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Old 2011-12-05, 00:41   Link #1581
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I think what is being said is that if Victoria had the same rank as Fate or Erio, her attacks would be more powerful than theirs. But maybe you're saying that too and I'm missing something.

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Old 2011-12-05, 04:09   Link #1582
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Fate and Erio relies on their speed to make hit counts so supposedly their long range spells won't hit as hard as pure gunners, but that's only true for Erio (currently). Remember that Fate can match spell for spell with Nanoha except for Starlight Breaker, with her only weakness being defense (and mana because of Arf, but not important here) especially when she uses Sonic Form. Her Artificial Mage body was made to be perfect, so I doubt she would actually lose in a match of strength against Victoria. Even legendary blood is still born human.

Victoria's fighting style is the opposite of Fate/Erio though. She plays on being immovable and invulnerable, waiting and seeking for chances before dealing devastating thunder attacks to the enemy.
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Old 2011-12-05, 04:31   Link #1583
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I don't recall Fate's body ever being engineered to be superior in raw physical strength. Indeed her fight against Signum rather proves the opposite. Even if she was though, unless you keep up your training strength is easily lost. Fate does not train for raw strength, but speed and agility. Victoria would in raw strength win due to her training being more strength focused.
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Old 2011-12-05, 04:39   Link #1584
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Yup, we see that reflected in her fight with Shante, at first Victoria was overwhelmed by Shante's fighting-style which included illusions, duplication and outstanding speed. Shante attacked Victoria several times with successful hits but only manage to deal subpar damage which also proves the quality of Victoria's defenses. We see. however, that the few hits Victoria scored on Shante managed to deal very considerable amounts of damage and once she manage to finally seal Shante's movements by grabbing her she finshed her with a powerfull slam on the ground. So yeah, Victoria's style pretty much favours strenght and timing over speed.
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Old 2011-12-05, 08:31   Link #1585
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who knows, maybe Victoria will perform cast off in later chapter. She might be like Virtue Gundam.
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Old 2011-12-05, 08:33   Link #1586
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who knows, maybe Victoria will perform cast off in later chapter. She might be like Virtue Gundam.
I would prefer cast-on, and become a "Full Armor Golem". Just to mix things up.

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Old 2011-12-05, 08:38   Link #1587
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Agreed. Need more knights who actually wear armor.
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Old 2011-12-05, 09:38   Link #1588
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Agreed. Need more knights who actually wear armor.
But it's harder to flash pants and boobs with realistic armor !
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Old 2011-12-05, 09:42   Link #1589
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Agreed. Need more knights who actually wear armor.
Thirded! Enough of that "Knight Clothing" crap. We need more "Knight Armor" here xD!

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But it's harder to flash pants and boobs with realistic armor !
I always prefer awesomeness over hotness xD!
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Old 2011-12-05, 09:43   Link #1590
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But it's harder to flash pants and boobs with realistic armor !
There's a saying, and the source escapes me at the moment, that the temptation is higher when the desired is covered up. The excitement greater when minimal is revealed.

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Old 2011-12-05, 09:43   Link #1591
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Speed enhances force collision, making up for the lack of strength. Though it does makes movements quite predictable.
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Old 2011-12-05, 09:46   Link #1592
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Speed enhances force collision, making up for the lack of strength. Though it does makes movements quite predictable.
Well... if we bring kitten-killing physics into this, inertia would mean that the speeding "bullet" will take tremendous amounts of damage as well. The amount of damage inflicted might be the same, but the self-inflicted damage would be vastly different between the speedster and the brute.

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Old 2011-12-05, 09:51   Link #1593
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Rescued from the FORCE thread xDU...

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Still crossing my fingers that she and Miura will become battle sisters.

Please!
Yeah, me too, somehow that subplot of the champ becoming friends with the noobiest of the newbies sounds very appealing to me. They'll mace a cute pair of sisters xD
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Old 2011-12-05, 10:18   Link #1594
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There's a saying, and the source escapes me at the moment, that the temptation is higher when the desired is covered up. The excitement greater when minimal is revealed.

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Probably from an Aria thread. That fully clothed fanservice there is something special.
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Old 2011-12-05, 18:08   Link #1595
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There's a saying, and the source escapes me at the moment, that the temptation is higher when the desired is covered up. The excitement greater when minimal is revealed.

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First i must precise that my post was made in jest , second i kind of agree with your quote Skane, to me the appeal of a character isnt tied to the amount of flesh/pants/boobs showing
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Old 2011-12-05, 22:53   Link #1596
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yeah, i find some of the fanservice merely forced contrivances
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Old 2011-12-07, 20:19   Link #1597
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So I've been reading through the chapters again (including the ones that haven't been translated yet)

It seems that sometime after StrikerS and Vivid they have managed to develop a way to emulate cyborg IS, because I see Vivio and her pals using previously IS specific skills

In chapter 15, Vivio even replicates wheels to emulate Nove's roller boots

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Old 2011-12-07, 20:22   Link #1598
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Turning IS into magic is nothing new. Subaru did that with Wing Road in StrikerS. It's mostly just figuring out the principles ("okay, wheels under feet") and figuring out how to do that with magic. Magic being versatile as hell, this should not be too difficult.
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Old 2011-12-07, 20:23   Link #1599
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The spinning for Vibration Shatter had nothing to do with the IS. That was all Revolver Knuckle, which was not designed with Vibration Shatter in mind.
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Old 2011-12-07, 20:29   Link #1600
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Wing Road isn't an IS. It was something Quint used. Nove's equivalent is, though.
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