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Old 2010-04-14, 11:51   Link #281
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I'm confused. I bought the Lyrical Box awhile ago but didn't realize there was a DLC thing. Where's this DLC thing? How do I find it? Where do I go? Except for the pictures in the artbook, I'm not even sure what it is.
The DLC card is a PREORDER ONLY item. You only get it if you preordered it before it was officially released.

The DLC itself is a special PSP program/game
which contains a: Vinette Clock - which you see in the pictures in the artbook, where the characters that are shown are doing random activities.

Bind Breaker - the NSFW game that everyone's talking about usually

Movies

PSP theme

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For all other DLC items, you can find it on the Japan PSN network.

The main program is free, however each of the DLC parts that specialize in one character per DLC are 800 yen per each. The PREORDER DLC was the one that gave you Nanoha.
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Old 2010-04-14, 14:17   Link #282
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Darn. Well since I didn't know anything about it before, it's not like I lost anything. Would've been nice to get a little extra content for the price I paid. Well, whatever, guess I'll just enjoy what I have.
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Old 2010-04-15, 00:54   Link #283
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afk killing someone for Nanoha DLC.

On that note, starting to slowly do Zafira's script. I thought my hearing was decent, but I guess not, lolol. Maybe it'll get better.

Spoiler for Prologue:
Spoiler for Stage 1:
I think I have more than a few screws loose to even try typing this out because people will start thinking I'm a closet translator again. Also orz if I made any minor typos, though the kanji should be right.

And figured out that it doesn't matter how much you win in the first match. It's the last match that decides the dialogue, but I haven't tested this out with losing the first match and winning the next two. Forgot if this was mentioned or not when Password first spoke about it. ._.

Also REINFORCE <3<3<3
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Old 2010-04-15, 08:58   Link #284
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Does anyone know what Rein's combos are? I'm getting my face stomped by Material-S. T_T
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Old 2010-04-15, 09:30   Link #285
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Does anyone know what Rein's combos are? I'm getting my face stomped by Material-S. T_T
Spoiler for When you say Rein, I think Zwei~:
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Old 2010-04-16, 10:34   Link #286
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Okay, I managed to beat S by making liberal use of hold Square for Bloody Dagger and hold Circle for the exploding bind. I tried going against an AI Rein and found that she's supposed to have a big beam-thingy move as well, but I can't pull it off. I can't figure out how to use Diabolic Emission either X_X
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Okay, I managed to beat S by making liberal use of hold Square for Bloody Dagger and hold Circle for the exploding bind. I tried going against an AI Rein and found that she's supposed to have a big beam-thingy move as well, but I can't pull it off. I can't figure out how to use Diabolic Emission either X_X
Oh, the beam thing?

That's easy.

Just push Triangle.

HOWEVER!

If you hold it for a second, you'll get a sphere instead of a beam. You can get 2 spheres in the air...

Then push triangle and you get THREE beams to smash from a distance. and when I say "push triangle", I mean just tap it and you'll get your beam attacks off. All moves have a "tap button" and a "hold button" version at range.

Push circle to bind them.

Diabolic Emission?

Push the "L" shoulder button, get into close range, then push "L" shoulder button again to do it. (Works the same for everyone's "Uber".)
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The beam thing is just by tapping? I kept getting the sphere. O_o
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The beam thing is just by tapping? I kept getting the sphere. O_o
yep, just tapping. Holding makes the spheres.
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Old 2010-04-17, 16:51   Link #290
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Ah that move. When I realised the balls shot out the beams aswell I was setting up the 2 balls and the character in a triangle shape around the enemy.
They always seems to defend when I just fire a beam so getting 1 or two from behind does some good damage.

Shamal is quite hard to complete well enough to get the material piece. I think I started a second attempt but Pokemon tore me away from it.
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Old 2010-04-17, 21:57   Link #291
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General strategy with Shamal, especially if you want to get a get the material pieces.

Against close range fighters who can use a move to get in closer to you. Use Shamal's wind shield that she can some that basically blocks projectiles, however it does one other thing, it will damage opponents as they get close. Depending on how fast they were coming at you, it can damage them multiple times. It's very useful in that fashion. Most effective against Vita and Zafira.

