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View Poll Results: Bakemonogatari - Episode 12 Rating
Perfect 10 271 79.94%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 41 12.09%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 13 3.83%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 1.47%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 0.59%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 0.59%
4 out of 10 : Poor 2 0.59%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 0.88%
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Old 2009-10-02, 16:02   Link #321
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Whoa.. "date not set" - that means we don't know when the remaining three will be released!? I thought it was going to continue each week as if it aired normally. O_O
Yeah, I was hoping so too, but it's already past the usual Tokyo MX air date/time, and still nothing... :\

I do want them to take their time and do a good job but at least some news would be nice...
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Old 2009-10-02, 16:18   Link #322
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Oh so I read the novel spoilers wrong

Oh well thanks for correcting me.
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Old 2009-10-02, 17:35   Link #323
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so with 3 more episodes, I assume classrep-chan will probably go cat mode and start biting peoples again.

This adds to my speculation that cats are evil.


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You obviously haven't read my post. *hey hey.. I'm allowed to gloat now and then. It's not that often I can follow a plot. *
mmm Interesting post O_O

If that is so, doesnt it mean evil classrep-chan will be gunning for him O_o
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Old 2009-10-03, 00:27   Link #324
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so with 3 more episodes, I assume classrep-chan will probably go cat mode and start biting peoples again.

This adds to my speculation that cats are evil.
Someone once said that if cats were scaly and reptilian, we'd know them for the psychopathic ruthless demons that they are.
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Old 2009-10-03, 07:47   Link #325
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Someone once said that if cats were scaly and reptilian, we'd know them for the psychopathic ruthless demons that they are.
Hey, hey! I used to have a cat too you know! She was an angel!

Well, I'm not doubting that Hanekawa had a thing for Koyomi since they first met. That's probably another reason why her stress levels went so high, considering Koyomi is naturally anti-social. Him getting together with Senjougahara added insult to the injuries she was already taking from her parents and the problems that caused her.
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Old 2009-10-03, 16:58   Link #326
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Hey, hey! I used to have a cat too you know! She was an angel!
That's what they want you to think. ^_~
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Old 2009-10-04, 17:52   Link #327
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Just to clarify... I've had cats in my home all my life (you don't "own" a cat ). I just happen to know they cast illusion spells to fool humans.
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Old 2009-10-04, 19:38   Link #328
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Cats are like cuckoos. Just like cuckoos lay their eggs in the nests of other birds and have marking reminiscent of other birds to trigger parental instincts, cats have features of human babies that make us want to take care of and love them. It's all very biological.
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Old 2009-10-05, 06:55   Link #329
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Just watched 12 episodes straight, good thing I learned there were 3 more episodes to explain the Cat Arc. I hope to see all of the girls Koyomi met to interact soon lol. Except maybe the ghost girl since no one can see her.

Can someone confirm? I noticed there are a lot of censoring in this series , is it REALLY VOILENT & GORY? like Elfen Lied? Well if they do animate the censored parts in the DVDs/BLue Ray, I'd watch this series again just to see them.
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Old 2009-10-05, 07:16   Link #330
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Censored? You mean like the pink blood in episode 8? I'm pretty sure SHAFT did that on purpose.
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Old 2009-10-05, 07:32   Link #331
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Just watched 12 episodes straight, good thing I learned there were 3 more episodes to explain the Cat Arc. I hope to see all of the girls Koyomi met to interact soon lol. Except maybe the ghost girl since no one can see her.

Can someone confirm? I noticed there are a lot of censoring in this series , is it REALLY VOILENT & GORY? like Elfen Lied? Well if they do animate the censored parts in the DVDs/BLue Ray, I'd watch this series again just to see them.
Pretty sure it was just SHAFT not finishing the scenes in time because they were trying to be too pretentious . Nevertheless (with the exception of episode 10), much of it was was animated, and of course awesome.
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Old 2009-10-05, 11:03   Link #332
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Pretty sure it was just SHAFT not finishing the scenes in time because they were trying to be too pretentious . Nevertheless (with the exception of episode 10), much of it was was animated, and of course awesome.
When you say too pretentious what exactly you mean ?
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:11   Link #333
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When you say too pretentious what exactly you mean ?
Their expectations to be able to animate the entire episode were too high but they ended up biting off more than they could chew. In other words, they rushed too much and ended up being too constrained for time (and money). That's how I'm reading it anyways. I always thought that the black and red flashes was just SHAFT's style, but they abused it horribly for ep 10.
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Old 2009-10-05, 15:19   Link #334
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Their expectations to be able to animate the entire episode were too high but they ended up biting off more than they could chew. In other words, they rushed too much and ended up being too constrained for time (and money). That's how I'm reading it anyways. I always thought that the black and red flashes was just SHAFT's style, but they abused it horribly for ep 10.
I am still not understanding.

Where was the pretense ?

The example you gave is not being "too pretentious...", rather it is an example of bad time and resource management.

If they were successful and quick in all of their initial animation goals would they still be pretentious ?
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I am still not understanding.

Where was the pretense ?

The example you gave is not being "too pretentious...", rather it is an example of bad time and resource management.

If they were successful and quick in all of their initial animation goals would they still be pretentious ?
A definition of being pretentious is to make demands of one's skills, ability or means. SHAFT took on the pretentious task of carrying out the animation for Bakemonogatari. However, they were too pretentious, as in making too many demands of their own abilities and ended up trying to do more than they could have. Like I said, their expectations were way too high, as they found out later, resulting in their being constrained for time and money.
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Old 2009-10-05, 16:45   Link #336
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A definition of being pretentious is to make demands of one's skills, ability or means. SHAFT took on the pretentious task of carrying out the animation for Bakemonogatari. However, they were too pretentious, as in making too many demands of their own abilities and ended up trying to do more than they could have. Like I said, their expectations were way too high, as they found out later, resulting in their being constrained for time and money.

Huh ?

You realize that what you wrote is the verbal equivalent of a snake swallowing its own tail ?
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Old 2009-10-05, 17:45   Link #337
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It is quite fitting an allegory, then.
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Old 2009-10-07, 05:25   Link #338
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Very late to the party, but I finally got around to watching this.

Three words: BEST. EPISODE. EVER.

That is all.
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Old 2009-10-07, 05:43   Link #339
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Oh, the stargazing scenes were just... perfect, I agree. Everything else was simply icing on the cake, for me.
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Old 2009-10-10, 15:37   Link #340
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Lol.. gendou's va doing the part as the "irresponsible father" as the character puts it himself in the story.. funny.
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