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Old 2010-05-27, 12:52   Link #1621
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I am going to wait until there are some translations to formulate any sort of theory, and tbqh I am more interested in the anime than the manga since I'm not really into manga. That said, I am keeping an open mind because in a sci fi world with superhuman powers, mechas, immortal beings and just plain weird shit anything is possible. Besides, time travel has a basis in real physics, it wouldn't be out of this world OMG unbelievable if Lelouch survived via Charles' code (this is most plausible one isn't it?) and then traveled in time. But the question here is why and what is the point? Right now I'm going with look-alikes put in to draw fans of the anime to the manga. If this is the case then Gino must have been huge with the fans, no?

And guys please, have a little more respect for other people and their opinions. None of you work for Sunrise nor do you have any say on Geass related materiel. No opinion is more valid than another and raging over the internet is not going to make the other person view things your way, in fact they're going to be even less inclined to listen to you.
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Old 2010-05-27, 15:18   Link #1622
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I don't think the 'Lelouch got a Code' theory is that far-fetched. Why not? Hardly makes any difference either way. Time-travel, on the other hand, wtf? Where did that even come from?
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Old 2010-05-27, 17:30   Link #1623
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(Obviously.) Nope, none other. And my bet is on that he's an ancestor if anything, although the heavy allusions to Dante's works involving the afterlife in both LotR and Renya thus far do have me a bit curious.

There was one teaser a while back that placed Lelouch (the literal Lelouch) right next to Renya and implied that he had something to do with Renya's time period, but that's really vague.
That teaser opens up the door to speculation, and everything is fair game. The look-alike could be just that a look-alike completely unrelated to Lelouch, and as I mentioned earlier that is exactly what I think of this character. However, it doesn't mean that we are right because we don't know yet. Shinobi's theory could be right (at least I think that's who brought up that which causes this forum to get their panties in a bunch)
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Old 2010-05-27, 17:50   Link #1624
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Shinobi's theory could be right (at least I think that's who brought up that which causes this forum to get their panties in a bunch)
The Code stuff? We just established that time travel/ reincarnation and Geass Witchery are not even mildly related and wouldn't have anything to do with Lelouch-look-alike's appearance even if it was a valid theory.

Didn't we just establish that?

Like three times?

However I can certainly entertain the notion that perhaps some supernatural freakout occurred after Lelouch died wherein he was sent back in time in order to pay retribution...or whatever. Or whoever it was that brought up the idea that maybe Lelouch is just 'that one guy' the Collective Consciousness stream always picks to do the dirty jobs throughout history. xD I rather like that theory.
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Old 2010-05-27, 17:53   Link #1625
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I don't think its "Lelouch" from Lelouch of the Rebellion in my opinion. Didn't this "Lelouch" in the manga have geass in his eyes. I don't recall someone having geass and an code in the series. We don't even know if its possible. Just like that Gino look-a-like. Its not Gino from the anime obviously(I don't recall Gino being very popular at least going by those character polls in those japanese anime magazines). I wouldn't be surprised if we see other look-a-like characters in the manga like Rolo for example.

I'm honestly more interested in the new anime than the manga.
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Old 2010-05-27, 21:11   Link #1626
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I think arguing all this code stuff like this is really pointless, we have such little information that no one can actually say how the future will go regardless of anything that happened in the past. How much do we really know about the code? Just little tidbits of information we've seen from the show.

For all we know there's multiple kinds of codes, or effects and side effects that can produce things like time travel and maybe even stranger stuff. We still don't know the specifics of how a code is transfered, or how it was made in the first place, or even how many there are in existence. There is a whole world of possibilities out there. We have no evidence one way or another.

My point is that it does not matter. Anything is possible, but it doesn't mean everything is true. Instead of flaming each other how about we keep this thread to informative posts and valid questions about the new code geass projects? Since once the speculation starts we can't go five minutes without a flame post.
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Old 2010-05-27, 22:35   Link #1627
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My point exactly.
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Old 2010-05-27, 23:48   Link #1628
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maybe Lelouch is just 'that one guy' the Collective Consciousness stream always picks to do the dirty jobs throughout history
That certainly tickled me. Very good humor.

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Old 2010-05-28, 21:53   Link #1629
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so instead of making an intelligent post you go and flame if you don't like what the other person is saying just ignore it and move on don't create pointless posts just to flame another user/person/whatever etc......