Against long range fighters like Nanoha or Hayate. Here's the difficult yet not as hard method, though somewhat cheap a bit. You'll have to avoid getting hit from their long range attacks to get in closer to them. Once in close, keep a certain distance in the the close range combat circle and spam her attacks while staying in the circle. Even if they use the counter technique, they won't be able to attack immediately right back due to one thing. Each square button does two hits in one press. so even if they counter the first hit, the second will hit them leaving them open to the second hit.

Against multiple range characters like Fate or Rein. You'll have to known your enemy first and go from there. For example Rein, it's a question of moving and using the Wind Shield when necessary. But as before Rein's beam attack is alot quicker due to Rein using her arm instead of a device. The trick to it is being able to predict your opponent's moves letting your opponent tire themselves out from any spamming they do. Usually once they are in their 'Reload' state for their magic. Close in and try to damage them quickly in close range, but Rein is not recommended to use the same strategy that's used against long range characters due to her counter's ability.

More or less you'll have to play smarter as Shamal rather than being a spammer of techniques. Also, it's necessary to try and use her special twice per round. Her character's ability allows her to reload both her specials. So if you can, spam the special when you have the chance. But as I've said, you must play smarter with Shamal.

In terms of difficulty to master combat against anyone. Shamal is the hardest by definition due to her character's class.

Their battle classes(which I believe some of them are to be while others are official) as aerial mages

Nanoha - Center Guard
Fate - Guard Wing
Vita - Front Attacker
Signum - Front Attacker
Zafira - Guard Wing
Shamal - Full Back aka Support role
Chrono - Center Guard
Hayate - Full Back aka Bombardment role
Reinforce - (I would say) Center Guard due to her spell abilities.
The Materials roles are the same as their respective originals.

Center Guard - Mostly mid-range to long range characters who stay in place and use spells from a distance and can be able to handle themselves while staying in place. Weakness of this one is, that they usually can't handle close range combat well enough, this is more of a Midchilda mage battle type than Belka.

Guard Wing - Are combat mages able to switch between offense and defense strategies, especially in a team situation. Not much in terms of weaknesses besides possible bad defense against higher end spells. Though it is usually made up by speed. This is can be center mostly around Belka, however Midchilda style can be used depending.

Front Attacker - A lone front attacker, using only their own defenses and offenses to support themselves with no back up. They handle decimating the front lines and opening a path. Weakness is that they really are weak against long range types, though that is usually made up by various things. Mostly Belka and the mixture of Belka-Midchilda styles.

Full Back - This class is dependant on what they do. Supports handle spells such as agumentations, summons, healing, etc. Bombardments are similiar to supports, however their role deals with heavy damage bombardment spells that decimate multiple targets, however they stay far from the heavy combat to be fully useful.
Weakness: Alone they would be extremely vunerable and unable to do anything at close range. The second is that these types usually would require a team member depending on situation. Another would be spell incantions for higher end spells. However this is made up by their ability to help take out larger number of enemies when the right spell is used or to help other team members in combat to deal with the enemy faster.

All in all, it's balanced in a sense, but the thing is, one's gotta know how to handle each character and their usual habits. Especially in this game.

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For Shamal in close range (except against Zafira and Reinforce, since they have the longest counter-stance range other than Shamal), push square, then circle. You hit them twice, then knock them up with a tornado, letting you move in a little bit to keep them in close range, then rinse and repeat and... Boom.
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Old 2010-04-18, 11:21   Link #293
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Guh, sleep. Sleep is goooood. Corrections too. Corrections are also good.

On the post-fight chatter, <Version A> is the what appears if you won the second round with little or no damage, <Version B> is the what apears if you won the match with a decent amount of damage, and <Version C> is what appears if you won the match when your health is at critical.




FINAL STAGE

星光の殲滅者:
ここはどこです・・・・・・?
私は何故、ここにいる?
Starlight Destroyer:
Where am I......?
Why am I here?

なのは:
あなたはわたしで・・・・・・。
ここにいるのはきっと、
私と戦うため。
Nanoha:
You are me.......
You're here in order
to fight me.

星光の殲滅者:
わかりません・・・・・・。
何も、わかりません。
Starlight Destroyer:
I don't understand.......
I don't understand anything.

星光の殲滅者:
だけど、心は滾るのです。
眼前の敵を砕いて喰らえと、
胸の奥から声がします。
Starlight Destroyer:
However, my heart is seething.
A voice within my chest is commanding me to
crush and consume the enemy before my eyes.

