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Old 2011-01-23, 02:12   Link #2041
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Hope we here more on this, unlike the manga which disappeared into nothing.
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Old 2011-01-23, 05:16   Link #2042
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The manga hasn't dissapeared, it is still ongoing. Ne chapter should be out in stores this week.
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Old 2011-01-23, 17:14   Link #2043
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The manga hasn't dissapeared, it is still ongoing. Ne chapter should be out in stores this week.
just saying, we haven't heard anything since what, November?
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Old 2011-01-24, 01:50   Link #2044
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Yeah, that's because there was a holiday inbetween. I don't know what magazine Renya is published in, but it is published monthly and would therefore be released at the end of each month. Hence there were no chapter in December.
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Old 2011-01-24, 19:48   Link #2045
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I'm not entirely sure about that...without really going into the specifics here, it seems the delay has more to do with the English translators and less with how or when the manga is being published in Japan.

That said, I'm not too impressed by Renya so far, which means it's not too bad for me to let things move along for a while before actually coming back to see what happened in the meanwhile. In other words, I'm not going to be in a hurry to read the next chapters until something truly interesting and relevant enough occurs further down the line.

As for Code Geass Gaiden...what I like about the interview Defade translated and posted above is the indication that the staff is seemingly trying to make Akito different enough from both Suzaku and Lelouch, in spite of his superficial similarities. I don't mind that his (current) character design remains rather bland if the underlying personality, ideas and behavior more than make up for it.

Another interesting bit is the implied suggestion that Geass will not be at the center of this story, at least strictly speaking...in other words, with some luck we'll see someone use that power and that will have a visible effect on the lives and actions of Akito and Layla, but it won't necessarily make up the central core of the plot. Personally, after R2 I'd rather see Geass used conservatively.

And while I'm trying to be optimistic, hopefully the reference to a "gunzougeki" means that we'll get a nice variety of perspectives as an organic part of the story, instead of simply having a couple of decent characters here and there who don't really play much of an active role in the overall narrative (again, R2 was guilty of this as well).
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Old 2011-01-25, 01:29   Link #2046
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Look at it this way; I think the EU of Code Geass would have based its political system around what existed in Napoleonic times... And that's hardly perfect.
Yep, with Women getting the short end of the political stick, aka despite being the forefront of human rights, women are told to stay at home and not be meaningful to society in general. Since American style republicism didn't exist and thus women's sufferage didn't really happen.

Wait, I don't think Sunrise would do the research and instead make another "Empire good, Democracy bad" cliche that runs with Gundam (check Rooting for the Empire involving Zeon's praise compared to Federation.)
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Old 2011-01-25, 20:16   Link #2047
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That said, I'm not too impressed by Renya so far, which means it's not too bad for me to let things move along for a while before actually coming back to see what happened in the meanwhile. In other words, I'm not going to be in a hurry to read the next chapters until something truly interesting and relevant enough occurs further down the line.
Same here. I really want to like the Renya manga but so far it was underwhelming. It's still too early to pass verdict on it, but it didn't immediately grab me like CG:HnL did. Then again, episode one back then was crammed to the brim with a lot of things, while the manga so far is trying to go rather slowly. In five chapters or so we should have a much better idea about where it's going.
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Old 2011-01-31, 23:44   Link #2048
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Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but here's a link to the official website for Akito of the Ruined Country/Land.

http://www.geass.jp/akito/index.html

Not much there except for what most of us already know.
The only thing new is that this is going to be a series like R2, the title is only Tentative (meaning it could change), and it's an expansion of the Code Geass world NOT a sequel.

That's all I got for now.
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Old 2011-01-31, 23:53   Link #2049
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The only thing new is that this is going to be a series like R2,
I certainly hope they don't mean that it's going to suck heinously and be chock full of shitty writing.
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Old 2011-02-01, 00:59   Link #2050
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That's slightly funny, leaving any discussion of the actual details aside, but no...I believe he simply meant to say it's going to be a TV series...which, to be quite honest, still doesn't seem to be explicitly clear from anything on that website (as far as two different online translators can tell me) so I wonder where that particular conclusion came from. Just curious.

Granted, as long as we're speculating....if they've been taking so long to even announce a release date, it's likely that it will end up being a full series and not an OAV. You'd think something short like that would have been easier to sort out, no?

Other than that...yes, the two remaining statements have been known for some time (I believe someone had already translated Taniguchi's description of their decision to make an "expansion" instead of a "sequel"). The title is tentative but, considering they've already revelead the main character's name and design, I doubt it'll change radically (ie: I imagine it will remain "Akito of..." in spite of whatever term may or may not end up replacing "Ruined Land" later on).
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Old 2011-02-02, 01:28   Link #2051
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This is what I got from my translator:
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Director, writer and producer of two people - only four people, [Rebellion] began.
Money, even TV networks, publishers can also well-known original, had to start from nowhere.

