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Old 2012-02-16, 02:39   Link #3701
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Well in OMK...

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Old 2012-02-16, 02:59   Link #3702
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^ ...what?

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Either way, there's an appropriate thread for this discussion. Not to mention further opinions there that agree with me.
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Old 2012-02-16, 04:28   Link #3703
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Sigh, FSN is pretty much the same - Decisions in the game (or VN if you will) lead to different story paths and thus different endings. My point, however, was actually to not compare original manga stories (like GE) with eroge/VN due to their differing dynamics and expectations of the readership/audience so I don't know why you bring FSN up.
My argument is that before the anime of Shuffle!/FSN (or whatever adaption went the same way) aired, many viewers were already familiar with all the characters and their endings so production doesn't need to fear to piss off too many people when they make their arbitrary choice. If a manga author pulls this one without development he/she can be sure to have a hard stand with his/her next work.

Does anyone know a manga original example where a definite side char girl wins? ...
Heaven's Feel only has 1 supposed pairing...
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Old 2012-02-16, 07:32   Link #3704
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^ Of course it only has one pairing because it is one of the 3 routes of FSN. Like what Waven was trying to say, tt will be up to the player which scenario he will choose to play. Heaven's feel mainly focuses on one of the 3 heroines of FSN which makes her the main heroine in Heaven's feel while in the other routes(Ultimate Blade Works and Fate) makes her a supporting cast.

I don't think it is really a good idea to use the game (VN or Eroge) as a reference for what you guys are debating since a game have a different routes depending on what will the player will choose. So, in short the side character can win because she can have her own route.
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Old 2012-02-16, 18:34   Link #3705
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Red Hawk is searching a translator for GE!

I hope they will find it!

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Old 2012-02-16, 19:51   Link #3706
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Red Hawk is searching a translator for GE!

I hope they will find it!

Says how popular this drama really is hahahha, same as KNIM, I just wait when they end so that something better can take it place.
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Old 2012-02-17, 06:09   Link #3707
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Says how popular this drama really is hahahha, same as KNIM, I just wait when they end so that something better can take it place.


I just wanna cry...

I really loved this manga untill chapter 87... and now I really wanna see how it ends...

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Old 2012-02-17, 06:36   Link #3708
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I don't think it is really a good idea to use the game (VN or Eroge) as a reference for what you guys are debating since a game have a different routes depending on what will the player will choose. So, in short the side character can win because she can have her own route.
Yes and no. Generally, the side characters or supporting characters tend to have their own routes only in a fandisc. Every dateable girl is usually considered as main cast because not every VN has a canon ending or a true route (True route = Fortune Arterial), unless the anime decides to make one couple "offical" (Da Capo 1, Shuffle!, Clannad) in case of an adaption.
But, it might not always be obvious who is a side character and who is main cast if one does not check a walkthrough or the offical website.

Fate Stay/Night is a bit of an exception because, if I remember it right, you have a forced play order of Fate -> Unlimited Blade Work > Heaven's Feel and can only choose backwards (i. e. from UBW to Fate or Heaven's Feel to UBW/Fate).
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Old 2012-02-17, 10:23   Link #3709
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Old 2012-02-17, 11:56   Link #3710
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very cliché but a good chapter
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Old 2012-02-18, 11:04   Link #3711
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very cliché but a good chapter
So cliche. So, so cliche.

At least he didn't get a nosebleed.
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Old 2012-02-18, 14:31   Link #3712
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^ ...what?

Spoiler for What?:


Either way, there's an appropriate thread for this discussion. Not to mention further opinions there that agree with me.
Not really

Spoiler for why:


But yeah we should stop discussing it here.
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Old 2012-02-22, 07:40   Link #3713
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Chapter 115 : Ah ah great chapter !
Spoiler for 115:
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Old 2012-02-22, 08:03   Link #3714
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It was a nice chapter (115), specially the last page, but....something feels wrong, Utsumi and Shou are happy
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Old 2012-02-22, 08:06   Link #3715
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What a nice chapter...nice ch 115..i liked it..

Utsumi is an idiot..for how he spoke of Yuki like this with Shou..but, i liked the end of this chapter...Shou is really cute..she is like a baby girl
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Old 2012-02-22, 08:08   Link #3716
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Could've been worse and the chapter title called 'Warm Yellow Snow' instead...

Utsumi learned a valuable lesson. NEVER tell your new girlfriend about how good of a time you had with an ex, NEVER!
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Old 2012-02-22, 09:42   Link #3717
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Could've been worse and the chapter title called 'Warm Yellow Snow' instead...

Utsumi learned a valuable lesson. NEVER tell your new girlfriend about how good of a time you had with an ex, NEVER!
I know right, Utsumi no baka -_-!. The chapter was great up until he stated talking about Yuki, but the ending totally made up for it.

In my opinion, I still think that Shou is nothing more than a rebound girl rather than an actually love interest. I just hope that Usumi gets his act together and sticks with Shou (she's my favourite heroine btw) and if it doesn't work out I hope he goes for Oonuma the hot busty clumsy kouhai.

I rather have those two end up with him rather than Yuki because I personally find her to be an annoying wishy washy whiny bitch.
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Old 2012-02-22, 19:58   Link #3718
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Seriously... How many times does this Idiot need to realize he is an Idiot for him to stop being an Idiot!

"I'm an Idiot aren't I?"
"I'm an Idiot"
"Idiot, what am I doing."
"I really am an Idiot"

Seriously?...
Kimi no Iru disappointed but this guy just plainly pissed me off!

Give it a chapter or two and he will start swooning over Yuki again and followed by "I'm such an Idiot" =_=
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Old 2012-02-23, 10:09   Link #3719
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I really don't like where this manga is going. I thought that the "Shou arc" finished when she kissed him and said goodbye in the locker room that time. It was a poignant way to end their awkward attempts at a romance. Utsumi had moved on from his feelings for Shou. For the author to suddenly resurrect their connection to the point of having them date just feels wrong. If she wanted to have Utsumi break from Yuki for a while, she should have had him date a new girl, maybe like the photography kouhai (remember her? anyone?). That would feel like actual progress, instead of having Utsumi just going in circles between Shou/Yuki/Shou/Yuki.

Plus, we all know that Shou is just a rebound and that this will end badly. So, all the time spent "developing" this relationship just feels like a waste of time and energy.
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Old 2012-02-23, 15:17   Link #3720
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All I have to say to the doubter is beware of "Pastel Ending"... wait what ending?
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