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Old 2010-10-28, 23:48   Link #1201
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eto...just when do we have to use spoilers until?
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Spoiler for epi 13!!!!!!:
Like serenade_beta, I thought that the state of Natsuno's father was just as a reaction to his family being decimated. I assumed that the kids saw the Dad on the same day Natsuno died, which leaves no time for him to be attacked since he's fine in the morning...unless, of course, Tatsumi did it...

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Spoiler for speculation on the fate of the village:


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Spoiler for ep13:
You mean his wife, right?

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Yeah...even leaving out his thoughts from the manga, they've done a pretty good job at conveying what he intends to do...

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Just realised that they changed some of the dates. In the manga, most of the major events in this episode happen on the 10th (Natsuno's death in the morning, Seishin taking his father to see Tokujiro during the day, Kyouko's death that night). Seems like they've changed it to the 9th - wonder why...

It's also interesting to see what they've cut out or rearranged from the manga. In this episode, they've rearranged the time flow so that it's more chronological, probably so that viewers don't have to keep track of all the changes (the manga just went all over the place...though that did mean that we could see the flow of each individual story better).

And speculation about something in the opening sequence - please don't look if you don't want to speculate!!!
Spoiler for speculation:
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Old 2010-10-29, 00:38   Link #1202
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eto...just when do we have to use spoilers until?
Normally until the sub is out but sometimes itll go a bit later if a lot happened in an epi. We could not use tags now of course.

I do now agree with serenade and you about Natsuno's dad. Unless who ever bit his mom also bit him. I suspect Toru only bit Natsuno. I do wonder what happened to that creepy girl with the puppet....

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The impression I'm getting, however, based on Sunako's conversations with Seishin, is that she's the one who wants to turn this village into an okiagari village.
I think its btwn her and the mom on who's running the show but Im leaning more towards Sunako.

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And speculation about something in the opening sequence - please don't look if you don't want to speculate!!!
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Old 2010-10-29, 02:14   Link #1203
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You mean his wife, right?
Were they already married? I thought they hadn't married yet, or at least, that is what my memories tell me...

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I do wonder what happened to that creepy girl with the puppet....
Got ran over by a truck... I wish.
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Old 2010-10-29, 02:54   Link #1204
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Were they already married? I thought they hadn't married yet, or at least, that is what my memories tell me...
They are married. I'm not sure about the anime, but in ch8 of the manga (~ep 9), she's introduced as his wife.

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Got ran over by a truck... I wish.
LOL...well, they cut it out of episode 12, but if you want to see her again , I think it should be in chapter 14 - Natsuno Yuuki 08.

p.s. They've left quite a lot out of the anime, mostly thoughts but a few not so important scenes as well. Worth checking out if you're confident you can stop before/when you catch up to the anime.
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Old 2010-10-29, 03:21   Link #1205
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I do wonder what happened to that creepy girl with the puppet....
Shouldn't you be wondering about Masao as well?
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Old 2010-10-29, 03:28   Link #1206
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Old 2010-10-29, 05:11   Link #1207
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Old 2010-10-29, 12:18   Link #1208
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Old 2010-10-30, 10:08   Link #1209
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LOL...well, they cut it out of episode 10, but if you want to see her again , I think it should be in chapter 11 - Natsuno Yuuki 08.
It's in chapter 14, actually. I still say it's a real shame they cut out that scene, I thought it was pretty important from a character development standpoint.

As for Natsuno as a daywalker... I can't see it happen, and I don't want it to happen. That would be way too convenient.

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Old 2010-10-30, 10:39   Link #1210
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It's in chapter 14, actually. I still say it's a real shame they cut out that scene, I thought it was pretty important from a character development standpoint.
oops...you're right. it was ep12/ch14. That's what I get from trying to go by memory... It was an interesting scene, wasn't it. Let us know a fair bit about all three characters involved.
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:03   Link #1211
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As for Natsuno as a daywalker... I can't see it happen, and I don't want it to happen. That would be way too convenient.
Tatsumi and Sunako's dad can't be the only 2 daywalkers. The human side needs one too.
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:12   Link #1212
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Tatsumi and Sunako's dad can't be the only 2 daywalkers. The human side needs one too.
Isn't Seishirou human anyway, i think the only actual daywalker is Tatsumi at present. I think it would be funny if Natsuno didn't rise at all and the only reason he has prominence in the OP is because the writers didn't want us to know he died here.
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:16   Link #1213
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Isn't Seishirou human anyway, i think the only actual daywalker is Tatsumi at present. I think it would be funny if Natsuno didn't rise at all and the only reason he has prominence in the OP is because the writers didn't want us to know he died here.
First season OP hinted otherwise but it's never been confirmed. We don't know how he pulled that trick off. A human wouldn't survive very long in a household of vampires.
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:23   Link #1214
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First season OP hinted otherwise but it's never been confirmed. We don't know how he pulled that trick off. A human wouldn't survive very long in a household of vampires.
I always though he was under hypnosis, i just can't get the image of him saying "thank you very much" when they met the contracotrs out of my head. His voice sounded so unemotional and his eyes looked weird. meh maybe i'm just reading into it too much but...
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:28   Link #1215
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Isn't Seishirou human anyway, i think the only actual daywalker is Tatsumi at present....
That's possible, but couldn't Seishirou also be a werewolf-like shiki, as I presume Tatsumi is? The hairstyle is extravagant, though not quite so obviously animal ears, and the team of dogs he had made me think they might be hinting he was a kind of dog himself.
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Old 2010-10-30, 12:30   Link #1216
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That's possible, but couldn't Seishirou also be a werewolf-like shiki, as I presume Tatsumi is? The hairstyle is extravagant, though not quite so obviously animal ears, and the team of dogs he had made me think they might be hinting he was a kind of dog himself.
I never even thought of that, and it reminded me of the dogs in the prologue of the first episode, maybe he really does have a deam of were-wolves in his house.
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Old 2010-10-30, 14:31   Link #1217
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At first I was wondering why the doctor didn't evacuate his wife out but when I saw the icebags, I just started laughing. Using his wife as an experiment is just so insanely cold that it's impressive.

Natsuno's death was amazingly anti-climatic.

Megumi's change is interesting but not really that surprising.
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Old 2010-10-30, 16:04   Link #1218
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What change in Megumi are you guys talking about? She happily killed Toru because he was close to Natsuno and she's now happily planning to attack Kaori because she thinks she'd gotten close to Natsuno too. Nothing new here.

Also, Natsuno's dad had been a right douche before this ep but I couldn't BELIEVE he went off looking for his wife instead of check on Natsuno! The guy's not right in the head at all.

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Old 2010-10-30, 16:33   Link #1219
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What change in Megumi are you guys talking about? She happily killed Toru because he was close to Natsuno and she's now happily planning to attack Kaori because she thinks she'd gotten close to Natsuno too. Nothing new here.

Also, Natsuno's dad had been a right douche before this ep but I couldn't BELIEVE he went off looking for his wife instead of check on Natsuno! The guy's not right in the head at all.
Megumi might have done similar things before, but she seemed to me to take a lot more delight in being evil in this episode than she did before.

Natsuno's parents had their own thing going. Natsuno was definitely second in either of their affection. They dragged him to the country because they themselves wanted to be there. I personally don't feel negative toward them, particularly. They just had their own thing going -- excellent in itself, but hard on those around them and unfortunate in these circumstances. Other people ruin their own relationship by concentrating entirely on the child. Human life.
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