Tournament until his 3rd try, Ash Ketchum NEVER managed to win any game-canonical league(he only ends up champion in filler arcs), and so on... I gues it comes with the "i still have a lot to learn" feeling which makes sense for Vivio and the girls since they're powerfull but still unexperienced amateurs.
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Old 2012-03-26, 13:04   Link #1983
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Vivio didn't even reach the semi-finals......
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Old 2012-03-26, 13:13   Link #1984
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Vivio didn't even reach the semi-finals......
Making it in the top 4 with that level of competition ?
This isn`t Pokémon.
The possible lack of Einhart-Vivio fight is a surprise.
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Old 2012-03-26, 13:29   Link #1985
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The possible lack of Einhart-Vivio fight is a surprise.
Ash and Gary didn't have a chance to face each other in the Kanto League either. In fact, both were eliminated before the finals which kickstarted Gary's character developement.
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Old 2012-03-26, 14:06   Link #1986
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It would've been too fast if they'd do that now, to be honest. We've barely been introduced to many of these characters, having them all just be throwaway characters would be a waste. Besides, our cast was explicitly told they'd have trouble even getting as far as they have.

Now the big kicker for me is how will Einhart's next match go? Smashing defeat? Close call but defeated? Miraculous win? I'd hope the first, Einhart needs a good loss that actually matters emotionally.
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Old 2012-03-26, 14:08   Link #1987
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Didn't they tease Rio's fight last chapter? They'll probably show that, maybe something else, and then Einhart's next battle. Maybe it'll be Victoria?
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Old 2012-03-26, 14:08   Link #1988
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Probably the same could happen to Miura. Seh managed to score an impressive win against Vivio only to be stompped on her next match against one of the uber powerfull veterans xD
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Old 2012-03-26, 14:19   Link #1989
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Didn't they tease Rio's fight last chapter? They'll probably show that, maybe something else, and then Einhart's next battle. Maybe it'll be Victoria?
Yeah, Rio's going to be first, but I was more theorycrafting on how Einhart and her status as Vivid's 'true' main character will influence her next battle.
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Old 2012-03-28, 00:47   Link #1990
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interesting developments, if true

edit: It seems the rumors are true.

So is Vivio out of this tourny?
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Old 2012-03-31, 01:15   Link #1991
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Old 2012-03-31, 01:52   Link #1992
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When is the tournament held? Every year?

And my reaction: somethings wrong with Vivio!
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Old 2012-03-31, 02:09   Link #1993
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Please don't use the clone degradation plot, please please please.
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Old 2012-03-31, 02:17   Link #1994
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So whatever it is that's wrong with Vivio acted up allowing Miura to score several decisive hits including the finishing blow. So prepare for the cries of "Miura only won because something is wrong with Vivio!"
I don't think people like Vivio enough to do that.
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Old 2012-03-31, 02:25   Link #1995
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I do, but I don't see anything wrong with Miura's victory regardless. Strengths and weaknesses are vital to winning or losing a tournament. Your health is part of that.
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I figured something was wrong with Vivio. Clone degradation is the obvious choice, but we'll see. There ARE reasons why cloning is forbidden in the Bureau, after all. However, Fate and Erio seem just fine, so who knows?

This could lead to Einhart being motivated enough to really try hard and win the tournament, but I thought this was Vivio's story.

Oh, and I don't see a problem with Miura winning because of this, but I get the feeling she'll have the attitude of "I won because something is wrong with Vivio? I don't feel comfortable with that kind of a win. I want a rematch when Vivio is all better." And then Vivio may urge her to continue anyway.
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Old 2012-03-31, 09:25   Link #1997
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Oh, and I don't see a problem with Miura winning because of this, but I get the feeling she'll have the attitude of "I won because something is wrong with Vivio? I don't feel comfortable with that kind of a win. I want a rematch when Vivio is all better." And then Vivio may urge her to continue anyway.
Yup, i think this is the approach Mura will and should take xD It's a bit frustrating to have the worth of your victory being stained by such an inconvenience. It's like Signum VS. Zest, one can argue she only won that fight because Zest was already dying.
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Old 2012-03-31, 10:37   Link #1998
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This could lead to Einhart being motivated enough to really try hard and win the tournament, but I thought this was Vivio's story.
Remind me, when exactly has the plot of this manga revolved around Vivio? Not since the first chapter. This manga has been about Einhart ever since her introduction.

It's just like S1 is about Fate and A's is about Hayate, while Nanoha is merely pushing the cart. It really looks like Vivid is sticking to the "main characters aren't really the main characters" line of thinking.

But yeah, clone degradation. Blegh.
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Clone degradation would be stupid, though. Why is it only happening now? Why are Fate and the Numbers just fine?

I think there might be a wild card slot. Vivio will fight in a loser bracket and win her way back into the main tournament.
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Probably has something to do with her Adult Form most likely. Remember that Einhalt saw the memories of er... I don't remember the name, BUT, it looks like Vivio's starting to have the same reaction as well.
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