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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 14 Rating
Perfect 10 27 19.15%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 26 18.44%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 29 20.57%
7 out of 10 : Good 30 21.28%
6 out of 10 : Average 14 9.93%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 9 6.38%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.71%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 5 3.55%
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Old 2009-10-01, 14:37   Link #101
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Well, I'll need to wait for the subs to make a proper review, but first I'd like to say a little something.

Spoiler for opinions:

Now then, my thoughts on the episode itself...

Spoiler for mini-review:

I won't rate until I see it with subs, but as it stands I'm feeling about 6/10 right now. If not for the epitaph scene, I'd say that EP3 is looking much better off than EP2 by this point.

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Old 2009-10-01, 14:48   Link #102
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you worry about a silly fight scene? what about the size of that 10 ton of GOLD!!! EHEH

Anyway people were b___ing it on 4chan and many people really have no concept of how big of a pile 10 tons of gold is. Let's just say it's a lot smaller than you thing.
It's probably too much to expect your average 4channer to know that gold is one of the densest elements on the planet.

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Don't tell me that DEEN actually went and researched the dimensions of 10 tons of gold...

On the other hand, 10 tons of gold suddenly doesn't seem quite as impressive anymore
When you consider how rare gold is and the fact that it is valued in the range of 1,050 USD per ounce it does. I did a few rough calculations (in reality I am terrible at math) and I believe that pile is worth USD $364,732,126.

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Old 2009-10-01, 14:58   Link #103
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I want to know what the anime-only audience thinks of this episode. They do not know the maze of the VN, so they were the most blessed in watching this episode.

Beatrice's laugh was perfect in the Battler-dejection scene. Ahahahahaha. =)
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Old 2009-10-01, 15:37   Link #104
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I want to know what the anime-only audience thinks of this episode. They do not know the maze of the VN, so they were the most blessed in watching this episode.
I'm an anime only watcher, and yet again i enjoyed this episode quite a bit. I just love the major scenes between Beato and Battler, and the magic battle was nicely animated, and at the same time very interesting to experience. It could have been a little longer, though i didn't want them to over do it.
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Old 2009-10-01, 15:56   Link #105
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where are my suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubs T________T :cries:
They've been out for quite a while.
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Old 2009-10-01, 16:46   Link #106
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Ya know what, just got done watching the sub, and it wasn't as horrible as everyone seems to be playing it up as.
Most of it was very close and I didn't mind the short battle or even just Eva figuring out because in the novel I didn't even get what kyrie was talking about or how it even really helped.
As for music, to be honest in the novel i'd sometimes get really annoyed with the music and kinda just turn it down. The tracks that were there seemed fine to me, will this ever be a perfect adaption? No, but you really shouldn't expect it to be, if the anime took all the things the novel has in it then I think my attention would wander, but hey that may be good for non visual novel people.
As for quality, Maybe a couple off things here and there but i'm not really one to act like the worlds about the end over it.

This war of the VN players and Non-VN players should just be splashed with water. Going through a show not bothering to really care doesnt make anyone really want to look at your opinion and say you have a point, more or less it makes ME sit there and wonder if you're just trolling or intentionally being ignorant.
8/10
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Old 2009-10-01, 17:26   Link #107
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So that's who Virgilia is. Also new ED.
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Old 2009-10-01, 17:47   Link #108
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Watched the episode,finally,its getting interesting~!
And even though it was rather short,the magic battle was cool,i wonder if there will any more scenes like it~
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Old 2009-10-01, 18:27   Link #109
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Rating... gee, I dunno - probably an eight I guess. It was good but it's competing against the version I had in my head and I liked that better, honestly.

You've got to streamline things a good bit for a visual medium, no shame there. It does seem like we're skipping past most of Kyrie's moments though.

Next episode sets up what's probably my favorite scene in the novel so I'm cautiously optimistic about it.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:17   Link #110
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After reading forum and all the new infos
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so who would be in the next twilight? right now there are two potential candidate pairings. I don't think they would kill off Eva and her husband in the 2nd twilight again.

and to the person who likes to spam red text: if as the stand alone this series bring enjoyment to the first time watchers, it's decent. Even if there's an even more awesome original work still don't mean that this series is crap.
At least the series didn't massively change the plot, the character interaction/development, and wuss out the protagonist like the one other series that just finished recently. The whole premise is still there, and I still feel intrigued by the storyline, even if some of the VN players said the overall presentation is a bit "lacking".
I normally treat it as an introduction to the general plot of the VN. If I like the story (which I still do), I normally would go and look for other mediums (eg. VN, Manga) that might present the umineko world better.
I don't know....maybe seeing too many fan arts actually helps to know the characters developments that might've been lacking in the series.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:19   Link #111
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So we got Virgilia taking Battler's side of the game now eh? I find it pretty amusing that now with her help he's managing to back Beato into a corner, almost to the point where she was throwing a childlike tantrum. =p

The fight scene was short but nicely executed, the end result was definetly a surprise.

