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Old 2010-05-25, 00:26   Link #1581
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So will we be expecting an anime adaption of this story? Why manga first this time though? Why not just go straight into the anime?
I can think of a number of possible reasons.

a)Taniguchi, the director of the anime who is also writing the plot for this manga, has said before that he likes "challenges" and working on his first manga project sounds like a good one. Or he might just want to take a break from directing stuff.

b)The manga format allows the creators to take more risks and be a little more flexible without being restricted by the demands and pressures of a weekly anime production. Unless it is prematurely cancelled, there should be no such thing as the rush or the pacing problems we saw in R2 and the story should move along at a better pace. It's also easier to gradually introduce weird or crazy ideas and see whether they work or not, making changes to them if necessary.

c)Perhaps the plan is to adapt this manga into an animated format sooner or later, depending on how successful it is.

d)All of the above?
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Old 2010-05-25, 02:27   Link #1582
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I can think of a number of possible reasons.

a)Taniguchi, the director of the anime who is also writing the plot for this manga, has said before that he likes "challenges" and working on his first manga project sounds like a good one. Or he might just want to take a break from directing stuff.

b)The manga format allows the creators to take more risks and be a little more flexible without being restricted by the demands and pressures of a weekly anime production. Unless it is prematurely cancelled, there should be no such thing as the rush or the pacing problems we saw in R2 and the story should move along at a better pace. It's also easier to gradually introduce weird or crazy ideas and see whether they work or not, making changes to them if necessary.

c)Perhaps the plan is to adapt this manga into an animated format sooner or later, depending on how successful it is.

d)All of the above?
This was a suggestion that I placed in my letter to Tanigushi, last year. I mentioned that the best way to tell his story is to do it in a manga format. Thus, the unexpected success of Code Geass would provide him with an option to do a manga in his own words, without the stress and restrictions of doing an anime. The success of the manga would provide a better outline of doing an anime than simply brainstorming for a weekly anime series.

Although, I would have loved to see a remake of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion written by Okouchi. His words would be much better than the previous authors who wrote the manga adaptations, which suck. And this doesn't include The Nightmare of Nunnally.

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Old 2010-05-25, 08:39   Link #1583
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So will we be expecting an anime adaption of this story? Why manga first this time though? Why not just go straight into the anime?

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btw arbitres, who is that character in your avatar? Looks familiar :X
Certainly hope they give us an anime adaption. That would mean awesome gifs and signatures for that black-haired guy. Le-like!

Offtopic: It's Regret(ta) from Tales of The Abyss anime adaption.

Now back onto this...

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c)Perhaps the plan is to adapt this manga into an animated format sooner or later, depending on how successful it is.
I hope this is what they are doing, testing the waters is the best strategy, and it's far too early for us to know whether or not Black Jet Renya is/will be successful.
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Old 2010-05-25, 11:38   Link #1584
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Once again, thanks for all the translations. Even if they're not perfect, it's still much better than nothing. I'm sure the entire manga will be translated sooner or later.

I think that character might be Gino's ancestor, if they're even related at all...and, just as well, maybe the long-haired guy isn't really Lelouch but his great grandfather or something, who must have come up with a complicated plan of some sort involving Geass and whatever crazy concepts are going to be used in the story (insert stuff like time travel, reincarnation, etc. etc.).

This is all pure speculation, of course, but now that this manga has been formally introduced as a "prologue" and so forth, it's what I've deduced so far.



