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Old 2012-09-12, 09:21   Link #1321
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whose the girl in your avatar Philos
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Old 2012-09-12, 10:24   Link #1322
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whose the girl in your avatar Philos
That is an even younger Kirino and a very young Kyosuke.
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Old 2012-09-12, 14:24   Link #1323
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It's not that twisted.

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Here's a post which analyzes Manami more.
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Old 2012-09-12, 15:28   Link #1324
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Just like my thought. I think his feeling is only a siscon thing, not incest. And siscon doesn't have to be incest every time. It may lead to incest but is not incest. Unlike Kirino who clearly love him as a man, not her brother.
Well, are you talking about feelings, or likelihood to put those feelings into action?

The only real difference between Kirino and Kyousuke is that Kirino really only has eyes for one man: Kyousuke. Meanwhile, Kyousuke has lots of different women vying for his affection, and he's been shown to be attracted to many of them. So, no matter what less-than-pure feelings Kyousuke may harbour for Kirino, his likelihood of actually doing anything about it is automatically less. And as long as he doesn't actually do anything about it, it could be largely passed off as him just being a really severe siscon, and that they're just "really, really close siblings". (It all depends on where you draw the line. Personally, I draw the line a little further back than others do, it seems.)

The only person who would have to deal with the consequence of that is whoever Kyousuke's partner ends up being, because they'd have to understand the pedestal Kyousuke places Kirino on, and that they'd potentially always feel like they were competing with Kirino for Kyousuke's affection. We see this very thing shown in Ruri's arc, in fact. Anyone who goes out with Kyousuke has to basically understand that Kirino (and Kyousuke's affection towards her) is pretty much part of the deal; luckily both Ayase and Ruri seem to understand this.
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Old 2012-09-12, 15:33   Link #1325
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luckily both Ayase and Ruri seem to understand this.
Ayase: Kirino is also mine!
Ruri: Kirino is a close friend.
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Old 2012-09-12, 20:59   Link #1326
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I read the last seven pages and I finally understood the maelstrom that ripped apart every community that has been following the Oreimo series.

Shokuzai no Serenade have never been so fitting a theme song for this ultimate battle for Kyousuke.

And welp, there's a time traveler on /a/.

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Brotip: Manami is the final boss.
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Old 2012-09-12, 21:07   Link #1327
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That has been one of the earliest theories since the series began. What was special was that almost no one expected it to have happened the way it did.
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Old 2012-09-12, 21:18   Link #1328
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Well, the author really gave a pretty equal enough chance for each of the four main pairings (xKirino, xAyase, xRuri and xManami) to develop. But yes, very few actually expected this bomb to explode.

Right now, they are comparing Manami's actions to a combination of Nao and Iinchou from Yosuga no Sora.
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Old 2012-09-12, 21:18   Link #1329
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luckily both Ayase and Ruri seem to understand this.
It's true that both Kirino's close friends seem to understand. But I don't think Ayase can accept Kirino's true feeling like Kuroneko. Kuroneko said she don't mind if Kyousuke has sex with Kirino because that is what Kirino wishes, but Ayase will absolutely oppose about this. I wonder what's her reaction if Ayase knows Kirino wants to have sex with her brother.
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Old 2012-09-12, 21:21   Link #1330
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It's true that both Kirino's close friends seem to understand. But I don't think Ayase can accept Kirino's true feeling like Kuroneko. Kuroneko said she don't mind if Kyousuke has sex with Kirino because that is what Kirino wishes, but Ayase will absolutely oppose about this. I wonder what's her reaction if Ayase knows Kirino wants to have sex with her brother.
I don't know... if the way to "get" Kirino is to allow her to "share" Kyousuke, I think Ayase may come around to it...

