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Old 2010-01-17, 14:13   Link #61
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because Kratos is a all around bad ass.

Bayonetta... needed skill? Are you Shittin me? I just went around dodging all the time and attacking when i got bullet time... oh i mean "witch time" and just kept using the punch kick punch combo with katana. to me it didn't take any skill because of the OP dodging.
Are you not listening to what people are telling you? TRY HARD MODE AND INFINITE CLIMAX MODE and let's see how easy you think the game is. I can't say much for Infinite Climax mode just yet but so far hard mode is proving to make Hard mode in DMC seem like a cakewalk and I heard infinite climax mode means NO WITCH TIME AND YOU TAKE TONS MORE DAMAGE WHEN HIT..... Oh and if you want to make it really hard try playing both of those modes as Jeanne where YOU DON'T GAIN WITCH TIME BY DODGING but by using the annoying bat within technique.

And quick time events are awesome they should have more of them in Action adventure games.
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Old 2010-01-17, 14:48   Link #62
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You can switch weapons in Bayonetta as well mid combo even. :O

I agree with the bullshit quick time events though. >_>
but you can't switch from what 10 weapons in mid fight/combo?

and obviously you guys havent tried the hardest mode on DMC4 where the little mobs are harder than bosses.
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Old 2010-01-17, 16:11   Link #63
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but you can't switch from what 10 weapons in mid fight/combo?

and obviously you guys havent tried the hardest mode on DMC4 where the little mobs are harder than bosses.
It's been a while, but wasn't it you could only switch between 2 weapons? Though you could do it for both weapons you got, but the secondary weapon in DMC weren't as important as the main weapon. With Bayonetta you are limited to 2 sets, but with Bayonetta you also have separate button for shooting the guns and both equipped weapons are important. Sure you have a bit more freedom, but it isn't that different. o____O

I'll admit I haven't played DMC4, I switched over to Ninja Gaiden. I though NG was better then DMC3 so there was no reason to look into DMC4. Also hearing 4 sucked compared to 3.
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Old 2010-01-17, 18:00   Link #64
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I think the only reason they think it sucks because of Nero. in DMC4 Dante can switch constantly from all his weapons and styles ( if i remember correctly)
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Old 2010-01-17, 18:39   Link #65
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I think the only reason they think it sucks because of Nero. in DMC4 Dante can switch constantly from all his weapons and styles ( if i remember correctly)
It sucked because you need to play the same game twice in one sitting and there are like only 4 different type of bosses you have to fight 3 times over. Dante is just a lazy copy & paste job over from 3 but without the arsenal.

Bayonetta is what DMC4 should have been.

As fir those who complained about the lead, I ask you, what is your impression of a witch ? Someone who is sugar, spice and everything nice ? Or somebody who is more of a whore.
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Old 2010-01-17, 18:41   Link #66
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Heh, at least the criticism to the game is only limited to plot and characters. Kinda attests to the quality that the game is.
It's a lot better than the typical pretty boy with silver/white hair main character for sure. I mean my gawd have you guys seen FF13 Versus? It's totally Nsync-ish. I would like to see more strong sexy female leads. FF13 and Castlevania order of the ecclesia comes to mind.
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Old 2010-01-17, 19:09   Link #67
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Nero was a reason DMC4 sucked, but he wasn't the only reason. The game wasn't laid out well, told well and over all it felt like a filler episode in a long running series.....a multi-hour filler episode.
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Old 2010-01-17, 21:55   Link #68
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As fir those who complained about the lead, I ask you, what is your impression of a witch ? Someone who is sugar, spice and everything nice ? Or somebody who is more of a whore.
ever see wizard of oz? apparently not :P

if DMC4 wasnt there last of the series i think they would have put more effort into it. i wonna go back in time and do w.e it takes to keep DMC2 from being made the way it was and make sure Nero never exsists and also make sure whats his face is fired/quits
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Old 2010-01-17, 22:55   Link #69
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I dont know if people are just exaggerating about how easy it was or i'm just not that good at action/hack slash games but I found quite a few sections quite difficult. especialy those sections that had you face 4-5 of the later enemies only to be thrown into a boss battle right after.
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Old 2010-01-18, 00:29   Link #70
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So, is it worth it to at least rent this game?
Do you think it's play through-able in a two day rental? Or should I get a 7 day rental?
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Old 2010-01-18, 00:31   Link #71
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ever see wizard of oz? apparently not :P
So we have The White Witch there and I might add, for the past decade, Hermione from Harry Potter

