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Old 2010-05-16, 17:35   Link #1181
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Maybe if there would be good numbers of the decent enough romance stories then there would be less of this moaning. It is not funny nor weird when you consider lack of good romance focused shounen series.

You what go read... KNIM, GE or Umi No Misaki... thats pretty much it... Nene days is crap (both artwork and the story), Manaka days doesn't even have male character with face... Rinko days would be the best choice but it comes only once in a month...

B Gata H Kei is not really a romance... has romance in it but mostly just 4coma perverted jokes.

What else... Q and A? Its not even clear that it has all that much romance in it and so far seems to be like one of the worst Adachi's manga's in the making...

Omamori Himari - silly, completely unrealistic harem fantasy... The World God Only Knows - pretty good, but more fantasy comedy and romance always gets a reset button treatment...

Nana to Kaoru, pretty good but only for SM lovers and romance is still rather vague not to mention that it comes out rarely.

Lock-On? - Yeah riiiiight.

Amagami - Precious Diary is probably the only good competitor at this rate... And in fact I like it over KNIM or GE. But that's pretty much it.

So its not really that funny when you think about - there are just no good ongoing romance shounen manga's... and if you want the romance you end up going back to KNIM or GE simply because of the lack of such manga's in general, rather than the two series being that captivating or yourself being sadomasochistic.
ane doki, bitter virgin, ichigo 100%, love hina, lilim kiss, and no bra are all pretty good. Ane doki, if not cancelled, could have easily matched KNIM and GE. Bitter virgin by far passes all of them. ichigo 100% could be compared to KNIM in some ways, but they seem pretty equal . Sora no otoshiono is ok too, although it only sometimes focuses on romance, mostly on fantasy and pervertedness. and mahou sensei negima is ok as well, abeit mostly fantasy , can be viewed as a harem romance. kinda. not reallly. maybe a lil bit..
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Old 2010-05-16, 17:39   Link #1182
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ane doki, bitter virgin, ichigo 100%, love hina, lilim kiss, and no bra are all pretty good. Ane doki, if not cancelled, could have easily matched KNIM and GE. Bitter virgin by far passes all of them. ichigo 100% could be compared to KNIM in some ways, but they seem pretty equal . Sora no otoshiono is ok too, although it only sometimes focuses on romance, mostly on fantasy and pervertedness
Not with the author poor story telling writing skills. Unless your consider a bunch of filler drag out of nothing but fanservice to be good story telling. And the only reason we got story development towards the end of that series was because it was getting cancelled.
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Old 2010-05-16, 18:01   Link #1183
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ane doki, bitter virgin, ichigo 100%, love hina, lilim kiss, and no bra are all pretty good. Ane doki, if not cancelled, could have easily matched KNIM and GE. Bitter virgin by far passes all of them. ichigo 100% could be compared to KNIM in some ways, but they seem pretty equal . Sora no otoshiono is ok too, although it only sometimes focuses on romance, mostly on fantasy and pervertedness. and mahou sensei negima is ok as well, abeit mostly fantasy , can be viewed as a harem romance. kinda. not reallly. maybe a lil bit..
And how many of these stories are ONGOING? Exactly.

MSN is fantasy and romance, though played bit bigger role in the beginning in the end was pushed aside for the adventure, fantasy and fanservice, that was one of the reason I dropped it.

And Ane Doki had no story progression and this whole potential where just those few chapters that were pulled out by the author by force because her ass was burning on the cancellation frying pan.

Ane Doki was just beating and beating around the bush and the only progression happened because it was getting canceled. Face it - the mangaka has pretty horrible story telling skills, despite her artwork being great.
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Old 2010-05-16, 19:41   Link #1184
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The storyline went all over the place and never really felt coherent. For every moment that felt significant, it seemed like it was retconned right after and now we've got an epilogue that teases even more. I liked parts of it but the whole is a mess.
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Old 2010-05-16, 23:20   Link #1185
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I have the feeling that Kawashita (Ane Doki mangaka) had planned only the beginning and near the ending... Basically how the guy met her and how rejoined her after the timeskip...

But she did not know what to do with the story in between, she just hoped that fanservice would help her to float around for plenty of chapters and once it starts getting weak she can do the time skip and that then the story somehow would work out...

Maybe she could have the story ending more based on the polls like with Ichigo, rather than her own planning again.

But she did not see alarming sounds and then the story started to sink and when Kawashita noticed it, it was too late...

It was like.

"Oh shi-. Wait! I still havent done the time skip and stuff after it."

But no one were interested by that point.

Though to tell the truth she could hardly see the downfall be so rapid, because they did not even wait for the sales results. If anything Medaka Box should have been a cushion for it and as later sales proved (they were higher than Medaka Box) it would have been right...

Still though her story was disfunctional and barely moving, and though she had some smaller portion planned (time skip) she just did not knew what was about the story in between and as a result you have... Ane-doki, manga whiich will be very soon completely forgotten and remembered only by Kawashita fans...