星光の殲滅者:
安らかな闇と破壊の混沌を、
呼び覚ませと訴えている。
Starlight Destroyer:
It calls for me to bring about the
tranquil darkness and the chaos of destruction.

なのは:
ん・・・・・・。
で、私は
それをさせるわけにはいかないんだ。
Nanoha:
Yes.......
And I'm
not going to let you do that.

星光の殲滅者:
ならば、語る言葉はないはずです。
この身の魔導で、貴方を屠るのみ。
Starlight Destroyer:
Then let us not waste words.
You shall be annihilated by my own magic.

なのは:
いい子で止まってくれたら嬉しいけど・・・・・・
そういうわけにはいかないよね。
Nanoha:
While I'm glad that you remain a good girl......
I won't let you do such a thing.

なのは:
私なら、止まらないもの。
Nanoha:
I'm someone who won't give up.

星光の殲滅者:
そうですね。
わかります。
Starlight Destroyer:
Is that so.
Understood.

なのは:
(悲しい願いや・・・・・・つらい決断で、
力を振るうひとがいる。
それが罪や、別の悲しみを呼ぶことがある)
Nanoha:
(She's someone who wields power
with a sad wish...... and a painful resolve.
This may produce wrongdoings and another sadness.

なのは:
(話して、言葉で伝えあえたら、その方がいい。
わかってもらえたら、それが一番いい)
Nanoha:
(It'd be better if we can speak and communicate through words.
It'd be best if we can get our meanings across)

なのは:
だけど、心が伝わらないとき・・・・・・
わかり合えないとき。
Nanoha:
However, when we can't communicate our hearts......
When we can't understand each other;

なのは:
それでも伝え合って、
わかりあうために!
この力があるんだッッ!!!
Nanoha:
Even so, to speak to each other,
to understand one another!
We have this power!!!


-----

*During Battle*

[Starlight Destroyer uses Luciferion Breaker]
星光の殲滅者:
私は今、あなたを超えます・・・
Starlight Destroyer:
I now exceed you...

星光の殲滅者:
受けてください
Starlight Destroyer:
Please accept this

星光の殲滅者:
ルシフェリオンブレイカー!
Starlight Destroyer:
Luciferion Breaker!
[/Luciferion Breaker]


[Nanoha uses Starlight Breaker]
レイジングハート:
Raising Heart:
Excelion mode

なのは:
いくよ!、これが私の全力全開!!
Nanoha:
Here we go! This is my Maximum Power, Fully Released!!

レイジングハート:
Raising Heart:
Starlight Breaker

なのは:
スターライト・ブレイカー!!!
Nanoha:
Starlight Breaker!!!
[/Nanoha uses Starlight Breaker]



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*After Battle*

<Version A>
星光の殲滅者:
私の攻撃の・・・
すべてが通じない。
Starlight Destroyer:
My attacks...
All of them failed.

星光の殲滅者:
強いのですね、
あなたは。
Starlight Destroyer:
You are powerful,
aren't you.

なのは:
弱いよ・・・・・・。
だけど弱いから、
強くなりたいって思う。
Nanoha:
I'm weak.......
But because I'm weak,
I strive to be strong.
</Version A>

<Version B>
星光の殲滅者:
敗れましたか・・・・・・。
強いのですね、あなたは。
Starlight Destroyer:
I was defeated.......
You are powerful, aren't you.

なのは:
ううん。
あなただって。
Nanoha:
Not really.
You are too.
</Version B>

<Version C>
星光の殲滅者:
互いに互角・・・・・・。
ですが、あなたが上回った。
Starlight Destroyer:
We were even with each other.......
And yet, you surpassed me.

なのは:
ん・・・・・・。
今回は、ね。
Nanoha:
Yeah.......
This time.
</Version C>



星光の殲滅者:
ああ・・・・・・。
私は、消えるのですね・・・・・・。
Starlight Destroyer:
Aah.......
I'm dissipating.......

なのは:
うん・・・・・・。
ごめんね。
Nanoha:
Yeah.......
Sorry.

星光の殲滅者:
なに、強い戦士と戦って敗れたのです。
生まれた甲斐はありましたとも。
Starlight Destroyer:
What for? I battled against a powerful warrior and was defeated.
That was the reason why I was created.

なのは:
うん・・・・・・ありがとう。
Nanoha:
Yeah...... Thank you.