I wouldn't mind seeing a Rolo look-a-like and instead of that clingy personality everyone seems to hate maybe this one can be more evil/sinister like
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Old 2010-05-29, 03:45   Link #1630
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Dont mind me.... just putting out the flames...

Adding this below to PG1 soon tell me if i missed anything or what should be added. I've been lazy lately...









Photos of manga pages can be found here: 1 2 3 4 5.

Character list.TRANSLATION BELOW
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Old 2010-05-29, 05:40   Link #1631
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Do we have any translation for the page that has the chained girl and Lelouch look-alike in front of the gate to hell?
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Old 2010-05-29, 07:04   Link #1632
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Going through the last few pages of this, Ive removed most of the baiting posts. Remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion on what will or will not happen however that does not mean everyone has to agree with you. Any further flaming will result in infractions. Remember this is only an anime.
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Old 2010-05-29, 07:23   Link #1633
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Which trailer? Can I see it?
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Old 2010-05-29, 10:37   Link #1634
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Ahh, thank you very much Moderator White Manju Bun.

@Zetsubou Bunny: I'd be more then happy to translate it I knew how to translate japanese. Though I thought Eternal Dreamer already did that? I guess not. We probably have to wait since we're so helpless without him Well... I am anyways.
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Old 2010-05-29, 13:09   Link #1635
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Can we just stop this endless flood untill next Newtype or untill manga scanlation is out? There is nothing to discuss anyway
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Old 2010-05-29, 14:36   Link #1636
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Thanks for the manga scans Mr true elements

Lelouches cape looks good in the cover and that gino look alike also interests me. C.C don't look all that bad either in that sexy leather and also renyas robotic arm is also well cool.

So it looks like that lelouch look aLIKE is the bad guy this time or so it appears. Perhaps he is just doing those evil deeds so he can direct everyones hate on him and then when he dies everyone will stand united haha zero requiem all over again. I wonder if this lelouch look alike is perhaps lelouches ancestor since i believe this manga is set way before code geass the anime. Interesting that his cape has the black knight symbol, perhaps lelouch did some digging into the past of his ancestors to search for that symbol for his black knights.

Any info on what renyas geass power is? if he has any?
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Old 2010-05-29, 15:00   Link #1637
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*Sigh* I was so proud of you too Zetsubou... Oh well. I just wish people could respect the Moderators a little more. They have a hard time running this entire place as is.

@Lockon: I don't think Renya has a geass - or if he did, it would come later. They probably would want to differentiate from how Renya gets his geass - if the scenario is too familiar like Lelouch's then fans may lose interest. Sunrise probably doesn't want that.

As for Lelouch-look-alike... Yes his cape is awesome. I hope they don't pull off a ZR in this... That would seriously ruin it for me. I actually thought "Mmm.. Maybe he is wanting to rid the world of Sakuradite?" but that is groundless. That is speculative and thus pointless until we have more to go on.

Like Konart said. We can't do anything until the next batch of info/scans arrive. Feel free to keep this up, I'll be staying away from here. :|
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Old 2010-05-29, 15:08   Link #1638
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I hope he gets a cool geass power, maybe something to go with his fighting style. Rolos geass was also great when it came to combat since he was able to close the distant on his enemies as well as dodge attacks using it. Another cool geass power was the knight of ones which enabled him to anticipate his opponents moves. A geass power like one of those would be ideal for renya i feel.

But him having no geass power is fine with me too, i like the idea of only the bad guy having the geass power for some reason.
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Old 2010-05-29, 18:59   Link #1639
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@Zetsubou Bunny: I'd be more then happy to translate it I knew how to translate japanese. Though I thought Eternal Dreamer already did that? I guess not. We probably have to wait since we're so helpless without him Well... I am anyways.
Ah, you're making me blush.

I already posted the translation for that page with Lelouch and the chained girl...Here it is again in case any of you couldn't find it:

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人は己が何者なのかを知りたがる
People want to understand what kind of person they are.

知るためには絶対的なる基準が必要だ
To know this, standards that are absolute are necessary.

基準なき判断は存在しない なら その基準は誰が作るのか
A judgement without standards does not exist. If that is the case, who decides these standards?

何によって それらは必要とされるのか
What are they necessary for?
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Old 2010-05-29, 19:58   Link #1640
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Ah-Ha. Thought so. Thank you Eternal Dreamer. Though I'm somehow spiteful for myself; I completely forgot you did that. Gomen.
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