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Old 2010-02-28, 15:11   Link #1021
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That clubs needs a new name.
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:15   Link #1022
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So i would say that the yoma who killed her folks and the org made priscilla evil.
In austria was a case where a man captured a little girl and tried to make her his wife:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch

(...) I think priscilla wasn't really interested in her true reasons. I think for priscilla reasons were irrelevant and nothing was more important than protecting humans from yoma. Something i can understand when i think about her past. The reason i hate priscilla was that despite she was overwhelmed by theresa, despite theresa spared and warned her and despite theresa had clare with her she killed her and became the thing she hated the most only for her desire to life.
But i think something like clare's revenge and if priscilla is good or evil is nothing which can be decided by logic. Everyone has his own opinion here.
I think that clare instead of priscilla would have given up and died as a human because there was nothing to win by fighting anymore and clare did never clinge to her life as priscilla did. Priscilla knew she was wrong and made a mistake and wanted to die but her fear of death was hindering her. That is for me one of the most important differences between those two.
I still wouldn't say they made her evil but they sure manipulate her in more than one ways. I mean you agree Prissy was fighting because she generally wanted to protect humans from yoma and I can't label that as evil.
As I said at the start of all this people view Prissy as evil because she killed Teresa who did nothing wrong. That's all good until you think put yourself in the place of Prissy and saw how things looke from her perspective. Most readers don't even try to do thin thus they call her evil.
The actual killing of Teresa could also be viewd in two ways and basically I don't see it as something intentional. I gave my reasons for that so if you missed them you can chkeck them out and consider them as well. Just to see the other side of things I would disagree that Prissy was clinging to life more than Clare. Yes at one point she was scared and didn't want to die. Most poeple wouldn't want to die so that's not something unnatural. After that she told Teresa to kill her before she becomes a monster. Here you see Prissy as using cowardly move in order to survive and I see her losing control and becoming that what she hates most thus making her character tragic rather and not evil.
During one of the times Clare went past her limit it was just in order to survive so that's more of a clingin to her life. (but then again I see Prissy's last wish as dying while she is still human and the rest was not her intention)
That's what makes Claymore so great....there are many sides to everything

@Ryus I love those smilies
And come one hell bunnies will purge the earth

And about a spoiler (completely made up) Maybe the destroyer realizes that the rods won't be enough to deal with Prissy and the rest so it starts doing something else thus Prissy is forcet do leave Clare temporary and attened to something more "urgent" That's the only way I can see Clare Deneve and Helen getting out of that (there are probably many other ways as well)
Also Yuma and Cythia were pretty much near Beth and as we saw Hellcats can shoot miny rods to infect someone near them. Maybe part of Beth survive by attaching itself to a new lifeform around since Prissy didn' eat her whole body as far as I remember (that's really random though)

@Gooral I agree with you that Jean was/is one of the greatest characters in Claymore and imo the only one that fits with the description of honarable so far. And her death was a really touching moment.
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:19   Link #1023
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That clubs needs a new name.
I second that! Makes her sound like a sex toy which wasn't who she was.
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:24   Link #1024
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I second that! Makes her sound like a sex toy which wasn't who she was.
It's offensive to the character.


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only one that fits with the description of honarable so far.
There's also Rigardo. He only followed Isley because of his own sense of honor.
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:32   Link #1025
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That clubs needs a new name.
Yes, definitely!

lol who named that club anywayz? romari?
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:34   Link #1026
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Yes, definitely!

lol who named that club anywayz? romari?
What that his name at the time? I'm starting to loose track.
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Old 2010-02-28, 15:40   Link #1027
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lol can't remember
Sidner or something, maybe
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Old 2010-02-28, 16:01   Link #1028
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After that she told Teresa to kill her before she becomes a monster. Here you see Prissy as using cowardly move in order to survive and I see her losing control and becoming that what she hates most thus making her character tragic rather and not evil.
I agree that priscilla is more tragic than evil but that makes her IMO still evil.
I always compare priscilla to gollum. Her split personality and her tragic somehow reminds me about him.

Spoiler for Gollum's Song:
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Old 2010-02-28, 16:06   Link #1029
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I just can't wait to see Priscilla patting Clare while saying "My Precious."
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Old 2010-02-28, 16:20   Link #1030
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I just can't wait to see Priscilla patting Clare while saying "My Precious."
Precious bites and wiggles
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Old 2010-02-28, 16:44   Link #1031
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It's already March the 1st, where is the new chapter? Or at least next spoiler? Something tells me that 101st will be more interesting than 100th.
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Old 2010-02-28, 17:04   Link #1032
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asfaik the spoiler seems to be pretty much confirmed as solid...chapter...dunno ...
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Old 2010-02-28, 17:21   Link #1033
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A bit unusal seeing just one spoiler around this time.
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Old 2010-02-28, 17:57   Link #1034
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asfaik the spoiler seems to be pretty much confirmed as solid...chapter...dunno ...
Why do you say that? a spoiler is a spoiler, we don't know if it's true or not. We've had times before, when a spoiler would come out from a "credible source" and it would be made-up too just hype people up.

Hopefully, the chapter comes out tonight or tomorrow.

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Old 2010-03-01, 03:26   Link #1035
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@irvinethearcher: well, that makes all of us evil in our own way.

@joe fh:agreed. i'd rather not hate anyone in the manga, even if they are utterly flawed.

@shiek927: yeah, i'm waiting for it...the anticipation is building up a lot...hope that doesn't affect mii tmorrow...

p.s wish me all the best guys, last exam of the term tomorrow!!!(man, i hate higher chinese)
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Old 2010-03-01, 03:33   Link #1036
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101 raw files have come out, not many actions in this chapter
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Old 2010-03-01, 03:38   Link #1037
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Well guys ch 101 is out -> need new thread and Fast

Ok let's remove the spoiler for ch 101 and just wait for the new thread

@gxy Good luck on that exam!
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