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Old 2010-12-30, 14:14   Link #1881
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Registered just to be able to comment on Shiki. It was an interesting series for sure and it hooked me despite the fact that I usually try not to watch anything that's still airing since the suspense of waiting for new episodes drives me nuts. At first I watched week to week just to boggle at the villagers' willful blindness. I was starting to wonder if it was some sort of character defect in the Japanese that they just took something so stoically. Forget the various hints that there might be something darker than just a sickness. If an unknown disease broke out in their neighborhood and reams of people started dying, I'd think most people would freak out a little. Demand answers? Inquire of the equivalent of the CDC? Maybe take the family out of town? Instead, everyone in the village just continued along like cows, which is what the shiki ended up treating them as. The doctor was the only sane man among the adults and that's just baffling.

As far as I'm concerned, there's absolutely no moral equivalence between the shiki and the humans. The former deserved everything they got and more besides.

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Old 2010-12-30, 14:27   Link #1882
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Eh, the ending could've been better.
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Overall it was a great series, even though the ending left a lot to be desired. I'd give it about a 9
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Old 2010-12-30, 14:37   Link #1883
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Wait WHAT?!!

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Old 2010-12-30, 14:44   Link #1884
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2 more episodes are supposed to be available on DVD's so maybe they tie up some of loose ends.
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Old 2010-12-30, 14:47   Link #1885
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Old 2010-12-30, 14:53   Link #1886
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that's it? really?

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how does the novel end?
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Old 2010-12-30, 15:01   Link #1887
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Excellent anime. The ending could not have been better.
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Old 2010-12-30, 15:19   Link #1888
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Old 2010-12-30, 15:32   Link #1889
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As far as I'm concerned, there's absolutely no moral equivalence between the shiki and the humans. The former deserved everything they got and more besides.

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Said everything I wanted to. I just don't see why so many people keep saying that no one in Shiki is to blame since both Shiki and humans act to survive. Since when is killing many people and raising an army of undead is necessary for survival(Put this line in some character's description and you have your own generic villain ready). No matter how I see it, Sunako is the one at fault. She comes to a village and kills people, get those people to kill even more people just so that she can have her own village. Then she sings how she has to die because she chose to live. Yeah right!
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btw has the manga ended, or was this end anime original?
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Old 2010-12-30, 15:44   Link #1890
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What a fantastic ending. I'm completely satisfied with that last episode, especially knowing that we'll get two DVD only episodes next year which will cover events we didn't see from episode 20 and 21, which will be about Natsuno's side of the story.

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Final thoughts will come later, though easily the best show of 2010, and one of the best from the past 10 years.
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:00   Link #1891
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Did not like that ending at all.
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:10   Link #1892
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Said everything I wanted to. I just don't see why so many people keep saying that no one in Shiki is to blame since both Shiki and humans act to survive. Since when is killing many people and raising an army of undead is necessary for survival(Put this line in some character's description and you have your own generic villain ready). No matter how I see it, Sunako is the one at fault. She comes to a village and kills people, get those people to kill even more people just so that she can have her own village. Then she sings how she has to die because she chose to live. Yeah right!
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btw has the manga ended, or was this end anime original?
Manga is still running, but you have to consider that it's an adaptation too.
PS: the original novels doesn't have Natsuno as one of lead characters though...
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:13   Link #1893
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:31   Link #1894
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Excellent anime. The ending could not have been better.
hmmm well i thought it was uttter crap. The 2 ppl who needed to die ended up surviving. The ending really didnt end anything since things are just going to continue since sunoko and now a twisted priest are still alive. Nats was the only one who turned that wasnt morally corrupted, but since he is assumed dead theres no one to combat the other 2 now. I say assumed cus you can never say for sure both are dead since off camera deaths are not conclusive, if they can show someones head being ran over with a tractor they could have shown 2 guys blowing up. I actually felt sorry for megumi a bit since she had one of the most horrific deaths along with toshio's wife. Was also a pitty she never saw nats again

As i said before i havent really liked this show since the 2nd half started, i thought the 1st have was vastly superior. I'd almost love to see a part 2 with Nats continued story.
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:33   Link #1895
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:39   Link #1896
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:46   Link #1897
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But anyways, it was fun watching the Shiki die. Well, they are already dead, sorry.
After all, absolutely no pity for them.

BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED FIRST!
Other than Natsuno and Rit-chan of course, and maybe Toshio's wife (though I really doubt she can resist the urge).

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As far as I'm concerned, there's absolutely no moral equivalence between the shiki and the humans. The former deserved everything they got and more besides.
Other than Sunako's core group, all those shiki were former villagers. What this means is that, for the purpose of this show, the majority of the villagers would act just like them if they are in their positions.
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Old 2010-12-30, 16:57   Link #1898
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The Saki shop owner learned a hard lesson. Never monologue in front of your enemy, it almost always means certain death
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Old 2010-12-30, 17:00   Link #1899
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Old 2010-12-30, 17:07   Link #1900
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