It will be broadcast as a television series, [R2] for further sequel was raised from the frame to frame the evening at midnight, it was thanks to the support of many fans.
Please let me say thanks and thanks again. Really, thank you.

After the last round, I had wanted from the sequel to many people.
To meet these voices What should I do?
We gather again and discuss a simple "continue" instead of "extension" to be selected.

We, as a pioneering figure in the coach to realize that Akane Geass, and I'm very happy.
The future will probably be announced "expansion", including, please stay tuned everyone.

It's pretty hard to make sense of this, but the words sequel, "continue" instead of "extension" caught my eye.
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Old 2011-02-02, 11:10   Link #2052
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It's pretty hard to make sense of this, but the words sequel, "continue" instead of "extension" caught my eye.
It actually means the complete opposite of that though. Which makes sense, since Code Geass Gaiden is not a sequel.

See, the point is online translators should only be used as a rough guide, not as the literal equivalent of what's actually being said.

I'll just go ahead and re-post what Eternal Dreamer translated before, several months ago, from pretty much the same exact text found earlier in this topic:

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Taniguchi Gorou—Original Work

After the work for R2 had ended, many people, including many fans, wished for a continuation. “How should we answer all these voices?” After I discussed it with Okouchi-san and all the rest of the staff, we decided to not simply “continue” it, but instead to “expand” it. I’m glad that Director Akane’s new Geass will be implemented as the start of this new project this time. For now on, please anticipate it, as well as the rest of the “expansion” that has been announced.
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Old 2011-02-02, 14:45   Link #2053
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I'm not entirely sure about that...without really going into the specifics here, it seems the delay has more to do with the English translators and less with how or when the manga is being published in Japan.
You were right. Chapters 7 and 8 are out in Japan ^^
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Old 2011-02-02, 22:57   Link #2054
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It actually means the complete opposite of that though. Which makes sense, since Code Geass Gaiden is not a sequel.

See, the point is online translators should only be used as a rough guide, not as the literal equivalent of what's actually being said.

I'll just go ahead and re-post what Eternal Dreamer translated before, several months ago, from pretty much the same exact text found earlier in this topic:
So if I read this right, they may eventually do a sequel to the original story line or maybe a re-do of R2? Just curious because from the sound of it, it sounds like Code Geass is going to turn out like Gundam.
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Old 2011-02-03, 00:51   Link #2055
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So if I read this right, they may eventually do a sequel to the original story line or maybe a re-do of R2? Just curious because from the sound of it, it sounds like Code Geass is going to turn out like Gundam.
None of that is technically impossible, but I don't think they're immediately suggesting such a thing either.

As far as we can tell right now, the only authorized "expansion" at this time would be Gaiden (and the Renya manga).

Anything else is all up to speculation and, I'd add, incredibly premature. Code Geass is still a relatively new property.

You'd need to have not just one but several successful shows in a row in order to justify making more on a regular basis.

Gundam is a special case, since it's pretty much the company's flagship title and will survive as long as Sunrise / Bandai does.
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Old 2011-02-04, 04:24   Link #2056
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Yeah. It took years for MS Gundam to get a full-fledged sequel.
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Old 2011-02-05, 14:50   Link #2057
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From the looks of things, it seems that my hunch was correct that the new CG series would be a regular series. Although, I felt that the series would retain the late night format that the first season of Lelouch of the Rebellion had. While this is only speculation, I believe that we might be witnessing the recreation of the original storyline version of Code Geass R2 that was scrapped. The version in which Lelouch won the conflict against Suzaku at the end of Stage 25.
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Old 2011-02-07, 16:40   Link #2058
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I believe that we might be witnessing the recreation of the original storyline version of Code Geass R2 that was scrapped. The version in which Lelouch won the conflict against Suzaku at the end of Stage 25.
I'm sick of hearing this. Not once has ANYONE official ever suggested such a thing was possible. Furthermore, there is no way it's ever going to happen, because they aren't going to just go "eh, let's remake our second season, admitting we don't like the one we made". And finally, the ending is going to turn out the same anyway. Why even bother putting all the money into remaking your second season if it's going to come to the same conclusion anyway?

It's not going to happen, R2 is what they made and they like R2. Yes, it's different from their original plans for the season season, but it's still the second season they themselves made and they are proud of their work.

Going back and trying to pull off a half-assed "redo" (and, again, despite differences in execution, the overall plot of R2 is still the same as their original plans) of what was overall a very popular and well received show as opposed to making a new show with a new plot and characters would be franchise suicide. The common audience and fans wouldn't care.

New material is a better idea, and that is what we are getting. R2 happened, and it's over. Fans need to learn to either deal with it and enjoy this franchise/series for what it is, or stop paying attention.
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I'm sick of hearing this. Not once has ANYONE official ever suggested such a thing was possible. Furthermore, there is no way it's ever going to happen, because they aren't going to just go "eh, let's remake our second season, admitting we don't like the one we made". And finally, the ending is going to turn out the same anyway. Why even bother putting all the money into remaking your second season if it's going to come to the same conclusion anyway?