星光の殲滅者:
もし、
次に見える事があれば、
Starlight Destroyer:
Next time,
if I am to see you,

星光の殲滅者:
今度はきっと、
決して砕け得ぬ力をこの手にして、
あなたと戦いたいと思います。
Starlight Destroyer:
I hope to
do battle with you then,
with an unbreakable power in my hand.

なのは:
ん・・・・・・。
待ってる、とは言えないけど。
Nanoha:
Yeah.......
I'll wait for you, though we can't say when.

星光の殲滅者:
次に私と戦うまで、
あなたの道が、勝利に彩られますように。
Starlight Destroyer:
Until the next time we battle,
may your path be gilded with victory.

星光の殲滅者:
それでは・・・・・・さらばです。
Starlight Destroyer:
For now...... farewell.

(Starlight Destroyer fades)



なのは:
Nanoha:
・・・・・・・・・・・・。

なのは:
なんだか、
不思議な子だったな。
Nanoha:
She seemed like
a mysterious girl, didn't she.

エイミィ:
闇の欠片、
なのはちゃんの活躍で完全消滅!
状況推移の観測に移ります。
Amy:
The Dark Pieces have
completely vanished through Nanoha-chan's efforts!
Switching to observe any changes in status.

エイミィ:
艦長も、お疲れ様です。
Amy:
The Captain would like to give her thanks.

リンディ:
結局、私の出る幕
なかったわね?
Lindy:
In the end, I didn't
get involved, did I?

クロノ:
それはそれで、いい事です。
Chrono:
In a way, that's a good thing.



なのは:
戦わなくちゃならないのは、
戦う相手じゃない。
Nanoha:
I needed to fight,
they weren't opponents.

なのは:
相手の悲しみや心の闇。
戦いに駆り立てる理由そのもの。
Nanoha:
Their sadness and the darkness in their hearts,
those were the reasons that drove me to fight.

なのは:
悲しみを撃ち抜くのが、
わたしの魔法。
Nanoha:
I had to shoot out their sadness
with my magic.



なのは:
ユーノくんや魔法と会えて・・・・・・
レイジングハートと会えて、良かった。
Nanoha:
I'm glad I encountered Yuuno-kun and magic......
and that I met Raising Heart.

レイジングハート:
Raising Heart:
Don't mention it.
(どういたしまして)

レイジングハート:
I may also meet you. (sic)
(私も、あなたと会えて良かった)
Raising Heart:
I'm glad I met you too.

なのは:
あはは♪
ありがと、レイジングハート。
Nanoha:
Ahaha♪
Thank you, Raising Heart.

フェイト:
なのは~!
Fate:
Nanoha~!

なのは:
あ、フェイトちゃんだ。
ていうか、結局徹夜になっちゃったね。
Nanoha:
Ah, it's Fate-chan.
Well, we stayed up all night in the end.

レイジングハート:
Raising Heart:
It's not good for your health.
(それは健康に良くありませんね)

なのは:
帰って休もう。
おつかれさま、レイジングハート。
Nanoha:
Let's go home and rest.
Thank you very much, Raising Heart.

(fade out)

なのは:
こうして、この事件、
『闇の欠片事件』は無事に終了しました。
Nanoha:
And so, this incident,
the "Dark Piece Incident", ended safely.

なのは:
色々飛び回って、戦って、
自分の夢もあらためて・・・・・・
少しずつ、はっきりしてきました。
Nanoha:
Flying around and fighting a lot,
my dream had once again......
little by little, become clear.
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Old 2010-04-18, 11:22   Link #294
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And this ends Nanoha's story path. Corrections, etc, me go to sleep now.




EPILOGUE

Spoiler for Bath scene. NOT SAFE FOR WORK:


なのは:
あははー。
やっぱり、一緒にお風呂は楽しいねえー。
Nanoha:
Ahaha~.
It really is fun to take a bath together, ri~ght?

フェイト:
あー、なのは、
動かないで・・・洗いにくいよ。
Fate:
Aah, Nanoha,
don't move... washing isn't easy.

なのは:
えー、
ちょっとくすぐったいんだもん。
Nanoha:
Eeh,
that's kinda ticklish.

フェイト:
んーと・・・
じゃあ、こう?
Fate:
Umm...
So, how's that?

なのは:
あー、そうそう、
・・・いい感じ♪
Nanoha:
Aah, yes yes,
...that feels good.♪

フェイト:
うん。
Fate:
Good.

なのは:
ね、フェイトちゃん?
Nanoha:
Say, Fate-chan?

