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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st - rating
Perfect 10 59 44.03%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 39 29.10%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 8.96%
7 out of 10 : Good 17 12.69%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 1.49%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.75%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.75%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.24%
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Old 2010-03-07, 23:34   Link #1081
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It wasn't an argument. Whatever it was, if you wanted it to end, it is so much easier to just stop posting. Rather than present me with pointless assumptions stating that I'm the one who is making the assumptions.

@Kaijo: Really need to consider the eastern fanbase though. Who are they trying to tailor to? Because frankly, while us westerners benefit off the anime, they don't profit much off us. In Nanoha's case, anyways. Considering the total flop the licensed release was.

Says you! hehe
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Old 2010-03-07, 23:40   Link #1082
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Yeah, I know it's mainly made for the second, but it *is* popular with both demographics.
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Old 2010-03-07, 23:42   Link #1083
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I'll stop in to add that despite Horo being nude for, I dunno, most of episodes 1 and 2, not to mention the OP, I thought it was done very tastefully and without any weird tones. (Even though Horo is, essentially, one huge tease.) On the other hand, alot of shows that have less nudity can still be focused on fan-service. It's not about skin, it's about how it's presented.

To that end, Nanoha? I'd say it's middle of the road. It's not exactly presented to be creepy (I think, anyway,) but I can see where some people might get some wrong ideas. Particularly when StrikerS introduces characters who are a bit more, ah, well developed.

But my, what an awkward topic.
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Old 2010-03-07, 23:43   Link #1084
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But my, what an awkward topic.
That's part of the fun of the Nanoha fandom. Come for the show, stay for the topics discussed.
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Old 2010-03-07, 23:48   Link #1085
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It's a well known fact that Nanoha was made for the male 19-30 demographic.
I feel like such a dirty old man.

I just think they're cute girls who have a good story. I like cute girls. I like good stories. I like MSLN.
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Old 2010-03-08, 00:13   Link #1086
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It's okay Mushi. You're a dirty old man who appreciates child innocence and doesn't try to sexualize them.
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Old 2010-03-08, 01:30   Link #1087
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Appreciates child innocence. That sounds most deliciously pedophilic. God bless us, God forgive us! Judge and Jury pardon us!
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Old 2010-03-08, 02:33   Link #1088
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Genuine appreciation and admiration for the beauty and vibrancy of youthful femininity.

And... should I?

Oh, why not...

Spoiler for Since Nya~n already brought up the "P" word...:
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Old 2010-03-08, 02:57   Link #1089
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What could men in their teens and twenties possibly find so attractive about a mahou shoujo, that women don't. hmmm?
i find this a discrimitary statement
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:01   Link #1090
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...........

*goes into a Nanoha imagedump site and retrieves a pic*

Ack-hem! Let's do a little test to draw out the lolicons, then. >:3

Spoiler for Your reaction will signify your rank in the lolicon ranking charts.:


*waits for reactions while holding a white-hot steel brand with LOLICON written on it*

:3


Aside from that, Nya~n, did somebody just hijack your account? I don't remember you speaking with wrong grammar and I'm pretty sure you know how to spell 'discriminatory.'
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:05   Link #1091
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LOLICONNNNNNNNNNNN



@___@: I was typing with one hand and my lunch in the other. my typo is justified. =3
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:10   Link #1092
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i find this a discrimitary statement
Enlighten me.
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:12   Link #1093
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Go figure it out, genius.
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:19   Link #1094
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...........

*goes into a Nanoha imagedump site and retrieves a pic*

Ack-hem! Let's do a little test to draw out the lolicons, then. >:3

Spoiler for Your reaction will signify your rank in the lolicon ranking charts.:


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Old 2010-03-08, 03:19   Link #1095
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Kay, I'll use my genius-like abilities to deduce you're not worth the time.
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Old 2010-03-08, 03:49   Link #1096
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What could men in their teens and twenties possibly find so attractive about a mahou shoujo, that women don't. hmmm?

So did you just imply that males fans of magical girl and by extension Nanoha are just there for the little girls naked shot ?
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Old 2010-03-08, 04:10   Link #1097
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I'd say that's a part of why a lot of them are there, yes.

It would be no different than removing any other necessary scene. They'd still watch it, and probably enjoy it, but they'd be a bit peeved. Kind of like how so many are complaining about how they scrapped the scene where Fate flies to Nanoha's hands before the garden of time collapses.
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Old 2010-03-08, 04:10   Link #1098
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You bring up an interested point; is there a double standard? Goku was naked quite often as a little boy, and he actually did have genitalia detailed a bit, at least way more than Nanoha and Fate do. Was that sexual? Is it only sexual when girls are naked?
I'll raise you one: Erio, the only guy in the Nanoha series to even get a henshin was not allowed to get naked at all.

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So far as I know, Strike Witches is also largely considered to be something of a magical girl show despite what it deals with, and even then none of the girls really have henshin sequences; unless you consider the bits where their ears and tails pop out henshin sequences. Of course, I could be wrong; I've always considered it something of a magical girl show, honestly, but that's just how I interpreted it.
The term for shows that combine girls with machinery is 'mecha musume' which is an entirely different genre on it's own.

Rare too, sadly.

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What could men in their teens and twenties possibly find so attractive about a mahou shoujo, that women don't. hmmm?
Fanservice, obviously. However that doesn't mean this is the only thing that attracts them. Girls are more often attracted to the cuteness factor rather than the sexy factor, but that doesn't mean the same can't be the case for guys (and vice versa).

And in terms of Nanoha, girls duking it out in uncharacteristically awesome magic fights is the main attraction.
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Old 2010-03-08, 04:46   Link #1099
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I'd say that's a part of why a lot of them are there, yes.

It would be no different than removing any other necessary scene. They'd still watch it, and probably enjoy it, but they'd be a bit peeved. Kind of like how so many are complaining about how they scrapped the scene where Fate flies to Nanoha's hands before the garden of time collapses.

You are making a grand generalisation and i am pretty sure that's what ticked Nya~n, i am not a fan of magical girl show and i dislike naked transformation sequence and i still like a good part of the Nanoha franchise.
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Old 2010-03-08, 04:49   Link #1100
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So Demi., have you worked it out yet? or are we are simply, I quote you, "not worth (your) time"?
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