It's not going to happen, R2 is what they made and they like R2. Yes, it's different from their original plans for the season season, but it's still the second season they themselves made and they are proud of their work.

Going back and trying to pull off a half-assed "redo" (and, again, despite differences in execution, the overall plot of R2 is still the same as their original plans) of what was overall a very popular and well received show as opposed to making a new show with a new plot and characters would be franchise suicide. The common audience and fans wouldn't care.

New material is a better idea, and that is what we are getting. R2 happened, and it's over. Fans need to learn to either deal with it and enjoy this franchise/series for what it is, or stop paying attention.
That was my opinion. And looking at Code Geass R2, overall, it was a repeat of ideas used in Season One besides the ending. And Code Geass R2 originally took place in 2017 rather than 2018. And Taniguchi or Okoushi are not involved in the new project. The new series is an expansion of the first year in a different nation: The EU. And the original late night format will return. That is the format that I care about because it was about the dialog of the story rather than the excessive use of fan service.

Also, no one on the production staff is going to say that Code Geass R2 is going to be remade without the risk of losing their job. In addition, I did mentioned that it's not likely that Code Geass R2 will be recreated because it was all about getting to the end of the story as quickly as possible. A very good example are the following:

1. The quick elimination of the Geass Cult, along with the deaths of V.V. and his followers.
2. The destruction of the Britannian Capitol Building in Japan.
3. The destruction of Pendragon in the Britannia.
4. The quick elimination of most of the senior members of the Knight of the Rounds and The Glaston Knights.
5. The deaths of the Britannian Nobility, as well as the special interest groups that were looking to take over the thrown.

Everything in Season Two looked so easy to execute from Lelouch's perspective. Whether he had the geass or not. The five points I have mentioned were extinguished in order to finish the story as quickly as possible. In retrospect, I wished that the production staff had not made the drastic changes to Code Geass R2 for a different audience. I wished that they had kept the original late night format instead of doing a one year reset to the story that overlapped most of the scenes of Season One. And most of the Picture Drama of the R2 DVD's provided very little information that was essential to the story, in contrast to some of the Picture Dramas of Season One. While I stand by my opinion that while a remake is possible, I do admit that it's not likely to happen because Season Two was simply about the end of the story with Lelouch's sacrifice for a better world. That was the power of the Geass: To grant the wish of the user's desire. I certainly hope that the new show provides a better conclusion of events that makes the end of the story compelling to appreciate.

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Old 2011-02-12, 15:42   Link #2060
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That was my opinion. And looking at Code Geass R2, overall, it was a repeat of ideas used in Season One besides the ending. And Code Geass R2 originally took place in 2017 rather than 2018. And Taniguchi or Okoushi are not involved in the new project. The new series is an expansion of the first year in a different nation: The EU. And the original late night format will return. That is the format that I care about because it was about the dialog of the story rather than the excessive use of fan service.

Also, no one on the production staff is going to say that Code Geass R2 is going to be remade without the risk of losing their job. In addition, I did mentioned that it's not likely that Code Geass R2 will be recreated because it was all about getting to the end of the story as quickly as possible. A very good example are the following:

1. The quick elimination of the Geass Cult, along with the deaths of V.V. and his followers.
2. The destruction of the Britannian Capitol Building in Japan.
3. The destruction of Pendragon in the Britannia.
4. The quick elimination of most of the senior members of the Knight of the Rounds and The Glaston Knights.
5. The deaths of the Britannian Nobility, as well as the special interest groups that were looking to take over the thrown.

Everything in Season Two looked so easy to execute from Lelouch's perspective. Whether he had the geass or not. The five points I have mentioned were extinguished in order to finish the story as quickly as possible. In retrospect, I wished that the production staff had not made the drastic changes to Code Geass R2 for a different audience. I wished that they had kept the original late night format instead of doing a one year reset to the story that overlapped most of the scenes of Season One. And most of the Picture Drama of the R2 DVD's provided very little information that was essential to the story, in contrast to some of the Picture Dramas of Season One. While I stand by my opinion that while a remake is possible, I do admit that it's not likely to happen because Season Two was simply about the end of the story with Lelouch's sacrifice for a better world. That was the power of the Geass: To grant the wish of the user's desire. I certainly hope that the new show provides a better conclusion of events that makes the end of the story compelling to appreciate.
It's funny you mention the latter bolded point in light of the contrivances that occurred due to all the rushing, as it ended up being more like him becoming driven to suicide. He didn't HAVE to sacrifice himself, and he admitted that there were other methods.

Anyways, this is beside the point. The most they can do is tie up any loose ends in future installments.
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