フェイト:
Fate:
・・・・・・?

なのは:
私ね、
これからもっともっと、強くなるよ。
Nanoha:
I'm going to
make myself stronger and stronger from now on.

フェイト:
じゃあ、私も負けてられないね。
Fate:
Well then, I'm also not going to lose.

なのは:
一緒に強くなっていこう、
どこまでだって。
Nanoha:
Let's get stronger together,
in every respect.

フェイト:
うん・・・・・・約束!
Fate:
Yeah...... it's a promise!
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Old 2010-04-20, 12:30   Link #295
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A note on Rein's attacks: Holding down Triangle creates the balls. What I've found is that if you don't have enough time to setup all 3 balls to fire at the same time, and if you're facing Vita or Zafira who'll close with you, the easiest way to win is the keep backing up and creating balls. They explode on impact, meaning that you can use them as magical mines.

Alternatively you can fire a beam at them by tapping Triangle, causing them to sympathetically detonate. *shrug*
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Old 2010-04-21, 15:53   Link #296
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Starlight Destroyer
キタ─wwヘ√レvv~(゚∀゚)─wwヘ√レvv~─!!

Okay, since she speaks all polite and stuff, I suggest we don't use contractions for future dialogue.... which is only three more matches. :B
Spoiler for THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING:
Spoiler for naked loli:
Yeah, I sometimes forget to not follow the original runes so closely when trying to make it smoother into English. Sit and wait a few months, go back and read it over, then go "wtf was I smoking" basically.
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Old 2010-04-22, 10:37   Link #297
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Query: Should I translate Fate's path next (since the complete Japanese script is available online) or should I go for Zafira's (Since LVD's working on his script)?

Also, I'm currently thinking of using "Duplicate" for all instances of 偽物/にせもの. It's as neutral-sounding as "Replica", while also being a word that's more likely to pop up in modern use. <<
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Common vocab in a show with pink beamlights of death.... ( ,_ノ` )y━・~~~~ Either way is fine with me~

And I'd go with Fate's. The three Aces should be done first imho.

That and by the time you finish her, I might be.... at least half-way done with Zafira's route? I procrastinate a lot and tend to do things all in one sitting. Should maybe continue with Zafira's when I come back later, hmm. .w.;
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Old 2010-04-26, 06:36   Link #299
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Just got the Signum DLC.

Checked the movie section to see what is going on.

Next official DLC is Vita.
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Old 2010-04-27, 01:31   Link #300
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Oi, don't forget to mention that Vita's stage is a swimming pool and people get to wear school swimsuits~ Also, leaving the Nanoha related DLC bits to you then.

>> 104mb
Wtf mate, lol. Okay, skipping Bind Breaker THAT BIKINI FFF

Theme:
Now that I know how to use themes, definitely using this. It has pretty much everyone in A's! Nanoha, Hayate, Fate, Reinforce, Shamal, Signum, Arf, Zafira in wolf mode, Yuuno in ferret mode and it even has Alisa and Suzuka holding hands! o:

Signum's Clock: Stage undoukai/sports festival

1) Jumps over hurdles three times before sliding.
Fail: Runs through, then cleaves the next hurdle in half, trips and rolls.

2) Start position, jog, dash then slide. Cute nod at the end.
Fail: Sprains ankle, but keeps going! Shocked look on face.

3) Takes out the sword and does a few jump attacks with it by a bonfire.
Fail: .... Swings her sword around.

4) Tamaire - the red and white balls into basket thing.
Fail: Misses a few balls and gets a sad face going on.

5) Cheerleading Signum = my mind just got blown.
Fail: Falls at the end.

6) Tamakorogashi - Signum pushing around a giant red ball, sees a flower up ahead, runs ahead of the ball and kicks it away as it gets closer to the flower.
Fail: Signum gets run over.

With Fate:
RACE. Signum dash ahead!
Fail: Fate wins. And she won a lot when I was trying to see Signum's reaction to winning. Fate's all happy either way, lol.

With Hayate:
Refer to Signum's #3. =w=;

Fate with Signum: .... Signum in the school uniform is weird, but anyway....
Fate's swinging Bardiche around and Signum's just sort of there and claps at the end.
Fail: Fate falls, but her giggle and bow are cute.

Hayate with Signum:
That thing where Signum brings out a tray with a cake and stuff.
Fail: Tripping moe.
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