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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 18 Rating
Perfect 10 95 49.22%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 52 26.94%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 23 11.92%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 5.18%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 2.07%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.52%
4 out of 10 : Poor 2 1.04%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.52%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.52%
1 out of 10 : Painful 4 2.07%
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Old 2009-10-30, 03:09   Link #161
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Also, who trolls, and who is trolled? And why?
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Old 2009-10-30, 03:14   Link #162
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Also, who trolls, and who is trolled? And why?

Are you serious with that question.




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The people who got trolled are us. The mischief's who did the trolling are Virgilia and Beatrice. The Cause of shock mostly is coming from Virgilia managing to fool most of the entire user base with her mature and sturdy personalty and Beatrice for fooling us with her Tsun-Dere tactics laying down some brutal backstabbin' on Battler.
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Old 2009-10-30, 04:31   Link #163
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Old 2009-10-30, 04:37   Link #164
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Fantastic episode..
It lived up to all my expectations.. Even with a few cuts here and there, I can't imagine a better execution given the time restraints..
This one deserves a 10/10
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Old 2009-10-30, 04:48   Link #165
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Really good epi, a bit sad cause no red web, but the trolling act was good until the end
Cause i'm not a freaking fan of the vn design i can't complain with the Deen work, same thing for the bgm, HoM was good to listening but not so awesome as always for me
For the story well, finally we return to see the cruel witches and not the annoying smiling and crying ones, cause was really really annoying to see always, but as I have already mentioned, for me this is only the first step for hating Beato
And at the end well, liked Virgilia evil smirk and see Siestas hugging and freakin out together
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Old 2009-10-30, 05:25   Link #166
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From what I understand, it's more like a game reset than parallel universes. Each time they play the game, something different happens because that's the nature of a game like chess... no two games will be the same.

Everyone is resettable except the meta-characters (meta-Battler, meta-Beatrice, meta-Virgillia?)

Which is why I didn't really expect Beatrice to die from Eva-Beato's attacks. And I guess this means Beatrice was the one true Endless Witch all along and we all just got trolled?

So the board was reset again, but this time a piece-Ange has been placed on the board? Did Bernkastel pulling her through time-space create a meta-Ange as well? Will she be alongside Battler in the metaverse?

Or am I supposed to not believe in time-travel magic and doubt the existence of Agne first of all.
Trying not to be spoiler-ish, but just in case anyway:

Spoiler for answer:
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Old 2009-10-30, 05:54   Link #167
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Are you serious with that question.




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The people who got trolled are us. The mischief's who did the trolling are Virgilia and Beatrice. The Cause of shock mostly is coming from Virgilia managing to fool most of the entire user base with her mature and sturdy personalty and Beatrice for fooling us with her Tsun-Dere tactics laying down some brutal backstabbin' on Battler.
Are you sure she was completely acting? She seemed hesitant to bust out the troll face at one point...
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Old 2009-10-30, 06:11   Link #168
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Are you sure she was completely acting? She seemed hesitant to bust out the troll face at one point...
That might also be an acting. We never know :P
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Old 2009-10-30, 06:28   Link #169
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What? The highest you can give is 10?

Absolutely amazing. Happiness of Marionette, Ange, everything.
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Old 2009-10-30, 08:56   Link #170
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There were several instances in the game where Battler or Beato yelled, "Ushiromiya Evaaaaaaa!!!" and I was looking forward to hearing them voiced! Well, you can't get everything, I guess.

All in all, a fine episode, despite various cuts and all. They at least did that blunt transition from the light of truth to Crazy!Eva well, so I'm happy. That scene still scares me even after so many replays.

