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Old 2009-10-18, 22:11   Link #161
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well, Yanagimoto dislikes Haruhi.
Is it ever mentioned why?
Jealousy, perhaps? I mean, Haruhi gets great marks, and doesn't really have to work to get them... in most schools, that would breed some jealousy.

Another possibility is that Yanagimoto might be special in some way.


Anyway... that's incredible detail for minor side characters. Impressive in some ways. One thing that stands out to me while going through Haruhi's class, and their various relations and associations with one another, is how much of an outsider duo Kyon and Haruhi are. Especially Haruhi herself.

Most of the rest of the class are more involved with other classmates than they are.

That's an intriguing touch.
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Old 2009-10-18, 22:40   Link #162
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That's pretty much all the information we have on their classmates.

*e* In Haruhi's defense, at least one person in the class has "Wants to be friends with Haruhi" in her description.
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... well... at least it's written the same...

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Old 2009-10-18, 23:33   Link #163
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Jealousy, perhaps? I mean, Haruhi gets great marks, and doesn't really have to work to get them... in most schools, that would breed some jealousy.

Another possibility is that Yanagimoto might be special in some way.


Anyway... that's incredible detail for minor side characters. Impressive in some ways. One thing that stands out to me while going through Haruhi's class, and their various relations and associations with one another, is how much of an outsider duo Kyon and Haruhi are. Especially Haruhi herself.

Most of the rest of the class are more involved with over classmates than they are.

That's an intriguing touch.
I think Yanagimoto's perspective can be put thusly:

A girl waltzes into class every day and acts like she owns the universe. She disrupts the class every other day, stares out the window half the time, runs a group of delinquents out of another club's clubroom, and frequently walks around the school in a bunny suit. Despite all this, she never gets in any real trouble and manages to pwn everyone at everything, especially in athletics and acedemics.

I think there's quite a list there of very good reasons to hate Haruhi Suzumiya.

But whatever. So Yana is a heretic. What are ya gonna do?
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Old 2009-10-19, 07:58   Link #164
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Which character is Yanagimoto again?

also I don't know if they were just there at lunch from another room but were the younger members of ENOZ in Haruhi and Kyon's class? there are a couple girls that look like them in the episode.
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Old 2009-10-19, 08:37   Link #165
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... Look on the last page, there's two seating charts, and the second has everything in English. For a less harsh answer, she sits behind Kunikida, and that's about the only thing I can tell you.

As for the second question, there is no one in their class named Enomoto, Nakanishi, Okajima or Zaizen, so I'd think it's safe to say that none of them are in the same class as Haruhi and Kyon.
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... well... at least it's written the same...
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Old 2009-10-19, 13:02   Link #166
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I'm pretty sure Yana doesn't have that good of a reason to dislike Haruhi.
Haruhi is capable of making friends (Tsuruya and Mikuru, and Yuki I guess) and is able to have a good time while still being her eccentric self but Yana wouldn't know that.
Also, Ryoko wanted to be friends with Haruhi. She and Sakanaka should have teamed up
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Most of the class is implied to have tried becoming Haruhi's friend. Yanagimoto most likely just took the rejection poorly.
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Old 2009-10-19, 13:28   Link #168
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I've always wondered why everyone tried to make friends with her.
She seems more open now in the novels for whatever reason..
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Old 2009-10-19, 14:10   Link #169
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I've always wondered why everyone tried to make friends with her.
They were probably just trying to be nice. Also, she is a very interesting person, saying what she said at the introduction, being exelent in both sports and studys... It is natural people try to know her. It is also natural people just stop after a whyle and starting dislike her, she was very rude with everyone.
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Old 2009-10-19, 14:34   Link #170
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But no one (besides Yana) really dislikes her, they just kind of gave up
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Well, if someone's an ass to you, you generally ignore them, right? If dealing with someone upsets you, you don't deal with them. Maybe Yana's just more confrotational.

Although I'd personally try to beat the crap out of them for treating people like dirt. I think Haruhi's earlier behaviour is disgusting. Do you honestly think anyone would put up with her behaviour if she didn't have those powers? No. Kyon would have hit her in Sighs, and she'd have gotten what she really deserves. (Or deserved depending on your views.)

