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Old 2013-09-01, 08:02   Link #4161
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Yes, spoilers (edit: spoiler TAGS) would be nice
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Old 2013-09-01, 08:24   Link #4162
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Spoilers you say?
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Old 2013-09-01, 08:56   Link #4163
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Edit: This shouldn't of been said.

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Old 2013-09-01, 09:01   Link #4164
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Yeah dude, fuck you.
I am sorry, I didn't your read post properly, only Konakaga's and the one on the top of this page and thought someone wanted actual results.

Here mang, teaser vid of upcoming Sivir visual rework. Hope they rework her kit as well. I haven't seen her picked in either EU or NA LCS so far.
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Old 2013-09-01, 17:37   Link #4165
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Ok then, my apologies for that message then, it certainly seemed to me that you were being rather terrible with that but if that's the case then what I said was completely unjustified.
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Old 2013-09-01, 19:34   Link #4166
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I really hope this doesn't catch on for nunu players...
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Or back to perma ban on Nunu again it goes, ugh.
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Old 2013-09-01, 19:40   Link #4167
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^ Trick2g always finds a way to make a nerfed champion broken.

Or make a lot of people try and just fail horrible at it.
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Old 2013-09-02, 09:08   Link #4168
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Today I found out my top lane Quinn absolutely destroys Riven, she tried a daring level one all in since she had barrier/ignite that failed, too bad she went longsword not red pot .

I went 20/5/3 to riven's 3/18/4, oh did I mention she got 3 ganks top to my zero? Been awhile since my kills got so high outside of a bot game .
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Old 2013-09-02, 10:15   Link #4169
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I am sorry, I didn't your read post properly, only Konakaga's and the one on the top of this page and thought someone wanted actual results.

Here mang, teaser vid of upcoming Sivir visual rework. Hope they rework her kit as well. I haven't seen her picked in either EU or NA LCS so far.
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Yawn, Gragas needs it more. XD
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Old 2013-09-02, 12:26   Link #4170
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Today I found out my top lane Quinn absolutely destroys Riven, she tried a daring level one all in since she had barrier/ignite that failed, too bad she went longsword not red pot
Red pot starts just scream gank time, resulting in tower hugging and more caution, thus being useful only in the case of a jungle gank, but...it's just better to get some lane sustenance instead, it's a high-risk, average reward tactic (because out of the 400g you'd have to subtract the two lost minion waves while you're pilling back, unless you're a ganking god that gets a clean kill at LV1...or run TP - but then how'd the gank go?).

As for Sivir...don't really use her, 100% because of her short range and gimped Q over multiple enemies. Not saying that she's bad, but it's really a situational pick.
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Old 2013-09-02, 21:39   Link #4171
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Sivir is great against champions like Caitlyn/etc because traps give her mana.
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Old 2013-09-02, 21:43   Link #4172
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Sivir is actually pretty awful against Caitlyn because of the range difference. Sivir has the same range as Graves IIRC.

Sivir is great against Leona, Thresh and Blitzcrank supports though cause of spellshield.
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Old 2013-09-02, 21:54   Link #4173
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Sivir is actually pretty awful against Caitlyn because of the range difference. Sivir has the same range as Graves IIRC.

Sivir is great against Leona, Thresh and Blitzcrank supports though cause of spellshield.
Leona still latches onto you even if you spell shield it.
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Old 2013-09-02, 22:08   Link #4174
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Not really. The range difference isn't enough to make Sivir bad against Caitlyn. Caitlyn out ranges everyone and she just have built in lane-dominance. Sivir isn't good against Caitlyn either but she does have that gimmick with the traps. Kog'Maw is relatively good against Caitlyn since he is the only one that can trade with her. Bot lane is a 2 man lane so it isn't just "this adc counters that adc".
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Old 2013-09-02, 22:13   Link #4175
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The two adcs that are "good" against Caitlyn are varus and ashe since they only have a 50 range diff between caitlyn but are also more useful post laning phase. Graves, Sivir, Vayne and Quinn have some of the lowest ranges (it's over a 100 difference) which is why I say Caitlyn is good against them. 50 range you can make a deficit but 100+ is too much.

But you are right in that supports make a huge difference. But try vsing a Cait + Janna/Sona/Nami. You would want to poke you're eyes out against that poke/harass kinda lane if you're not playing an adc that has some decent range.
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Old 2013-09-03, 08:06   Link #4176
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Twitch and Vayne both have 100 range less than Cait and are picked all the time in professional games.
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Old 2013-09-03, 08:42   Link #4177
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I never said anything about Twitch and Vayne being uncompetitive though.
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Old 2013-09-03, 10:23   Link #4178
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Shit lol I just played an epic game that lasted over 60 minutes. I was Cait, my team had Sivir, Ashe, and 2 other carries. Game went back and forth, both teams lost 1 inhibitor each but we had the 2 side towers at base standing. The other team did a 5 man rush at mid and I teleported to bottom lane where our creeps were hitting the nexus towers.

Then I dc-ed and couldn't reconnect. The game was over when I restarted and we won. If anyone was in that game, please let me know how it ended.
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Old 2013-09-04, 04:45   Link #4179
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What do you call it when enemy Blitz pulls your golem and then Syndra immediately grabs it and drops it on the inner turret, where J4 smites it?
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