True, but keep in mind that Geass users should be able to reach that "fully developed" Geass...and, what's more, if Emperor Lelouch gained the Code at the end of R2 (as per the popular fan theory) he would have immediately lost his Geass in exchange for immortality. This guy...still has Geass.
If the mysterious Lelouch look a like is actually Lelouch after having gained the Code, then there's a very logical reason for him still having Geass. In the cases of people getting the Code that we've seen (C.C. and Charles) they received the Code from the person they got the Geass from, thus the Code replaced the Geass. In Lelouch's case, he would have taken the Code from Charles, not C.C., so the Code would not have replaced the Geass. That would leave him with both the Code and Geass, or "Code Geass."
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Old 2010-05-25, 12:37   Link #1585
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If the mysterious Lelouch look a like is actually Lelouch after having gained the Code, then there's a very logical reason for him still having Geass. In the cases of people getting the Code that we've seen (C.C. and Charles) they received the Code from the person they got the Geass from, thus the Code replaced the Geass. In Lelouch's case, he would have taken the Code from Charles, not C.C., so the Code would not have replaced the Geass. That would leave him with both the Code and Geass, or "Code Geass."
Or, perhaps, this might be the start of the original plans that Tanigushi had for Code Geass. It was said that the initial plan for the series was to have an idealistic soldier who was butting heads with his superiors. But, that idea was rejected. Thus, Tanigushi maybe going back to the series roots. It appears that nobody wants to acknowledge Code Geass R2. Not only was the second season rushed, but a lot of important details was cut out of the storyline just to get to the ending faster.
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Old 2010-05-25, 12:52   Link #1586
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Oh come now. R2 was awesome in some aspects. i.e: Kallen and Lelouch kiss, Bunny Kallen... Luciano butthurt being fried by SEITEN. Beats most series with those three.


I say we halt the possible speculation until we get more then one volume to go on. Sounds logical and the speculator will look less stupid if they wait just a bit longer. Who says that is actually Lelouch, and simply not his spirit of some sort? We don't know enough to make anything plausible.

What we do know is the period of time and what they are planning on doing with manga-verse and anime-verse. (Lost Colors is learned towards anime-verse for several reasons, not naming due to offtopic.)

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important details was cut out of the storyline just to get to the ending faster.
Like Suzaku's connection to The Thought Elevator / Geass in general.
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Old 2010-05-25, 13:37   Link #1587
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Oh come now. R2 was awesome in some aspects. i.e: Kallen and Lelouch kiss, Bunny Kallen... Luciano butthurt being fried by SEITEN. Beats most series with those three.


I say we halt the possible speculation until we get more then one volume to go on. Sounds logical and the speculator will look less stupid if they wait just a bit longer. Who says that is actually Lelouch, and simply not his spirit of some sort? We don't know enough to make anything plausible.

What we do know is the period of time and what they are planning on doing with manga-verse and anime-verse. (Lost Colors is learned towards anime-verse for several reasons, not naming due to offtopic.)



Like Suzaku's connection to The Thought Elevator / Geass in general.
The kiss between Kallen x Lelouch was expected. But, it was originally planned for Season One. The history of Geass and Suzaku's connection to it was just one example of what was dropped from the Second Season. We still don't know why the Ashfords lost their Nobility following Marianne's death. And the part where Llyod only wanted to marry Milly in order to get access to the Ashford Technical Research information of their KMF development data was dropped from the story as well because it was never mentioned again in Season Two. Those are just a few examples that was omited from Season Two, in my opinion.
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Old 2010-05-25, 14:24   Link #1588
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In Lelouch's case, he would have taken the Code from Charles, not C.C., so the Code would not have replaced the Geass.
Honestly, I think your hypothesis is a bit of a stretch since the show gave us absolutely no indication of why that would make any difference, but I admit there's really no way to prove or disprove it at the moment. Until then, the subject remains open to speculation and it's something that may be addressed by the new manga in time.
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Old 2010-05-25, 21:39   Link #1589
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holy shit gino made the cut?? Now I'm thinking we are just going to see everyones edo clone overtime...
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Old 2010-05-25, 23:53   Link #1590
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Okay, if anyone brings up anymore of any of the 'code' bullshit or I'll send a wave of hatred through your internet connection so strong it will vaporize your soul instantaneously.

(Oh, you doubt?)

If anything I'm betting the Lelouch look-alike is an ancestor. (Or hell, an ancestor of Xing-ke.) Why were we even speculating that the look-alike was Lelouch in the first place? Oh yeah, because of that one promo pic that named Lelouch next to Renya: http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8...codegeassg.jpg

And that guy is most certainly not the same as this guy: http://www.imagebam.com/image/9680e881794048

Unless Lelouch ditched the cape for a red one and grew his hair out. In which case, then clearly:



You laugh, but if it's Lelouch that seems to be exactly what they're implying.

Anyway "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate" -that text appears more than once, but I forget when the second time was. I love it when a series gives subtle homages to classic literature. And it's a coy way of seeing deeper into the plot.