You don't treat people like toys, and you don't treat them like they're nothing. Haruhi did/does both and at times I found it kind of hard to read.

Her classmates get a free front row ticket to her dislikeable behaviour. They have two options: ignore it, or react to it. It looks to me like the majority of the class ignore/ignored it.
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Old 2009-10-19, 14:55   Link #172
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Although I'd personally try to beat the crap out of them for treating people like dirt. I think Haruhi's earlier behaviour is disgusting. Do you honestly think anyone would put up with her behaviour if she didn't have those powers? No. Kyon would have hit her in Sighs, and she'd have gotten what she really deserves. (Or deserved depending on your views.)
Errr, Kyon don't give a danm to Hruhi's powers. He would be her friend even without it. Actually, given her behaviour in late novels, I believe she would have more friends without her powers.

Anyway, I agree with the rest of the post. Haruhi was an ass to everyone so everyone just decided to ignore her. And, as you said, Yanagimoto is porbably just more confrontational then the others. Or maybe they were to the same Middle School and Yana dislike Haruhi since then.

I am more curious why Sakanaka still wants to be Haruhi's friend. She should've just gave up. I guess Haruhi is still somewhat popular. Kunikida said that he and Taniguchi also envy Kyon for being friend of Haruhi.
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Old 2009-10-19, 14:59   Link #173
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Remember, most of the class only seeing Haruhi's interactions with Kyon in class. They hear rumors of what she's done (such as the bunny girl flyer incident early on, or a few other things the SOS-dan does in public) but not what goes on behind the closed door of the Literary Club. They of course also know about what Haruhi did before she starts the SOS-dan.
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Old 2009-10-19, 15:07   Link #174
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Remember, most of the class only seeing Haruhi's interactions with Kyon in class. They hear rumors of what she's done (such as the bunny girl flyer incident early on, or a few other things the SOS-dan does in public) but not what goes on behind the closed door of the Literary Club. They of course also know about what Haruhi did before she starts the SOS-dan.
Sorry, I didn't understand the point of it. This is suppose to make people be more or less likelly to like her?
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Old 2009-10-19, 15:14   Link #175
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Remember, most of the class only seeing Haruhi's interactions with Kyon in class. They hear rumors of what she's done (such as the bunny girl flyer incident early on, or a few other things the SOS-dan does in public) but not what goes on behind the closed door of the Literary Club. They of course also know about what Haruhi did before she starts the SOS-dan.
THey only know what they've heard and only know what they want to know, and they see Haruhi and Kyon talking-alot-
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Errr, Kyon don't give a danm to Hruhi's powers. He would be her friend even without it. Actually, given her behaviour in late novels, I believe she would have more friends without her powers.
I meant that Koizumi kept Kyon from being GAR. Not that Kyon cares or anything.

Though I don't think he wants to be friends with her. He kind of only talked to her because she's pretty.

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THey only know what they've heard and only know what they want to know, and they see Haruhi and Kyon talking-alot-
I'm not sure what you're inferring here, but that's not enough for people to go "OH. SHE MUST NOT BE A BITCH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING."

Her behaviour in the classroom is enough. Several students and teachers more than likely saw her in the bunny girl outfit. It's not as much a rumor as something some people likely missed and don't like to talk about. It's probably embressing for the school and faculty.

If I'm missing something here, sorry. :C
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Though I don't think he wants to be friends with her. He kind of only talked to her because she's pretty.
I would post something here. But decided moving it to the right place. Give a look at the Haruhi's character thread, please.
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This means that anything she does to Mikuru is likely not known, or at best a rumor. Thus the class wouldn't know about Haruhi treating people like toys, since that is pretty much an internal SOS-dan matter.
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On a random note, what If Sakanaka had powers? You know, cuz Ryoko seemed to be the only one interested in being friends with her and she's an alien
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On a random note, what If Sakanaka had powers? You know, cuz Ryoko seemed to be the only one interested in being friends with her and she's an alien
Sakanaka only has a surname, therefore her having powers is extremely unlikely.
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