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Old 2013-06-14, 12:23   Link #3561
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I think the game ''sister maker'' contained 6 different characters who dont look alike right? Kirino-Ayase-Kuroneko-Manami-Kanako-Sakurai = 6 . In the end Kirino won lol
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Old 2013-06-14, 12:27   Link #3562
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Old 2013-06-14, 12:32   Link #3563
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Hmm nice very nice,he is already getting everyone's support. Thx again for your good job.
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Old 2013-06-14, 12:33   Link #3564
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Nice part,but actually kinda lame at the same time.Nothing really happened.But great that Sena is on the Kousaka-siblings side.
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Old 2013-06-14, 12:54   Link #3565
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no problem here, but it seem like he wrote the novel like an Galge game with Kirino is the main heroine and he also stated that there will not alway be good path before her, so i think this confirmed a Kirino end.
P.S; i'm actually more interested in the author new work, seeing as it's in progressed already.
Kirino and Kyosuke still in love? What interpretation won?
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Old 2013-06-14, 13:51   Link #3566
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───12巻は全体的に美少女ゲーム(ギャルゲー)を意識した構成になっていて、原点に帰った印 象を受けま す。
vol 12 is written like a bishoujo game(Galge), make an impression like return to the beginning.
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伏見:そうですね。狙って1巻っぽいシーンを書いています。すべてに決着をつけて禁断の道に突 っ込むという 痛快な物語は、電撃文庫で、直接描くのは、とても難しいですし、桐乃を幸せにするエンドにしよ うと決めた以 上、彼女の今後には、可能な限り良いレールを敷いてやらなくてはいけないし……非常に悩みまし た。結果は、 読んでいただいたとおりなのですが、再読する方向けに、蛇足ながらコメントさせていただくと、
That's right, i'm writing a scene like vol 1, in dengenki Bunko, to write direcly is difficult, even more than kirino happy end, in her future,it's never always good rail.. (reru, i'm not good at katakana, ask someone to confirm it)make me feel troubled, the end is as you have read, but you can re-read and comment your own views.

・「完全なる桐乃エンド」
Complete Kirino end
・「最初の人生相談と同じように、兄妹は、二人だけの秘密を抱えて終わる」
like the life consultation, the two siblings holding a secret at the end.

12巻は、そんなお話です
volume 12, is that kind of story.

i quite confident in my jpese but not my english so if there are any prob please tell me
I don't know if understand the bolded text correctly ...
Is the autor saying
1) the definitive end is that apresented in volume 12 (like spoiled back)
2) and it is a Kirino end
3) and we are free to read and re-read it just to understand in any way?

In other words: there is not a conclusion about the way Kirino e Kyousuke handled their relationship except that created by the readers imagination?

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Old 2013-06-14, 14:05   Link #3567
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I don't know if understand the bolded text correctly ...
Is the autor saying
1) the definitive end is that apresented in volume 12 (like spoiled back)
2) and it is a Kirino end
3) and we are free to read and re-read it just to understand in any way?

In other words: there is not a conclusion about the way Kirino e Kyousuke handled their relationship except that created by the readers imagination?
We should probably wait for a translation we can understand.
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Basically he says they've gone as far as they can in the sibling relationship without any legal issues (which means we would get a full incest pregnant end if the publisher would let him do it). It was Kirino end and their romatic relationship continues in secret.
Of course, that also includes a subjective opinion, but the guy can read the Japanese and I think anything helps at this point.
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Old 2013-06-14, 14:27   Link #3568
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I don't know if understand the bolded text correctly ...
It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.


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As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
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Old 2013-06-14, 14:42   Link #3569
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As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
There were definitely heavy implications for this kind of ending, but now that it has been set in stone I feel much better for some reason. But like he said, Oreimo can't really delve that far into the heavy drama, so we can't ever really know what will happen after that.
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Old 2013-06-14, 14:43   Link #3570
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But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
Well, that's the way people work. People always have their own imagination, and as long as the door is not 100% foolproof closed, there will always be people forming their own ideas.
Spoiler for Comparison to Code Geass R2:
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Old 2013-06-14, 14:44   Link #3571
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That is a Skype conversation I would like to have seen. I can only imagine the cuteness.
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:03   Link #3572
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It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.


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As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
I love this author even more. That totally confirms it for me. Live counseling is the key . Can't wait for his next work.
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:09   Link #3573
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It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.




---

As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
Thanks Virox and Relentlessflame.
I am more calm after your reponses.
I think a happy end to Kirino's point of view really would be stay together with who she loves. Its the reason because I strongly inclinated to believe that she and Kyousuke will develop more the romantic side of their relationship.
It not makes me totally satisfied but it was ever the most probably thing to happen.

Lets wait more news!
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:28   Link #3574
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It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.


---

As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.
Very happy with this conclusion as it supports our evidence from the final Volume.
Now to send off this great series,make sure you animate it completely,anything but that would be a disappointment.
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Also should be mentioned that their relationship was hardly a secret before, as they told [almost] everyone about it. I think there's only one shared secret they can have, but I wonder if people will deny it~
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:30   Link #3576
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Is this a win to the KirixKyosuke's fans?
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:32   Link #3577
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Also should be mentioned that their relationship was hardly a secret before, as they told [almost] everyone about it. I think there's only one shared secret they can have, but I wonder if people will deny it~
I wonder who you mean

Edit: Also no one ever answered my question as to whether the marriage ceremony they had was a secret. (before you hit me for being stupid remember I'm waiting on full translations so details escape me)
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:44   Link #3578
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Edit: Also no one ever answered my question as to whether the marriage ceremony they had was a secret. (before you hit me for being stupid remember I'm waiting on full translations so details escape me)
I'm still going to hit you for being stupid. This is a novel thread. Read the information presented about what's in the novels so you can be part of the discussion. If you won't read the novels or the summaries, then wait until the full translations before you participate in discussion or speculation, because otherwise you're operating without the necessary information to make informed commentary.
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:46   Link #3579
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I want to see all the cuteness of Vol.12 animated in 3 OVAs :3
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Old 2013-06-14, 15:49   Link #3580
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I'm still going to hit you for being stupid. This is a novel thread. Read the information presented about what's in the novels so you can be part of the discussion. If you won't read the novels or the summaries, then wait until the full translations before you participate in discussion or speculation, because otherwise you're operating without the necessary information to make informed commentary.
Nice, well hey man I've read a lot of the spoilers and some of the quick translations but excuse me for having opinions that don't match yours and wanting to read a translation that isn't done quickly. You've said many times we have to wait for the full translations to be sure about things.

Didn't even bother answering the question either
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