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Old 2013-06-13, 07:17   Link #3281
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By the way, it seems we finally get to know that the album contains. Finally, I've been wondering about the content of the album since the first time I saw it.
Album? What's this you're talking about?

Edit: nevermind, figured it out. He meant the album Kirino was going to show to him at the end of volume 4.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:24   Link #3282
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Technically it is a Kirino end, it's just unclear whether that means in a romantic sense or a sibling sense. Whatever evidence you bring up doesn't change how the ending leaves it open for people to decide for themselves.
Yes, siblings kiss each other for fun, they give each other live counseling trough eroges and watching h-scene together etc. just for fun. And wow kyousuke is one hell of a smartass for figuring out how his imouto thinks. When all her reactions are tsundere and her actions dont make sense to him?

Your claim about if it is real love or plain sibling love. Really you haven't confinced me yet.

EDIT: i think you have to go read the summary's of volume 12, maybe you will understand were we are comming from.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:30   Link #3283
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Yes, siblings kiss each other for fun, they give each other live counseling trough eroges and watching h-scene together etc. just for fun. And wow kyousuke is one hell of a smartass for figuring out how his imouto thinks. When all her reactions are tsundere and her actions dont make sense to him?

Your claim about if it is real love or plain sibling love. Really you haven't confinced me yet.
I don't think that his plan is to convince you or anything.That's just his own opinion and it's definitively a legit opinion.But I think too that Kyousuke and Kirino love each other in a romantically way.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:30   Link #3284
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Yes, siblings kiss each other for fun, they give each other live counseling trough eroges and watching h-scene together etc. just for fun. And wow kyousuke is one hell of a smartass for figuring out how his imouto thinks. When all her reactions are tsundere and her actions dont make sense to him?

Your claim about if it is real love or plain sibling love. Really you haven't confinced me yet.

EDIT: i think you have to go read the summary's of volume 12, maybe you will understand were we are comming from. With that he has real love for her and not just plain sibling love just to make her dream come true.
Real love or not doesn't change the fact that they BOTH decided to break up after the wedding. Their feelings don't disappear, but what they do about them is a mystery. Please just understand that if nothing else, I don't expect you do switch to my point of view but the ending is the way it is for a reason.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:32   Link #3285
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6 more days and the Blu-ray releases with the short story,so I think we can wait for the time being arguing about something for now is somehow ''unclear'' and maybe the short story will lighten things up.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:38   Link #3286
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From the rumors I've heard, the 10-years reunion is just Kirino listening to her 15 yr old self asking her 25 yr old self how to solve her problems. This doesn't exactly sound very substantial, and I think someone said it is unlikely that they would spoil the ending of the series to those who only watch the anime.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:40   Link #3287
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From the rumors I've heard, the 10-years reunion is just Kirino listening to her 15 yr old self asking her 25 yr old self how to solve her problems. This doesn't exactly sound very substantial, and I think someone said it is unlikely that they would spoil the ending of the series to those who only watch the anime.
Yeah, I find that hard to believe as well. The 10 years later story will maybe have a slight hint, but it will be open to interpretation again I'm sure.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:48   Link #3288
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I don't know why the desire to say that they don't love in a romantic way.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:58   Link #3289
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From the rumors I've heard, the 10-years reunion is just Kirino listening to her 15 yr old self asking her 25 yr old self how to solve her problems. This doesn't exactly sound very substantial, and I think someone said it is unlikely that they would spoil the ending of the series to those who only watch the anime.
Yes, if it is that way. Then it is almost clear that it will reveal nothing. How can they spoil the ending of the novel if the anime has not finished yet? And not everyone who watches the anime has read the novels. So if it really reveals something about how life continues after the novel volume 12. The one buying the blu ray would be confused if he read this. If he only watches anime.

I think that the ending that we have at this moment (unclear/or maybe not). Is the ending that we have to be satisfied with (if we liked it or not).

But there is always hope....................................... 19th we will know.

EDIT: Is the 10 after story being sold with the anime (blu ray/dvd) or is it sold separately? if it is the first then, I DONT EXPECT NOTHING FROM IT!
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:00   Link #3290
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Yeah, I find that hard to believe as well. The 10 years later story will maybe have a slight hint, but it will be open to interpretation again I'm sure.
Perhaps she could ask something like, "Will I ever be with the person I love?" That would be specific enough for Light Novel readers, but vague enough for anime viewers I think.

If Fushimi were to somehow (god forbid) make it even more ambiguous, he would be committing literary suicide.
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EDIT: Is the 10 after story being sold with the anime (blu ray/dvd) or is it sold separately? if it is the first then, I DONT EXPECT NOTHING FROM IT!
I'm pretty sure it will be bundled with the blu-ray
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:09   Link #3291
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I don't know why the desire to say that they don't love in a romantic way.
That isn't what I'm saying if you are referring to me. What I desire is of little consequence, the ending neither confirms or denies where they go with their relationship that is all I'm saying.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:15   Link #3292
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That isn't what I'm saying if you are referring to me. What I desire is of little consequence, the ending neither confirms or denies where they go with their relationship that is all I'm saying.
His mind was running amok when he saw her sleeping with him,he badly wanted to cuddle her,intentions are clear but of course its still ''ambiguous'' for some. For me I think its crystal clear,even if they promised I still dont believe it. Both were lying the whole time and now you expect them to say something true? Kirino finally got him to love her,doubt she will ever let him slip away ever.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:19   Link #3293
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That isn't what I'm saying if you are referring to me. What I desire is of little consequence, the ending neither confirms or denies where they go with their relationship that is all I'm saying.
That is a opening ending, I want to believe that they would be together in a future, and other guy could think that they gonna be back to "normal siblings".

