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Old 2003-11-19, 01:14   Link #1
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gay and lesbian... taboo?

why have i never seen this in an anime?(and I've seen a hefty amount((excluding hentai))Is it a iffy subject or sumthin,is there any out there with it in it?Is japan open about the subject or not.I dont know why im curious about this its jus wierd when you see incest extreme gore and all the other craziness in anime but not homosexuality
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Old 2003-11-19, 01:19   Link #2
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I believe that they made "Gravitation" into anime... Yup, back in the '90s, it looks like, but I don't know of very many shounen-ai/lesbian titles that got the same treatment.

Would there be many groups fighting - in a manner of speaking - to sub a title in this genre, though?
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Old 2003-11-19, 03:23   Link #3
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er Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito has some lesbianism you might wanna check it out. I think its more of an fanservice kinda thing though.
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Old 2003-11-19, 06:12   Link #4
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Both types of homosexuality occur frequently enough to have genres with names (several names in the case of male homosexuality). You obviously just haven't seen any of them.
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Old 2003-11-19, 06:17   Link #5
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Right now im watching two series that have gay and lesbian characters. Read or Die has lots of Lesbian undercurrent and also Fruits Basket has at least one male character that is in love with another. Both are awsome and both licensed so I guess it's cool in the States too.
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Old 2003-11-19, 20:35   Link #6
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Actually, homosexual themes seem to occur quite often in anime.

There's Saber Marionette J, Otaru's friend, Hanagata seems to want him.

Then there's Sailor Moon, there is a lesbian couple in that one. I'm not that familiar with them so I don't know their names.

Onegai Twins seems to show a guy who's atleast bisexual.

Not to mention that series Graviton they were talking about.

It seems that homosexuality is shown far more prevalent in Japan than anywhere else that I've seen. It appears to be far more acceptable there than anywhere else, that I've noticed anyway.
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Old 2003-11-22, 02:17   Link #7
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Here's some anime with Homosexuals in it:

Gravitation
Sailor Moon
Card Captor Sakura
Fushigi Yuugi
El Hazard
Yami no Matsuei (Descendants of Darkness)
And (sniffle sniffle) possibly Peacemaker Kurogane, though I hope I'm wrong
Cowboy Bebop (1 episode, side characters, but rather ...not a pleasant scene)
Rurouni Kenshin
Fruits Basket (at least bisexual)

For incest: Ayashi no Ceres

This is just off the top of my head
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Old 2003-11-22, 17:46   Link #8
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X TV Series kinda feels like it sometimes between Kamui and Fuma.
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Old 2003-11-22, 19:43   Link #9
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there are plenty OVA series out there that feature male/male relations, like there is Zetsu Ai, Kizuna, Level C, Boku No Sexual Harrassment and really the list goes on. If you mean mainstream then most of us are familiar with Gravitation and Yami No Matsuei whos main characters are gay males.

So really, I dont think Japan has such a shortage of these types of content.
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Old 2003-11-22, 20:32   Link #10
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I think lesbian anime are more lacking though. Because it seems that the majority of female anime fandom LOVE boyxboy stuff.. I don't think I'll ever understand why though. ^^; You'll find plenty of boyxboy anime. Most have already been named.

Too bad I can't find much girlxgirl. ;_; Ah well.
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Old 2003-11-22, 20:59   Link #11
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Too bad I can't find much girlxgirl. ;_; Ah well.
I totally agree w/ u Koshiba and I share your opinion. A girl to girl action would be awesome.
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Old 2003-11-22, 20:59   Link #12
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there are quite a few yaoi (gay/male x male) animes out there but i dont remember any lesbian ones apart from neptune and uranus in Sailor moon. You get ALOT more gay/lesbian themes in mangas, and when i say alot i mean alot

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Too bad I can't find much girlxgirl. ;_; Ah well
hehehe lucky for me male x male is easy to find^_^
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Old 2003-11-23, 00:27   Link #13
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Revolutionary Girl Utena
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Old 2003-11-23, 03:38   Link #14
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there are plenty OVA series out there that feature male/male relations, like there is Zetsu Ai, Kizuna, Level C, Boku No Sexual Harrassment and really the list goes on. If you mean mainstream then most of us are familiar with Gravitation and Yami No Matsuei whos main characters are gay males.

So really, I dont think Japan has such a shortage of these types of content.
For Yami no Matsuei, the main villian is definitely gay. While the series has gay overtones throughout, they never explicitly say the main himself is gay, and further, he seems kinda shocked and grossed out by the overtures of the main villian. So I would say he's probably straight. Or at least a repressed closet case =D
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Old 2003-11-23, 05:13   Link #15
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For Yami no Matsuei, the main villian is definitely gay. While the series has gay overtones throughout, they never explicitly say the main himself is gay, and further, he seems kinda shocked and grossed out by the overtures of the main villian. So I would say he's probably straight. Or at least a repressed closet case =D

If I was being touched by the villian I'd be grossed out too, he's scary chou-eww-face! In the manga doesnt he fall for the younger guy? I dunno, I am not a fan of the series either......but its pretty gay none the less.

Also, the original Bubblegum Crisis had alot of lesbian undertones as well as a bed scene in OVA 5 that shows two sister-vampire-robot chicks gettin' ready for some sweet vampire-robot girl lovin'!! But other than that there is a whole lot more gayness floatin' around in anime than there is with the lezziez.

Utena is prolly the best example, and an EXCELLENT anime!!
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Old 2003-11-23, 06:06   Link #16
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And (sniffle sniffle) possibly Peacemaker Kurogane, though I hope I'm wrong
In reality, homosexuality was rife in the shinsengumi. So, it's not out of the question to portray it in the show. If you get a chance, see the film "gohatto" or "taboo" by Nagisa Oshima. It deals directly with the issue of homosexuality in the samurai brotherhood (the film is based in the shinsengumi).
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Old 2003-11-23, 15:53   Link #17
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In Yami no Matsuei who wouldn't be scared of the main villain I mean he is a (sits on her spoiler box)

But I did pick this name before watching Yami no Matsuei (sighssssss)

And the main char does fall for the younger dude and though less obviously vice versa.
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Old 2004-01-07, 20:37   Link #18
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Resurrecting this thread due to the (I guess) imminent release of Maria-sama ga Miteru.

Catholic lesbian schoolgirls. No way in hell I'll be able to stay away from this one...
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Old 2004-01-07, 20:44   Link #19
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you need a healthy dose of airmaster. Although there isn't any sex or stuff like that there have been lots of kissing between male/male and female/female characters. They never really mention it but it's there for you to see
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Old 2004-01-07, 22:27   Link #20
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I think they need to release more shonenai.

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