Anyways, this should be about GE and not Ane-Doki or other stuff...

My main point is that there are so little decent shounen romances that would not include cat-girls, mages, vampires, zombies or runaway spirits that you barely have the choice and end up still reading either of the two titles in any case...

I would take Blod Alone over either of two at any day, but it is not really a romance...

So far the more realistic romances that can compate with these two are Umi no Misaki, Amagami and Rinko days... but they do not come out nearly as often...
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Old 2010-05-17, 00:09   Link #1186
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ane doki, bitter virgin, ichigo 100%, love hina, lilim kiss, and no bra are all pretty good. Ane doki, if not cancelled, could have easily matched KNIM and GE. Bitter virgin by far passes all of them. ichigo 100% could be compared to KNIM in some ways, but they seem pretty equal . Sora no otoshiono is ok too, although it only sometimes focuses on romance, mostly on fantasy and pervertedness. and mahou sensei negima is ok as well, abeit mostly fantasy , can be viewed as a harem romance. kinda. not reallly. maybe a lil bit..
The ones that you mentioned arent ongoing. We were talking about current ongoing romance shounen mangas
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Old 2010-05-18, 08:16   Link #1187
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Seeing as the translation for this manga seems quite delayed, would anyone be interested in a rough translation of chapters 34 and 35 raws which are already out? If so they wouldn't be as good as the regular scanlations but I could probably get them out in a day or two.

Also are there any rules against posting any translated chapters here?
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Old 2010-05-18, 08:54   Link #1188
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Seeing as the translation for this manga seems quite delayed, would anyone be interested in a rough translation of chapters 34 and 35 raws which are already out? If so they wouldn't be as good as the regular scanlations but I could probably get them out in a day or two.

Also are there any rules against posting any translated chapters here?
Nope. Just make sure the translations are in spoiler tags and people know what they are and you're all set.
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Old 2010-05-19, 07:42   Link #1189
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Raws for 36 are out. Again, to protect the privacy of the raw provider, I'll do a brief summary. :P

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Old 2010-05-19, 08:46   Link #1190
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Raws for 36 are out. Again, to protect the privacy of the raw provider, I'll do a brief summary. :P

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Cookies, say Tooru comes back in the picture to ruin everything
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Old 2010-05-19, 08:48   Link #1191
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Cookies, say Tooru comes back in the picture to ruin everything
Oh, that's already been brought up quite a few times on the OM discussion boards. Heh. :P You know it's going to happen at some point.
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Old 2010-05-19, 10:41   Link #1192
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Oh, that's already been brought up quite a few times on the OM discussion boards. Heh. :P You know it's going to happen at some point.
this is as much happy time he (they) can get, it's GE we're talking about after all
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Old 2010-05-19, 11:32   Link #1193
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this is as much happy time he (they) can get, it's GE we're talking about after all
Too true. Too bad the manga's on break next week. I'm on vacation from work, too, and no chapter. Happened to me last time I was on vacation, it was Golden Week then. :P
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Old 2010-05-19, 11:42   Link #1194
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At least this story is progressing in a good manner. Of course there will be pitfalls, but the main guy is actually evolving for the better. I think the tennis trip is going to be the next pitfall since the girl he used to like is single again and will try to be intimate with Ucchi.
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Old 2010-05-19, 12:18   Link #1195
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At least this story is progressing in a good manner. Of course there will be pitfalls, but the main guy is actually evolving for the better.
Spoiler for well:
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Old 2010-05-19, 12:34   Link #1196
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Most of us don't know that. Then again character development seems to be a case of one step forward two step back shuffle... Sometimes three steps forward. The Tennis trip should be interesting in a how can this get any better/worse.
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Old 2010-05-19, 12:47   Link #1197
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That was meant as a joke, Utsumi's biggest charm points are he is a "doofus", just like how he fades away, and like some other manga character who used to commit "Seppuku" at the most trivial of things. These are supposed to be comedic and not taken seriously (even Izumi typing that text non-chalantly just showed no one was taking this seriously, Sasuga meant to humour us) since GE has no filler arcs, GE humour has always been these funny way Utsumi reacts making big things out of nothing (like the recent Bakuman showed funny while trying not to be funny, ). Utsumi's honesty, and these adorable simplicity things is what Yuki likes in him. He mans up and does things when he needs to.
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Old 2010-05-19, 13:41   Link #1198
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What I meant was instead of being on the sidelines so to speak, Ucchi is becoming bold, not timid like before. Problem is he acts first, then thinks about the consequenes. That's improvement. Before he would just watch and not act at all. Sure he can be a drama queen, but he is showing improvement and accpeting heartbreak. Now he will have his lapses, but old habits are hard to break.
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Old 2010-05-19, 13:51   Link #1199
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I dont see anything humorous in that overreaction. In fact it is worse than just like running away after confessing. So his manning up is still very doubtful.
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I found it funny because it was meant to be comedic. You're taking it too seriously.
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