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His mind was running amok when he saw her sleeping with him,he badly wanted to cuddle her,intentions are clear but of course its still ''ambiguous'' for some. For me I think its crystal clear,even if they promised I still dont believe it. Both were lying the whole time and now you expect them to say something true? Kirino finally got him to love her,doubt she will ever let him slip away ever.
She sleep with him? (Without sex, for sure xD) I want to see it animated, I am not reading the vol12, I want to see the 13th episode and in the period between the 13th and the 14th I will read the vol12 D:
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:20   Link #3294
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His mind was running amok when he saw her sleeping with him,he badly wanted to cuddle her,intentions are clear but of course its still ''ambiguous'' for some. For me I think its crystal clear,even if they promised I still dont believe it. Both were lying the whole time and now you expect them to say something true? Kirino finally got him to love her,doubt she will ever let him slip away ever.
They were truthful with their feelings for each other but they lie about breaking it off, that doesn't flow, even more so since it was just them around and they have no reason to lie about breaking it off if they really are not ending it. His intentions don't translate to how their story continues after the ending, and Kirino is loved by him now whether romantic or as a sibling. He's not going anywhere, how they proceed is again up to the reader.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:24   Link #3295
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I don't know why the desire to say that they don't love in a romantic way.
The problem with a novel for me is. You can't guess clearly what the character thinks and what he feels. Only if he says it clearly!

Face expressions etc are important too in knowing how sombody feels. The part of volume 12 at the ending when animated (hopefully) will make things much more clear.

It is very easy to twist things and give the story another meaning. Besides i also think it is hard to fully understand the japanese writting language trough translations. Even if it is a full translation, there will be always things that will make you confused because in Japanese those words have a double meaning.

And Oreimo is a novel were words are importent trough the whole story, to understand what had really happend. They way kirino acts from begin till end, the way kyousuke thinks and acts from the beginning till end. The writter is in my point of view not some stupid idiot.

Who thought fuck it. Let's go the harem route and we will see what happens. And after he wrote himself in a hole he thought shit what have i done. Let us repair it through an open ending to get everyone satesfied. noooo. I dont think that this were his actions.

I think from the start he wanted this ending. A hint for me was what someone told me. The way kirino asked kyousuke at the beginning what do you think about my hobby. In japanese it has a double meaning. She asked how he thinks about it in his own point of view and not the point of view of the society.

So practicaly she didnt care what society thought about her hobby. Why did she do this?. Why did she repeated a lot of times before she know sure that his point of view towards her hobby will not be made fun with? In the meantime she had normal friends like ayase etc. She didnt tell them about her hobbys. She didnt even care to make friends to share her hobby with them.

The solution to this is: it was a secret relationship that she wanted from the start, between her and her brother. And that is why i think it ended that way at the end. And this writter thought about this very well.

But this is just a interpetation so, it is for you to decide what to think about the story.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:25   Link #3296
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So the 1st DVD/BD of the anime has a bonus novel that will take place 10 years after the LN's ending. This explains why the pre-order of the 1st BD/DVD had a sudden huge increase these past several days. The pre-order stalker points for the vol.1 BD of the anime reached almost 7000 a week ago (which took 2 months), but now it has reached over 17,000. Similar trend also occurred with DVD vol. 1. The start of the huge increase coincides with the LN final volume's release.

So I guess a lot of OreImo fans want to know what happens 10 years later as soon as possible that they would buy the BD/DVD.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:32   Link #3297
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Did the author say that he will add contents outside from the novel to the anime so it can clear things up???
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:33   Link #3298
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Did the author say that he will add contents outside from the novel to the anime so it can clear things up???
He did say that he will add some scenes that weren't in the novel,but he didn't say it would clear up anything.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:37   Link #3299
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They were truthful with their feelings for each other but they lie about breaking it off, that doesn't flow, even more so since it was just them around and they have no reason to lie about breaking it off if they really are not ending it. His intentions don't translate to how their story continues after the ending, and Kirino is loved by him now whether romantic or as a sibling. He's not going anywhere, how they proceed is again up to the reader.
I think that they broke up because the social drawbacks. That love could repercute in a marginality (Study, find work, law ban the marriage between siblings) Kirino is a under-age, that could do that Kyosuke have serious problems with his live.

If I were him I would be waiting until she became into a adult. If she still in love with him, they could continue that history.

They still love each other in a romantic way but they think that is better to break up because their history love have serious problems with sociaty. She don't want to ruin his live and he the same with her.
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:38   Link #3300
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He did say that he will add some scenes that weren't in the novel,but he didn't say it would clear up anything.
I wonder what kind of scenes he'll add,anyway be at an open ending or not,I just want Volume 12 to be completely animated without cutting any scene nor any changes. This is all what I am asking for.
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