(Not entirely serious... but not entirely joking either... )
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Old 2012-09-12, 21:36   Link #1331
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It's true that both Kirino's close friends seem to understand. But I don't think Ayase can accept Kirino's true feeling like Kuroneko. Kuroneko said she don't mind if Kyousuke has sex with Kirino because that is what Kirino wishes, but Ayase will absolutely oppose about this. I wonder what's her reaction if Ayase knows Kirino wants to have sex with her brother.
Keep in mind Kuroneko is quite a bit of a troller. She says things to watch the reaction they get. I always try to keep in mind *who* Kuroneko is saying things to.

Ayase would probably blame Kyousuke for corrupting Kirino <rofl>.
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Old 2012-09-12, 22:43   Link #1332
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「仕方ないことなんかなぁ、この世に一個だってねーんだよ!」 -> Not sure about translation (Kyousuke?)
「学校に行ったら負けだと思っている」 -> "I remember experiencing defeat at school" (Kirino?)
「その謎のペットボトルは…まさか…おまえ禁断の行為を…!」 -> "That mysterious plastic bottle... it can't be... are you planning something indecent...!" (Ayase?)
「『凄いお兄ちゃん』なんて、最初からいなかったんだよ」 -> "That "cool onii-chan" that you admired didn't even exist." (Manami)
「そんなことで、お兄ちゃんを嫌いになるわけないじゃん」 -> "Well, it's not like I hate onii-chan or anything!" (Kirino?)
「だから。あたしは、あんたのことが嫌いになったんだよ」 -> "That's why, I will, hate you" (Kirino?)
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Old 2012-09-12, 22:48   Link #1333
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「そんなことで、お兄ちゃんを嫌いになるわけないじゃん」 -> "Well, it's not like I would hate onii-chan or anything for that!"
「だから。あたしは、あんたのことが嫌いになったんだよ」 -> "That's why I started to hate you."
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Old 2012-09-12, 22:54   Link #1334
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^ Thanks. Does those two lines happen before and after, or during Manami's "soapbox" scene?
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Old 2012-09-12, 23:09   Link #1335
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「学校に行ったら負けだと思っている」 -> "I remember experiencing defeat at school" (Kirino?)
I think this should be "I think it's kind of lose if I go to school."
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「その謎のペットボトルは…まさか…おまえ禁断の行為を…!」 -> "That mysterious plastic bottle... it can't be... are you planning something indecent...!" (Ayase?)
Guess from word "おまえ" I think this should be said by Kyousuke, because "おまえ" is not a polite word. If it's Ayase she will use word "あなた" instead.
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^ Thanks. Does those two lines happen before and after, or during Manami's "soapbox" scene?
IMO, the first one is before and the second one is after.
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Old 2012-09-13, 03:37   Link #1336
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Were there any particular moments with Ayase in volume 11 that really stood out? I'm just curious if the author dropped any hints in her favor.
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Old 2012-09-13, 10:34   Link #1337
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New interview (NSFW ads):

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51359718.html

Anybody willing to translate? Fushimi's feedback is always interesting to read
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Old 2012-09-13, 14:46   Link #1338
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New interview (NSFW ads):

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51359718.html

Anybody willing to translate? Fushimi's feedback is always interesting to read
Just use google translate.
I use Google chrome which allows me to auto-translate almost all the japanese texts in Korean.
Most of translation in Korean is accurate because Korean and Japanese have same grammar structure.
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Old 2012-09-13, 15:54   Link #1339
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Yes, but how many of us actually know Korean? I think among Animesuki Oreimo fans it's you and me.
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Old 2012-09-13, 19:17   Link #1340
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「学校に行ったら負けだと思っている」 -> "I remember experiencing defeat at school" (Kirino?)
"I'd feel like I'd lost if I went to school." It's a take on the famous "働いたら負け" (I'd feel like I'd lost if I worked) line spouted by a NEET in a documentary on why some people choose not to work. "Lost" as in "bowed to the pressures of society/entered the rat race/lost to The Man" etc. You can get more info by Googling the original line.

I think Nagi in Hayate no Gotoku has also spoofed that line before, probably along the same lines as whoever spoke it in OreImo.
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