On a side note, it's not perfect but it looks like the manga ka for Renya has been studying up on Sunrize's style a bit. Thank God.

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Old 2010-05-26, 18:47   Link #1591
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If you want to get off the rather beaten path of the code theory, here's something I've been thinking about lately:

If the world of C is generally the collective mind of mankind and each and every person on earth is actually a mask directly linked to that entity, than the fact that Lelouch existed in 2018 (or whenever) means that the potential for Lelouch existed throughout time and might be able to manifest itself regardless of the fate of it predecessors.

Take it a step further and Lelouch could just be a tool of the collective for whenever the world is going out of control (Oh, look, another madman wants to blow up the planet...fetch me the #7 spanner, please. Yeah, the one with the messiah complex and the suicidal tendencies.)

Very unlikely to be anything close to cannon but it's still an entertaining trail of thought.
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Old 2010-05-26, 18:53   Link #1592
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If you want to get off the rather beaten path of the code theory, here's something I've been thinking about lately:

If the world of C is generally the collective mind of mankind and each and every person on earth is actually a mask directly linked to that entity, than the fact that Lelouch existed in 2018 (or whenever) means that the potential for Lelouch existed throughout time and might be able to manifest itself regardless of the fate of it predecessors.

Take it a step further and Lelouch could just be a tool of the collective for whenever the world is going out of control (Oh, look, another madman wants to blow up the planet...fetch me the #7 spanner, please. Yeah, the one with the messiah complex and the suicidal tendencies.)

Very unlikely to be anything close to cannon but it's still an entertaining trail of thought.
That's a very interesting theory, but I do agree with you in that it deviates too much from the already presented logic to be canon. Lelouch getting the Code from the Emperor still seems like the most logical explanation to me. But your theory is quite intriguing.
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Old 2010-05-26, 19:18   Link #1593
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That's a very interesting theory, but I do agree with you in that it deviates too much from the already presented logic to be canon. Lelouch getting the Code from the Emperor still seems like the most logical explanation to me. But your theory is quite intriguing.
as opposed to him just being dead ?

and even if he DID somehow get a code, doesn't explain how he travels back in time
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My theory is that he's just a guy that looks and acts a lot like Lelouch, and just happens to have the same geass as him.
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Old 2010-05-26, 19:30   Link #1595
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Unless I see him making an organization called The Black Knights and 'performing miracles' will I even consider it being Rebellion Lelouch.

Le-like is simply identifiable to Rebellion Lelouch, nothing more then we can see besides that.

I'll wait for concrete evidence, along with good scans and translations of the evidence so we can finally have something to go on.

So far, we have near nothing to go on besides character recycling. (I use character recycling in a very lenient manner, mind you.) So I wouldn't fret or theorize anything quite yet.
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That thing I mentioned about personally murdering anyone who mentioned the 'code' trollshit again?

I meant it.

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Lelouch getting the Code from the Emperor still seems like the most logical explanation to me.
What you really meant to say was that it would seem likely if only it weren't for the fact that all the 'code' logic is just troll crap.
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Old 2010-05-26, 23:22   Link #1597
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Those are some serious threats...telling people you're going to murder them for their opinions...Might wanna ease off a little bit no?
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She, actually. And if she could do that, she'd be rich because people would pay her to kill a lot of people.
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That's a very interesting theory, but I do agree with you in that it deviates too much from the already presented logic to be canon. Lelouch getting the Code from the Emperor still seems like the most logical explanation to me. But your theory is quite intriguing.
You've gone and done it now!
You've got ZB all "RrrrrrrrrrrrrreowW! FffffffffffffffffffT!"



As evidenced by her reaction to your suggestion.

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That thing I mentioned about personally murdering anyone who mentioned the 'code' trollshit again?

I meant it.



What you really meant to say was that it would seem likely if only it weren't for the fact that all the 'code' logic is just troll crap.
I pity Sunrise if they ever do actually try to rewrite the events of R2 and have Charles force his code on Lelouch...there will be hell to pay!!

In regards to the new manga.
It looks very interesting, and if I find the time I'll check it out for a read.
Methinks that the Lelouch-alike is probably an ancestor of Lelouch just like the Gino-alike/clone most certainly is.
Unless there's some kind of "Otogi Zoshi" thingy going on in CG that we don't yet know about?
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