8/10
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Old 2009-10-30, 09:09   Link #171
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There were several instances in the game where Battler or Beato yelled, "Ushiromiya Evaaaaaaa!!!" and I was looking forward to hearing them voiced! Well, you can't get everything, I guess.
Ah yes, it was a really nice transition between the meta-battle and Eva shooting Battler
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Beato: "Come, show yourself. Show your true form, Ushiromiya Eva!!!"
Well it's not anything important but just felt epic in the novel
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Old 2009-10-30, 09:15   Link #172
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Old 2009-10-30, 09:46   Link #173
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If it's not in red, you can't trust it...
But Eva is obviously the only one surviving until 1998.
And i don't think that this scene is faked. It was for audience only.

The rest died and Eva survived somehow...
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Old 2009-10-30, 09:51   Link #174
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I don't care. I will just set on Bernkastel and Lambdadelta.
Beatrice is weaker than both.
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:04   Link #175
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Yeah I kinda firgured it'd all be an act. She was being way too weird, surprised Battler seriously fell for it. Guess he just likes that kinda girl, eh?

Buuut..... I'm really bothered with how they left things with Nanjo's death. If Eva really was the killer as the ending implied that would mean Beato-Eva was lying in red on at least one of the things she said. Does that mean the entire premise that the red words are always the truth is incorrect? I suspect it's simply what the individual "believes" is true. So Beatrice (The "Real" One) can delude them into saying what she wants them to by changing their perception. Am I onto something or way off?
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:17   Link #176
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okay so:

-Virgilia and Beato lolwhat
-normal tea party was pretty, Levia nee and Satan even changed hairstyles lol
-Siestas freaking out and running randomly was utterly cute, how can somebody not love it:
Spoiler:

-His power level is OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!
-"Aishiteru wa Berunkasuteru" <3
- Dread of the Grave, Happiness of the Marionette and that lovely melody at Magical Party <3
-Ange is god o_O,her entrance was just too epic, i wouldnt expect her just pwnd'ing everybody with karate, lol i guess its not just Eva in Ushiromiya family that likes martial arts
-talking about Eva, something wasnt right. Its not possible for MILF to change into worn out zombie in 12 years, its was completely completely stupid ;D
-talking about pwnding
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-poor poor Eva Beatrice, i wonder what happened to her.
-Kanon said Jessica, i was sure he will say it with -sama, but it was just "Jessica", what a good boy <3 Im starting to like him
-Oh, Lambda you cute little psycho you <3
-Anges objection, you can call without any knowledge that she is his sister ;D
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-Battler doesnt recognize his own sister -_-
-"Zen Zen Dame da " <3
-I love Anges voice
-Epic floating Bern <3
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-1998 scene was so pretty (except of course zombie Eva)
-Is Ange an instant witch if Bern just called her Ange-Beatrice?
-whole episode <3

i only didnt like how they narrow down ???? tea party, (as always btw) i wanted to see more threatening Beato and Lambda-tan
i hope they will use Mirage Coordinator in some apropriate occasion then...

now for 4 arc, i cant wait to see witches, siestas stakes, and everything more <3
and i want to see new opening already

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In the end she was still a piece. And was thus reset with the end of the game
how she was a piece if she could play a game?
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:39   Link #177
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Buuut..... I'm really bothered with how they left things with Nanjo's death. If Eva really was the killer as the ending implied that would mean Beato-Eva was lying in red on at least one of the things she said. Does that mean the entire premise that the red words are always the truth is incorrect?
The thing about it is..... is there actually any proof Eva killed anyone besides Battler (and at this point she's clearly goddamn nuts)? It's possible that the third arc is meant to mislead into thinking Eva's the culprit, even though she's generally innocent - (possible comparisons to Vera Claythorne go here). And what contradictions in the red truth, as there's a very obvious loophole out of this - someone else (Kyrie, perhaps) killed Nanjo and then died later.
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:44   Link #178
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Won't change the fact that she somehow managed to survive up until 1998 whereas everyone else died.
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:45   Link #179
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Awesome episode! =D
many touching scenes, especially when Beato's sacrificied herself!
I also love Ange & Bern's scene' too~ =3
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Old 2009-10-30, 10:46   Link #180
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We don't even know whether Eva killed Battler or not.
We only see that she points her gun at Battler then hear the gun shot.
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