Thing is though, I wonder what room that is that Eva found the gold in...and what is the sweetfish river exactly?

Also due to the less-than-average quality of the video I was watching I couldn't read the translation of the bloody text on the door very well. =/
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:20   Link #112
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So we got Virgilia taking Battler's side of the game now eh? I find it pretty amusing that now with her help he's managing to back Beato into a corner, almost to the point where she was throwing a childlike tantrum. =p

The fight scene was short but nicely executed, the end result was definetly a surprise.

Thing is though, I wonder what room that is that Eva found the gold in...and what is the sweetfish river exactly?

Also due to the less-than-average quality of the video I was watching I couldn't read the translation of the bloody text on the door very well. =/
On the tenth twilight, the journey will end and you should reach the village of gold.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:22   Link #113
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The bloody text on the door just said the 10th twilight line of the epitaph;

"At the tenth twilight, the journey shall end and you should reach the village of gold."
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:29   Link #114
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:34   Link #115
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Few things:
  • Post in this thread only if you are going to talk about episode 14.
  • If you are going to talk about the Visual Novel in a manner that does not correlate to the episode discussion at hand, then do NOT post in the thread. Locate the appropriate VN thread, and pour your heart out. This much whining and whinging can't be good for those viewers who are watching this material for the first time. Yes, we get it. The production value for most DEEN show sucks. So what else is new? There is no point in beating the same dead horse.

    The bottom line is if you are not going to talk about the episode at hand, then do NOT post in the episode discussion thread.
  • All opinions, negative or positive, are welcome. There is absolutely no need to jump on someone's throat just because he or she persistently staying negative. You are giving way too much attention than need be. More so if it is true when you believe the poster in question is just trolling. And let's not forget that you are also driving the thread off-topic from the intended discussion at hand by responding and by engaging in this kind of pointless back and forth bickering.

A bunch of posts had to be removed as result. If the thread continues to go off-topic, then further measure will be taken to bring order. There will be a lot of hurt feelings, I assure you.

Please get back on topic! Once again, post here only if you are going to talk about episode 14.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:52   Link #116
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I really liked this episode, the fight was nice and the meta-battle was intriguing, I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MUSIC, JESUS CHRIST.

Also, I have a little question (no spoilers please), for what possible reason would Donove stop Beato in the middle of that sentence? Did that also happen in the VN? How could it damage beato to make that statement?
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:56   Link #117
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Anime-only viewer here.

I really liked this episode, the fight was nice and the meta-battle was intriguing, I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MUSIC, JESUS CHRIST.

Also, I have a little question (no spoilers please), for what possible reason would Donove stop Beato in the middle of that sentence? Did that also happen in the VN? How could it damage beato to make that statement?
Ronove prevented Beato to make a careless move. Just think of chess. Any wrong move will affect the course of the game.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:57   Link #118
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Well I enjoyed this one overall. Like for once that Battler finally got a solid victory and Beatrice actually had to step back...err I mean be dragged away. I think Battler really does need someone that is standing in his corner to give him a bit of help. He can come up with some good ideas but it's easier to stand firm when you don't feel completely isolated. Virgilia was huge in this for helping restore his confidence. She may have lost the magical firefight but she did well while being off the board.

So someone actually went and solved the riddle this time around? Well that should change things up. Even though the magic has been pretty flashy things are going in an interesting direction. Curious to see what will happen in the next one.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:58   Link #119
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I wound up giving this episode an 8. It wasn't as bad as I feared it would be. The main failings were in animation quality (and how), and the lack of epitaph discussion. Weirdly I didn't mind the cuts to the magic fight. I loved the convo between Battler and Virgilia and the meta-battle.
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Old 2009-10-01, 21:58   Link #120
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Beato was getting worked up and about to say something she shouldn't. Ronove noticed that and stopped her. The red truth is a double edge sword. It destroys Battler's theories but it also leads him closer to the truth. Using it carelessly would be bad for her.
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