But try going out and ask about witches from the general folks. What you'll get is mostly a harlot of the Devil with magical powers dressed in black.

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So, is it worth it to at least rent this game?
Do you think it's play through-able in a two day rental? Or should I get a 7 day rental?
In a sitting, maybe 8 hours or so. Trying to unlock everything will take days.
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Old 2010-01-18, 00:48   Link #72
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10 hours seems to be a good time limit for a first run, but you'll definitely want to play the game again, depends on how hooked you are...still haven't played it though
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Old 2010-01-18, 02:37   Link #73
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i had my doubts with this game at first with all the hype but it's a good entertaining game and probably the best for this genre.

Controls is smooth, didnt had to wrestle with the camera much and lots of interesting combo moves you can pull off.

Only gripe i had is that one mini game that overstayed it's welcome and quicktime events.
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Old 2010-01-18, 09:20   Link #74
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and Bayonetta didn't repeat bosses? I recall fighting the same damn thing about 5 times each, not as much health as before but still damn annoying.
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Old 2010-01-18, 11:52   Link #75
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I think the only reason they think it sucks because of Nero. in DMC4 Dante can switch constantly from all his weapons and styles ( if i remember correctly)
Which was a problem. They shouldn't assign three weapons to one button. It worked for Vergil in DMC3 since you could switch with both buttons but doing it in DMC4 with one was an unnecessary hassle.

What was needed was the ability to switch what was in the slots whenever you wanted. DMC3 you could only switch weapons at Time Statues and between missions. It was thought Capcom could rectify that in DMC4 but instead they did away with it by making you switch between all three. I learned to work with it but I always would have preferred Two-weapon swap

And nothing in Bayonetta has shown itself to be as broken as Lucifer and Gilgamesh's Real Impact (beating DMD bosses in less than 30 seconds), not even Witch Time since it's not available in the highest difficulty.
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Old 2010-01-18, 12:01   Link #76
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I want to move out of the Netherlands. Bayonetta is selling like shit over here, I need to go to a better country where people have taste. ;_;
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Old 2010-01-18, 12:05   Link #77
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I want to move out of the Netherlands. Bayonetta is selling like shit over here, I need to go to a better country where people have taste. ;_;
at the same time they prob wish u would move because of your bad taste (not sayin that i think you have bad taste)

just a version of "you hate them, Im sure they hate you"
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Old 2010-01-18, 12:48   Link #78
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at the same time they prob wish u would move because of your bad taste (not sayin that i think you have bad taste)

just a version of "you hate them, Im sure they hate you"
Well I was joking.

Overall in europe it isn't doing bad. I just hope platinum get's the needed profit from this game.
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Old 2010-01-18, 15:49   Link #79
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Bayonetta's repeat bosses aren't bosses anymore, they're just cannon fodder until you get to the next boss. While DMC 4 purposely made you go through the same level to the same boss.

And I don't find Bayonetta HARD per say, as the only parts i died too were spontaneous explosians for no reason. Like the first time going through stage 2 even when you defeat the dragon heads in the church building, they throw it off shoot a fireball and then you need to hit Square (or X) to finish the cutscene. That was really fast and unexpected for me and I died. I then laughed and hit continue to literally try again a few seconds later
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Old 2010-01-18, 16:06   Link #80
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These types of games sure are miles away from the norm though -remembers his Eve of Extinction, GAWD!-
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